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1811woody 12-09-2023 12:52 PM

Rock Island County IL.
 
I'm surrounded by John Deere Corporate and their factories therefore that is the prominent lawn and garden equipment for this area, I'm wondering if anyone besides me in the area owns cub cadets?

finsruskw 12-09-2023 01:18 PM

I'm 100 miles NW of Davenport and have a building full!!

1811woody 12-09-2023 05:00 PM

I'm not sure but I think that would get you out of deere country?

Sergeant 12-10-2023 05:57 PM

My vacation home is In Henry County, 20 miles from Deere HQ. My neighbor's wife, though out there, is head of the Deere legal department. Here is my problem, though: I am not colorblind to one brand

Cub Cadet Original

Cub Cadet 60

Cub Cadet 70

Cub Cadet 106

Cub Cadet 1450

Cub Cadet 2182

Cub Cadet 3208

Cub Cadet XT3 GSX

Cub Cadet SX 54

Ingersoll 3016PS

John Deere Sabre 1542HS

John Deere 110 Round Fender

John Deere 112 Square Fender

John Deere 140H3

John Deere GX335

John Deere X748

John Deere 2025R TLB

Simplicity Wonderboy

Wheel Horse 416H

White GT2055

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Farmall450 12-11-2023 01:29 PM

You know, Rock Island IL wasn't just a Deere place: https://www.farm-equipment.com/artic...tor-production

Sergeant 12-11-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmall450 (Post 528908)
You know, Rock Island IL wasn't just a Deere place: https://www.farm-equipment.com/artic...tor-production

Correct But the HQ was back around here In Chicago But Most of the design staff were In Hinsdale, IL at the Farm as it was called. When I was Young and living in Glen Ellyn, There were at least 10 to 15 IH & IH Cub Cadet dealers around there and 3 Deere dealers( 1 was construction). . It was packed with IH dealers. Now, the nearest CASE IH is 46 miles from where I grew up. And the Nearest Lawn & Garden Deere dealer is 25 Miles from where I grew up. Where I live now, The Nearest CASE IH is still 46 miles away. The nearest Deere dealer Is 13 miles away. The Nearest full-line Cub dealer is 9 miles away. But in IH's Heyday It was hard to find dealers other Than IH & IH Cub Cadet in the 1960s and 1970s In the counties that bordered Cook County, as it was Cub Cadet land. But there are a few Cub Cadet dealers in the Quad City area. There is still a Cub Cadet dealer In Muscatine, Iowa even though it Deere country or at least there was a Cub dealer there in 2010. I always liked the Cub Dealer In West Liberty Iowa

But You are Lucky up in McHenry County. You have a Deere and Case IH dealer In the same Town of Harvard. At least since Johnson Bought AA Anderson's and brought back CASE IH

So Harvard Has JD, Case IH, Cub Cadet and Kubota. It is a 20-Minute ride from 176 In Marego to four brands.:ThumbsUp:

Farmall450 12-16-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant (Post 528916)
Correct But the HQ was back around here In Chicago But Most of the design staff were In Hinsdale, IL at the Farm as it was called. When I was Young and living in Glen Ellyn, There were at least 10 to 15 IH & IH Cub Cadet dealers around there and 3 Deere dealers( 1 was construction). . It was packed with IH dealers. Now, the nearest CASE IH is 46 miles from where I grew up. And the Nearest Lawn & Garden Deere dealer is 25 Miles from where I grew up. Where I live now, The Nearest CASE IH is still 46 miles away. The nearest Deere dealer Is 13 miles away. The Nearest full-line Cub dealer is 9 miles away. But in IH's Heyday It was hard to find dealers other Than IH & IH Cub Cadet in the 1960s and 1970s In the counties that bordered Cook County, as it was Cub Cadet land. But there are a few Cub Cadet dealers in the Quad City area. There is still a Cub Cadet dealer In Muscatine, Iowa even though it Deere country or at least there was a Cub dealer there in 2010. I always liked the Cub Dealer In West Liberty Iowa

But You are Lucky up in McHenry County. You have a Deere and Case IH dealer In the same Town of Harvard. At least since Johnson Bought AA Anderson's and brought back CASE IH

So Harvard Has JD, Case IH, Cub Cadet and Kubota. It is a 20-Minute ride from 176 In Marego to four brands.:ThumbsUp:

Yeah, Harvard is a lucky town, they get a lot of options despite their relatively small size. I think as the urban sprawl continued the dealers closer to the city probably had to either move out further or adapt to selling primarily lawn and garden.

I heard the AHW Deere in Elburn was closed shortly after they bought it from Buck Bros...similarly, RF Houtz/Ralph Helm was in that same small town, and also went under (that location).

Sergeant 12-16-2023 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmall450 (Post 528988)
Yeah, Harvard is a lucky town, they get a lot of options despite their relatively small size. I think as the urban sprawl continued the dealers closer to the city probably had to either move out further or adapt to selling primarily lawn and garden.

I heard the AHW Deere in Elburn was closed shortly after they bought it from Buck Bros...similarly, RF Houtz/Ralph Helm was in that same small town, and also went under (that location).

The owner of the AHW Elburn Property wanted AHW to Pay him for 20 years, Basically a retirement Plan, He wouldn't take a one-time payment for the dealership Property Like a normal real estate sale. So they just chose to move their People to Hampshire and Somonauk. It had nothing to do with the location; the previous JD dealer who owned the Property was very, very Greedy. He Basically wanted the sale Price Paid for rent each Year for 20 years.

Ralph Helm Jr, when He Bought RF Houtz, moved its Location out Into the Business district on the west side of Town. He had a driver who killed someone In an accident and was sued. Ralph Jr is Not the sole owner Of Ralph Helm anymore. He has Two Partners. He couldn't afford to Keep Elburn and Crystal Lake open because of the lawsuit, which again had nothing to do with the size of the Town either.

