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IHCubCadet147 03-28-2020 10:32 AM

How would you fix this?
 
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The hood brace on my 125 broke. I know the right way to fix it would be to weld it, but I don’t want to burn the paint off the outside of the hood. Any other ideas what I can do? I thought about an epoxy like JB Weld, but I don’t think it would hold up too long.

cooperino 03-28-2020 01:10 PM

I own a spot welder. Some of the better rental places will rent them. If you can rent one it would leave the smallest amount of damage.

finsruskw 03-28-2020 02:30 PM

Make a new one from a thicker gage mat'l
I have done it on several Cubs
Use a spot weld cutter to remove what's left of the old one from the inside.

darkminion_17 03-28-2020 06:28 PM

Flex seal the sucker on, yeeeeee haaaaaa.

CADplans 03-28-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IHCubCadet147 (Post 494108)
I thought about an epoxy like JB Weld, but I don’t think it would hold up too long.

The JB Weld fix will work,, ya just gotta do it right,,

Bend a piece of thick siding or other sheetmetal to an "L" shape,, some piece of metal close to the thickness of the hood.
If you can not find that, a thin piece of angle steel, with legs that are at least one inch can be substituted.

you must have at least 4 square inches of area that will contact EACH part.

Bend it until you have a good fit,, apply the JB Weld to the at least 8 square inches of contact area.

I would apply it to all 4 surfaces, prior to assembly, to insure no spot remains "dry"

After curing, that lap joint fix will be easily as strong as the previous tack welds.

Large lap joints do very well at resisting vibration,,

I have fixed many things that normally are considered "weld only" using the large surface area trick.

IHCubCadet147 03-28-2020 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 494118)
I own a spot welder. Some of the better rental places will rent them. If you can rent one it would leave the smallest amount of damage.

We have one, but that would be the last resort.
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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 494143)
The JB Weld fix will work,, ya just gotta do it right,,

Bend a piece of thick siding or other sheetmetal to an "L" shape,, some piece of metal close to the thickness of the hood.
If you can not find that, a thin piece of angle steel, with legs that are at least one inch can be substituted.

you must have at least 4 square inches of area that will contact EACH part.

Bend it until you have a good fit,, apply the JB Weld to the at least 8 square inches of contact area.

I would apply it to all 4 surfaces, prior to assembly, to insure no spot remains "dry"

After curing, that lap joint fix will be easily as strong as the previous tack welds.

Large lap joints do very well at resisting vibration,,

I have fixed many things that normally are considered "weld only" using the large surface area trick.

Great idea, I’m going to try it.

Riley Henderson 03-28-2020 08:49 PM

Keep us informed what works I have a 122 with the same problem curious to see the results:bigthink:
Best of luck on the repair.

IHCubCadet147 03-28-2020 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley Henderson (Post 494155)
Keep us informed what works I have a 122 with the same problem curious to see the results:bigthink:
Best of luck on the repair.

Will do. :beerchug:

jbrewer 03-29-2020 09:12 AM

I think that piece has completely fallen off my 122. :-)

john hall 03-29-2020 09:38 AM

Its missing on my Dad's 100. Been thinking about bending a new one and epoxying it in place. We had to run some cosmetic grooves in some large stainless sheet metal strips at work. These were glued/epoxied in place in the entry of a hospital, some were even overhead. There are some rather high tech "glues" on the market these days. Maybe somewhere like McMaster carries such.

finsruskw 03-29-2020 11:39 AM

On second look at the picture, it appears someone has already "fixed" it at some point.

IHCubCadet147 03-29-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 494180)
On second look at the picture, it appears someone has already "fixed" it at some point.

I was thinking the same thing, the welds don’t look factory. Both sides are like that.

IHCubCadet147 03-31-2020 08:57 PM

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I glued it tonight. I’ll take the clamps off and paint it tomorrow.

finsruskw 04-01-2020 07:51 AM

I hope it works out for you but I have my doubts.

cooperino 04-01-2020 08:49 AM

Seems like a decent repair. Not sure of longevity of it.
I was under the assumption that you wanted a repair that could be done avoiding paint work. After this repair, you said your going to paint it. My question is, if you planned on painting anyway, why not just use a welding method to permanently repair? Someone mentioned thicker gauge steel. Paired with that and welding it in then painting i think would have been a truly permanent solution.

Your time, money, tractor of course. Just curious.

IHCubCadet147 04-01-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 494343)
I hope it works out for you but I have my doubts.

We’ll see. The glue I used is pretty good, it’s meant for holding body panels on cars.
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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 494345)
Seems like a decent repair. Not sure of longevity of it.
I was under the assumption that you wanted a repair that could be done avoiding paint work. After this repair, you said your going to paint it. My question is, if you planned on painting anyway, why not just use a welding method to permanently repair? Someone mentioned thicker gauge steel. Paired with that and welding it in then painting i think would have been a truly permanent solution.

Your time, money, tractor of course. Just curious.

I am just going to touch up that spot on the inside. I didn’t want to paint the outside of the hood.

cubs-n-bxrs 04-01-2020 09:19 AM

I wouldn't give a glue job a prayers chance. I don't think the glue will hold up to the vibration the hood is exposed to. Spot welding or tack welding is the only real fix.:bigthink:

ironman 04-01-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cubs-n-bxrs (Post 494349)
I wouldn't give a glue job a prayers chance. I don't think the glue will hold up to the vibration the hood is exposed to. Spot welding or tack welding is the only real fix.:bigthink:

Go visit a body shop, you'll be in for a surprise.

cooperino 04-01-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IHCubCadet147 (Post 494348)
We’ll see. The glue I used is pretty good, it’s meant for holding body panels on cars.

I am just going to touch up that spot on the inside. I didn’t want to paint the outside of the hood.

Ah... understood

guido 04-01-2020 11:21 AM

Looks good.

I have used Pliobond in the past with some success on other projects. Not sure it would hold up to the Kohler shake though. My "olde dad" told me they used it when patching the fuselage on their B-17's.

ironman 04-01-2020 11:51 AM

Here, read about a ten year old boy's science class experiment on welding vs. adhesive, and this was almost 13 years ago. Methinks the glue is even better now days.

http://autobodystore.com/forum/showt...ighlight=PANEL

IHCubCadet147 04-02-2020 10:44 PM

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It’s done, now we’ll see how long it holds up.


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