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DeltaCub 11-06-2019 08:14 PM

Yep! it's another QuietLine
 
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Vintage 1979 1450 complete with all of the fun to fix QuietLine issues. The deal included a QA 42 with and a 44A deck. What am I going to do with it...good question:Huh:...I rarely part out this series tractor....it has potential to be a great tractor again.

darkminion_17 11-06-2019 08:20 PM

That is a nice find, was it a local find or an OTR one?

DeltaCub 11-06-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 490179)
That is a nice find, was it a local find or an OTR one?

A friend of mine about two hours away told me I needed this tractor.

CubDieselFan 11-06-2019 09:46 PM

Long live the Queen. Looking forward to seeing you save it.

cubby102 11-07-2019 02:52 AM

Wow, that's nicer than my main 1450! Nice grab

R Bedell 11-07-2019 07:05 AM

Good catch Beth. I have one also, one of my favorite models.

:IH Trusted Hand:

Billy-O 11-07-2019 12:41 PM

Thanks to you, any tractor you get has the potential to be a great tractor again! Nice find!

mortten 11-07-2019 09:18 PM

Nice pickup Beth.

Oak 11-07-2019 10:09 PM

Looks great Beth. Don't part that sucker, save it!:biggrin2:

cooperino 11-08-2019 07:32 AM

That's a beauty Beth.. Great find and best of luck with it. Still searching for a 1450 in my neck of the woods that is as nIce as that

jbrewer 11-08-2019 07:39 PM

Making Quiet Lines Great Again!

IHCubCadet147 11-08-2019 08:19 PM

Nice looking tractor!

CubDieselFan 06-05-2020 03:32 PM

Any progress on the tractor?

DeltaCub 03-01-2021 05:44 PM

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An update on the 1450. Since I went back into the workforce (OTR truck driver), I have very little time for my toys :Sad:. It has all the usual Quietline issues plus a few extra. The engine valves were not the best so they will be replaced too. Items to be repaired; new engine mounts, new driveline parts, replace muffler and air duct/box around muffler and weld several cracked places on the chassis and hood. The oil pan was badly worn from bad mounts...a new one will be installed.

athomas 03-01-2021 08:22 PM

:beerchug:

darkminion_17 03-02-2021 06:44 PM

Looks like they got there use out of that one, do you have a better frame in your stash?

DeltaCub 07-23-2021 05:56 PM

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An update...it has only been four months. I dunno...a glacier makes more progress moving along than I do working on these tractors! The frame was cracked in several places. I don't have any donor frames right now so welding it was the next best option. The right front spindle is very sloppy in the axle casting. I do have extra spindles and wide frame axles available.....but...was thinking of installing a "cyclops" style axle. I have two styles available. This is an experiment so I need input as to what will be the best choice. This tractor will be used to mow, till and remove snow. As always PICS!

DeltaCub 07-24-2021 10:57 AM

Should I install a "cyclops" style axle? :bigthink:

darkminion_17 07-24-2021 11:08 AM

Depends on whatcha using it for as it will raise the front up. I see one may be from the early style cyclops that came on a 1541 and such. That one would not raise the front.

DeltaCub 07-24-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 511304)
Depends on whatcha using it for as it will raise the front up. I see one may be from the early style cyclops that came on a 1541 and such. That one would not raise the front.

I plan on using it to mow, till and remove snow. Cumulative wear on the deck hanger and mating round bar at mid chassis causes the deck pitch to be quite low. I try to set the deck pitch higher in the front like Simplicity to improve the cut quality. The "cyclops" axle(s) will result in a wider stance and an improved turning radius but which one will give me the height I need without creating other problems? Others have done this swap...just looking for input. :beerchug:

darkminion_17 07-24-2021 04:59 PM

Looks like the axle towards the front of the frame, you can compare it with the old one that you took off it.

finsruskw 07-24-2021 05:39 PM

Slop in the axle:

Is it wear on the bolt through the sleeve, wear on the sleeve through the axle itself or a combination of both?

When the bolt through the sleeve is tight it should clamp the knuckle onto the sleeve and both should turn freely as an assembly in the axle.

DeltaCub 12-06-2021 11:10 PM

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An overdue update...The block has been bored 0.010 over, valves seats cut and guides cleaned and checked. Cylinder head has been bead blasted and resurfaced. The adjusters on the tappets have been machined too.

DeltaCub 12-06-2021 11:18 PM

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I never trust old governor assemblies! They are not cheap...but prove to be an excellent value when properly rebuilding one of these engines. Piston and rings were fitted at the machine shop.
Crankshaft has been ground 0.020 undersize and bearing surfaces polished.

DeltaCub 12-06-2021 11:28 PM

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Thoroughly cleaning parts is paramount! Bearings and camshaft rod soaking in diesel fuel. The block is pressure washed before and after the teardown. Obviously it cleaned with solvent after the machining process. I apply oil to block and internal components to keep from rusting.
Bought an after market muffler assembly. This thing is heavy and will require additional bracing....."muffler crutch".

BTW, I still have not decided which axle to install. The axle center has some wear but it is tolerable. The spindle tubes are worn resulting in sloppy, floppy spindles. I have wide frame axles and parts available but would like to try the "Cyclops" style for tighter turning.

Darrell 12-07-2021 08:41 PM

Where did you get the muffler ?? Curious about how loud it is.

DeltaCub 12-07-2021 10:51 PM

I bought the muffler from Cub Cadet Specialties. This is the first aftermarket muffler I have found for a Quiet line series and have no idea how effective it is. Rolling the dice....