Buck Bros never Owned the Elburn Location. The did try to Buy it before AHW bought it. But again Elthers wanted to Much Money for it . Now it sites there as a Vacant Property . Buck also tried to Buy the Rockford dealership But he wanted them to Buy the ACE Hardware Next door to the Dealership as well

Buck Bros chose to Merge with AHW

Buck bros Locations Prior to Merger with AHW
Harvard
Hampshire
Libertyville
Wauconda

Rob Houtz sold in 2015 because he wanted to retire and with the earlier death of his son In Law Skip Nobody In the Family wanted to take over the dealership

Rob is still there In Elburn at the west end of South Street, where He runs his Cub Bone Yard. He's getting a 3208 I purchased from him ready for delivery next week for me. It had a Hydraulic Leak, and he's installing a 190-207-100 3-point hitch on the Tractor as well. That's the second used Tractor I have bought from him in the Last 3 years.:ThumbsUp:

SS5150 12-16-2023 10:21 PM

Helm closed Crystal Lake didn't they? I thought I heard they were gone.

Has Buck Bros sold out, or are they associated with AHW?

Sergeant 12-17-2023 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SS5150 (Post 528993)
Helm closed Crystal Lake didn't they? I thought I heard they were gone.

Has Buck Bros sold out, or are they associated with AHW?

Merged is what I was told as the owners of Buck(Ambrose & His brother) are still there as Partners under the AHW banner.

Yes Helm closed his other Two Location do to the Lawsuit and took On more Partners with the remaining store in Elgin:ThumbsUp:

Farmall450 12-18-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant (Post 528991)
The owner of the AHW Elburn Property wanted AHW to Pay him for 20 years, Basically a retirement Plan, He wouldn't take a one-time payment for the dealership Property Like a normal real estate sale. So they just chose to move their People to Hampshire and Somonauk. It had nothing to do with the location; the previous JD dealer who owned the Property was very, very Greedy. He Basically wanted the sale Price Paid for rent each Year for 20 years.

Ralph Helm Jr, when He Bought RF Houtz, moved its Location out Into the Business district on the west side of Town. He had a driver who killed someone In an accident and was sued. Ralph Jr is Not the sole owner Of Ralph Helm anymore. He has Two Partners. He couldn't afford to Keep Elburn and Crystal Lake open because of the lawsuit, which again had nothing to do with the size of the Town either.

Buck Bros never Owned the Elburn Location. The did try to Buy it before AHW bought it. But again Elthers wanted to Much Money for it . Now it sites there as a Vacant Property . Buck also tried to Buy the Rockford dealership But he wanted them to Buy the ACE Hardware Next door to the Dealership as well

Buck Bros chose to Merge with AHW

Buck bros Locations Prior to Merger with AHW
Harvard
Hampshire
Libertyville
Wauconda

Rob Houtz sold in 2015 because he wanted to retire and with the earlier death of his son In Law Skip Nobody In the Family wanted to take over the dealership

Rob is still there In Elburn at the west end of South Street, where He runs his Cub Bone Yard. He's getting a 3208 I purchased from him ready for delivery next week for me. It had a Hydraulic Leak, and he's installing a 190-207-100 3-point hitch on the Tractor as well. That's the second used Tractor I have bought from him in the Last 3 years.:ThumbsUp:

Rob's a good guy, I've had some peanuts and beer there and gotten parts from him.

That's too bad that the landowner forced their hand. I guess I'm surprised Buck was renting all along, and AHW must have decided they weren't going to fall for that.

Farmall450 12-18-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SS5150 (Post 528993)
Helm closed Crystal Lake didn't they? I thought I heard they were gone.

Has Buck Bros sold out, or are they associated with AHW?

Yes, quite a few years ago. It's too bad, but another member listed the reasons that I had also heard. Odd to me, seems more locations would generate more income to overcome money shortages.

Sergeant 12-18-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmall450 (Post 529003)
Rob's a good guy, I've had some peanuts and beer there and gotten parts from him.

That's too bad that the landowner forced their hand. I guess I'm surprised Buck was renting all along, and AHW must have decided they weren't going to fall for that.

Buck Bros Never controlled or had anything to do with the Elburn John Deere dealership!!!

The Only dealership property Buck Bros ever rented was the Harvard Location first from John Rebhorn and then a new Owner which AHW still rents the Location from

Buck Bros owned the following Locations that there dealerships sat On
Hampshire at Rt 20 & Rt47(main Office)
Libertyville 1080 E Park ave Route 176
Waconda 29626 N US Hwy 12
Buck Bros rented the dealership Property at 1810 N Division In Harvard

AHW Bought the dealership In Elburn from Elers or Ethlers(can't remember the spelling of there Name) except they rented the Property that the dealership sat On. Elers or Ethlers still owns the Property today. It was Elers or Ethlers that wanted that 20 year payoff

Buck Bros merged with AHW and AHW got 4 dealerships from the merger

Sergeant 12-18-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmall450 (Post 529004)
Yes, quite a few years ago. It's too bad, but another member listed the reasons that I had also heard. Odd to me, seems more locations would generate more income to overcome money shortages.

I believe Helm lost the lawsuit and the need to close down their other dealerships and take on other partners to stay a Float He had just Purchased the Elburn Location In early 2015, and the accident was In late summer 2017. Sometime after, I bought a Cub Cadet XT2 GX54 D from their Elburn location. I went there Next spring (2018), and it was gone. Crystal Lake was still open at that time. But closed sometime after 2018. I think he rented Both the Crystal Lake and Elburn dealership locations.


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