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Tagcab7 11-18-2021 06:46 PM

102 Carb issue
 
I like the looks of that for sure. I didn’t even end up putting the stack on. Ran into carburetor trouble so now I’m either going to have to get a new replacement or find a used #26. There’s a small engine repair shop near by and the guy says he might have one but I’m having a hard time catching him there. Dang it!

ol'George 11-19-2021 09:10 AM

I also like the exhaust system, it appears quiet with the compact muffler and the stack is your personal touch.
All that said,
when you run it a bit you will notice the induced vibration in it.
In my humble opinion if it were mine, I would come up with a tasteful brace attached to the engine in the vicinity of the "up" stack.
With some thought, you can make it inconspicuous, yet functional.
I would hate to see it fatigue due to induced vibration.

What is wrong with the carb? they are a simple design and most all times
when cleaned and returned to functionality, they perform as intended, surpassing aftermarket replacements by a long shot.
If it is a Carter, they don't make junk, they been around since early 1900's
:beerchug:

Tagcab7 11-19-2021 03:56 PM

102 Carb issue
 
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It’s pretty embarrassing but I managed to ruin it. I was pretty upset about it because my goal is to take good care of the machine and I even told the PO I would. It was a hard lesson learned. I was attempting to do a carburetor kit and had it all apart except for one piece. I had only done cleaning on 2 cycle carbs before so I did a lot of research and watched some videos but I knew this would be a learning experience. I stripped out the brass screw head on the main jet and I wish I would have stopped there but I didn’t. I went for an easy out and thought I was doing OK but I ended up breaking the stem that the jet srews into. I think it’s called the emulsion tube.

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RustyShackleford 11-19-2021 06:14 PM

A bit hard to tell, but to my eyes that looks more like a Chinese repop carb and not an original Carter 26. It's not hard to find an old Carter 26 on fleabay, though you will likely have to clean it thoroughly and put a rebuild kit in it.

ol'George 11-19-2021 07:37 PM

Ha,LOL
BTDT, we all have aw shit moments sometimes, not the end of the world.
Next time:
A shorty screwdriver custom ground to fit snugly into the jet hole slot, lightly put in a vice so it cannot slip out of the slot, then turned with an adjustable end wrench ( crescent wrench) usually does the trick of unscrewing the jet without damaging the jet slot.
Search the net and/or put a "wanted ad" here on OCC for an oem carb as others mentioned. :beerchug:
FWIW: I have had ones that refused to come out because of corrosion.

jbrewer 11-20-2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RustyShackleford (Post 513912)
A bit hard to tell, but to my eyes that looks more like a Chinese repop carb and not an original Carter 26. It's not hard to find an old Carter 26 on fleabay, though you will likely have to clean it thoroughly and put a rebuild kit in it.




I agree. That looks way too clean to be 45 yrs old.

Tagcab7 11-20-2021 08:50 PM

Thanks guys, if I can’t get ahold of the repair guy early this week to look for a carb I’m just going to order one. I guess it doesn’t matter now but the PO said that it was the same carburetor that was on it when he bought it in 1970. I did clean the heck out of everything I could before my failed disassembly attempt. Regardless, I’m definitely ready to get back to a running and working 102. If I get a used Carter and run into the same problem would I be alright to leave the main jet alone and soak it in some cleaner for a day or two?

Gary C 11-22-2021 12:06 PM

Sometimes warming it up some will help to get it " unstuck" the jet is brass , so the expansion rate is different than the aluminum it' threaded into. And a sharp tap with a steel punch on top may jar it loose.

finsruskw 11-22-2021 12:51 PM

Best to just leave that part intact and don't mess with it at all.
I never do and all the carbs I have installed kits in I have never had an issue w/leaving it in.

ol'George 11-22-2021 07:18 PM

While I fully agree with the theory if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Sometimes that combination jet-emulsion tube does get plugged with various
"stuff" and needs cleaning, as the holes are very small, has been my findings.
And I do get that "pucker" factor when removing them.
Every carb has different situations.
It is a crap shoot for sure. :bigthink:

Tagcab7 11-24-2021 07:49 AM

Thanks for the advice, I’m soaking it all in. Anybody ever try an ultrasonic cleaner? I don’t think I’d buy one just to do a carb or two, but I’ve heard good things about them.

ironman 11-25-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tagcab7 (Post 514003)
Thanks for the advice, I’m soaking it all in. Anybody ever try an ultrasonic cleaner? I don’t think I’d buy one just to do a carb or two, but I’ve heard good things about them.

I got one a few years ago specifically to do these carbs.
They are expensive so the one I got was just big enough to hold small carbs. It cost about 35 bucks.
To say I was disappointed with the results of its cleaning would be an understatement. It sucked!.
Then to boot, it just quit working about the 4th time I used it. It was a Chinese product of course.
My advice is, keep your money.

jbrewer 11-25-2021 09:23 AM

Agree with Ironman.


I got one to clean gun parts. I was underwhelmed and gave it away.

Tagcab7 11-28-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrewer (Post 514018)
Agree with Ironman.


I got one to clean gun parts. I was underwhelmed and gave it away.

Good to know. I won’t waste the time or money. I ended up finding a #30 carburetor. From what I read here it will work in place of a #26 so I put it on and had it running today.

Tagcab7 12-27-2021 08:39 PM

Thought I’d do an update. After messing with the #30 carb for awhile I ended up ordering a new one. It ran decent with the #30 but I couldn’t quite get it dialed in. Could’ve been me or maybe some junk still in it since I didn’t take it completely down to clean it. Ran in to the same issue with removing the main jet and decided to leave it alone this time. The choke operating backwards was pretty annoying too. I ordered one from isavetractors. I had a $30 gift card so it ended up costing $30 after the card. Put the snow blade on today and ran it around some. Thank for all the help.

finsruskw 12-28-2021 09:19 AM

Tag, you still have the #30?
For sale by any chance?
You didn't screw it up I hope.

R Bedell 12-28-2021 09:40 AM

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It ran decent with the #30 but I couldn’t quite get it dialed in.
You most likely won't, it is too big.

Tagcab7 12-28-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 514730)
Tag, you still have the #30?
For sale by any chance?
You didn't screw it up I hope.

Yep, still have it. It had some issues when I got it that I should tell you about. The main jet backed out easily until it got a ways out but then stopped. I think some messed up threads in the emulsion tube. At that point I just screwed it back in and let it be. The choke plate has a mounting screw broken off in it so it’s held on by one screw. Lastly the bolt that holds the bowl on is finicky to get started. If your still interested in it I can send you some pictures. The throttle shaft is in good shape IMO.

darkminion_17 12-28-2021 08:55 PM

A 102 should have a # 26 carb not a 30, prolly why you can't tune it in.

Tagcab7 12-30-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 514745)
A 102 should have a # 26 carb not a 30, prolly why you can't tune it in.

I thought I had read somewhere that they would interchange. Apparently not though. Another lesson learned.

R Bedell 12-30-2021 09:09 AM

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I thought I had read somewhere that they would interchange
BAD..... information. :angry: :bash2:


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