West Valley G 12-08-2021 06:46 PM

Looks great, seeing all those beautiful parts gives me the last nudge I
need to finally get going on my winter Cub project.

Ken

rsshallop 12-17-2021 05:02 PM

Really nice work and so cool to follow.

bkw3614 02-12-2022 01:21 PM

Quietlines are great tractors!

Farmall450 02-12-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaCub (Post 514255)
I bought the muffler from Cub Cadet Specialties. This is the first aftermarket muffler I have found for a Quiet line series and have no idea how effective it is. Rolling the dice....

Looking forward to the final product.

I've only rebuilt one cub, my 1282, due to sentimental value. Sadly it's a lot more economical to get a parts engine. In the case of my 1711, I had nothing into it, and went with a Command (that paid for itself).

Certainly better to keep some things original :beerchug:

DeltaCub 08-18-2023 02:31 PM

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I had some vacation time off from work. So, it was time to get this 1450 project finished. As I mentioned before, this tractor had all of the Quiet Line afflictions including a tired engine. The engine was the easiest part of this project. You can see pics about the engine in previous pics. I had to replace the air duct housing along with an aftermarket muffler and a "muffler crutch". The muffler is heavier than the OEM but mounts easily and is very quiet! Since this was a late model 1450, I cut off the excess exhaust pipe. ( Does not protrude through the grill)
I installed new rag joints and hardware but broke my own rule...I did not install new couplers and drive shaft. I started the tractor....engine runs great but tractor had severe vibration! :angry: So, dang it all I have to change out the worn parts. Fortunately, I had a new shaft and couplers on hand...changed them out. Much smoother....for a Quiet Line. Finished assembling the unit and installed the mower deck. The unit will be a worker and not show piece. It needs a bath and it will get it after I mow some grass with it.

DeltaCub 08-18-2023 02:35 PM

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I also installed a new field coil since the old one beyond repair.



The completed tractor!

bllwnkl 08-19-2023 10:33 PM

That's so cool! I love seeing these tractors still going strong.
My 1250 needs the cork gasket replaced. Can it be done without splitting the tractor or am I just dreaming?

DeltaCub 08-20-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bllwnkl (Post 527436)
That's so cool! I love seeing these tractors still going strong.
My 1250 needs the cork gasket replaced. Can it be done without splitting the tractor or am I just dreaming?

Hi Randy. Yes you can replace the cork gasket without splitting the tractor. However, the drive line should be removed to gain access...you may open a Pandora's box by taking an old Quiet Line drive line apart. Remember that little pump is heavy. BTW, I did change the cork gasket on the 1450 without splitting the tractor.

bllwnkl 08-20-2023 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaCub (Post 527441)
Hi Randy. Yes you can replace the cork gasket without splitting the tractor. However, the drive line should be removed to gain access...you may open a Pandora's box by taking an old Quiet Line drive line apart. Remember that little pump is heavy. BTW, I did change the cork gasket on the 1450 without splitting the tractor.

Thanks, I'm going to try it. It's getting bad.

Graflex45 08-21-2023 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaCub (Post 527441)
Hi Randy. Yes you can replace the cork gasket without splitting the tractor. However, the drive line should be removed to gain access...you may open a Pandora's box by taking an old Quiet Line drive line apart. Remember that little pump is heavy. BTW, I did change the cork gasket on the 1450 without splitting the tractor.

I need to replace the cork gasket on my 1450 too. I assumed its obvious you need to remove the driveshaft to remove the pump without splitting the tractor? there nowhere to pull the pump off otherwise.
I have replacement flex couplers that I'm going to replace at the same time and If I can get the motor mount mod welded on a spare pair of mount brackets i bought and borrow an engine lift to upgrade that and the the oil pan. The motor mount are sagging and I figured its best to "fix" the whole drivetrain and not run with it partially redone.

DeltaCub 08-21-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Graflex45 (Post 527454)
I need to replace the cork gasket on my 1450 too. I assumed its obvious you need to remove the driveshaft to remove the pump without splitting the tractor? there nowhere to pull the pump off otherwise.
I have replacement flex couplers that I'm going to replace at the same time and If I can get the motor mount mod welded on a spare pair of mount brackets i bought and borrow an engine lift to upgrade that and the the oil pan. The motor mount are sagging and I figured its best to "fix" the whole drivetrain and not run with it partially redone.

Make sure you get a new drive shaft and the couplings for each end of the drive shaft. I would also strongly recommend replacing the swivel bearing on both ends too, otherwise, a nasty vibration may occur.

Graflex45 08-21-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaCub (Post 527455)
Make sure you get a new drive shaft and the couplings for each end of the drive shaft. I would also strongly recommend replacing the swivel bearing on both ends too, otherwise, a nasty vibration may occur.

what is the "swivel bearing"? I'm looking at the parts diagram and don't see the normal driveshaft in the assemblies, just the clutch dissconnect option.

DeltaCub 08-21-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Graflex45 (Post 527459)
what is the "swivel bearing"? I'm looking at the parts diagram and don't see the normal driveshaft in the assemblies, just the clutch dissconnect option.

https://ccspecialties.org/pics/bushingball.jpg

There is one on the engine side where the front flex disc mounts and one on the hydro input shaft coupler.

https://ccspecialties.org/pics/flangelarge.jpg

https://ccspecialties.org/pics/919-3027coupling.jpg


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