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olds45512 08-27-2018 07:03 PM

Cub Cadet 169 restoration.
 
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I'm restoring a 169 for a friend and you guys can tag along on my adventure. Here's a short walk around video i made just to show its condition, since making this video it has been determined that i will be rebuilding the engine. My friend is also a new member here, his screen name is RLSpearman so if you see him posting be sure to give him a warm welcome.

https://youtu.be/PnsN1Czolb4

cooperino 08-27-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464882)
I'm restoring a 169 for a friend and you guys can tag along on my adventure. Here's a short walk around video i made just to show its condition, since making this video it has been determined that i will be rebuilding the engine. My friend is also a new member here, his screen name is RLSpearman so if you see him posting be sure to give him a warm welcome.

https://youtu.be/PnsN1Czolb4

Cool project Tim! Patiently waiting to see more

Dirty Steve 08-27-2018 08:08 PM

Go Tim Go!!!:beerchug:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Jeff in Pa 08-27-2018 09:18 PM

Looks like a solid candidate for paint and upgrades. :beerchug:

Terry C 08-27-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff in Pa (Post 464897)
Looks like a solid candidate for paint and upgrades. :beerchug:

X2! , like make it a dual stick! :beerchug:

jaynjeep 08-28-2018 12:57 AM

Doesn't look too bad Tim... I'm sure you will do it right!!:beerchug: I have another one when you get through with that one I'll send it right over!:biggrin2:

R Bedell 08-28-2018 04:42 AM

Nice project. Keep us in the loop with your progress.

:IH Trusted Hand:

Oak 08-28-2018 05:38 AM

Are you using Majic rattle cans?:biggrin2:

This will be awesome. Thanks for sharing.
:popcorn:

twoton 08-28-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 464923)
Are you using Majic rattle cans?......

I heard that's a good paint. And you don't need primer.
:ThumbsUp:
:popcorn:

mickb72 08-28-2018 07:15 AM

Dag nabbit, manual lift.:BB&YS:

olds45512 08-28-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 464916)
Good, a "restoration" thread.:beerchug: Glad to follow along on one of these. Especially if you're doing it Tim. That way we'll know it won't be the typical pig with lipstick.:biggrin2: You going full on nut and "bolt", complete disassembly?
Is this going through your shop, or a side project?:bigthink: I know, so many questions...:biggrin2:

It will be coming completely apart and it will get new bolts when going back together, this will be a working tractor when it's done. This is a side project.

J-Mech 08-28-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464926)
It will be coming completely apart and it will get new bolts when going back together, this will be a working tractor when it's done. This is a side project.

If it's going to be a worker, I'd put hydraulic lift on it for sure. Easy while it is apart.

olds45512 08-28-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 464932)
If it's going to be a worker, I'd put hydraulic lift on it for sure. Easy while it is apart.

I think he wants to keep it the way it was when his dad had it.

jaynjeep 08-28-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 464923)
Are you using Majic rattle cans?:biggrin2:

:popcorn:

I'm quite sure Tim's Majic paint job will turn out awesome!!:bigthink::biggrin2::biggrin2:

finsruskw 08-28-2018 10:39 AM

New bolts???
May I ask why?
A "restoration" with non authentic/original WP bolts???

sorner 08-28-2018 10:58 AM

Doesn't look too bad, just hit it with some Krylon and be done with it. :biggrin2:

</sarcasm>

olds45512 08-28-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 464947)
New bolts???
May I ask why?
A "restoration" with non authentic/original WP bolts???

Why do we have to go down this road every time I do a tractor? You wanna know why I use new bolt?

1. Half the bolts have already been replaced and are all miss matched.

2. New bolts look better in my opinion and they help break up all the yellow and white

3. I like to work my tractors and this tractor will be worked and it's a pita having to touch up bolts anytime you need to work on it.

4. My time is valuable and I'm not gonna waste it messing around with old rusty bolts.

I've been to alot of shows and received alot of compliments on my tractor's and not once has anybody said anything negative about the new bolts. It's a garden tractor, this isn't a concourse restoration on a 57 Chevy

Chad126 08-28-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464951)
Why do we have to go down this road every time I do a tractor? You wanna know why I use new bolt?

1. Half the bolts have already been replaced and are all miss matched.

2. New bolts look better in my opinion and they help break up all the yellow and white

3. I like to work my tractors and this tractor will be worked and it's a pita having to touch up bolts anytime you need to work on it.

4. My time is valuable and I'm not gonna waste it messing around with old rusty bolts.

I've been to alot of shows and received alot of compliments on my tractor's and not once has anybody said anything negative about the new bolts. It's a garden tractor, this isn't a concourse restoration on a 57 Chevy

:biggrin2:

I'd also like to ask:

Why you are not putting the original paint back on the tractor?


All jokes aside, why WOULDN'T you replace the bolts? Especially ones that hold a load. When I tore down my 126, I had several in which the heads snapped off because it had sat in the rain for the past 20 years. What do you do then? I understand that folks want to "restore" to the best of their ability, but Tim stated this is going to be a working tractor. I wouldn't put it back together with the old hardware, and I would consider it work done in vain to do so, especially since this one is going to be working and not sitting in a garage under a sheet.

But I guess we all have our opinions. Looking forward to seeing this thread progress.

olds45512 08-28-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad126 (Post 464954)
:biggrin2:

I'd also like to ask:

Why you are not putting the original paint back on the tractor?

I will also not be using the original spark plug.:biggrin2:

Chad126 08-28-2018 11:47 AM

Well now you're just getting lazy on us...

Alvy 08-28-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464956)
I will also not be using the original spark plug.:biggrin2:

What about the gas you’ll be using? I am expecting you to find regular leaded gas. I’ll let you borrow my time machine to go get some if you would like.

olds45512 08-28-2018 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvy (Post 464960)
What about the gas you’ll be using? I am expecting you to find regular leaded gas. I’ll let you borrow my time machine to go get some if you would like.

If you have a time machine I can think of much better things to use it for besides going to get gas.:biggrin2:

DieselDoctor 08-28-2018 12:25 PM

Regardless of all the banter, looks like a fun project Tim. Keep us posted on the progress.

jaynjeep 08-28-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464961)
If you have a time machine I can think of much better things to use it for besides going to get gas.:biggrin2:

Me too!!:biggrin2::biggrin2:

darkminion_17 08-28-2018 12:41 PM

Tim,
It looks like a nice complete tractor to do a restoration on, not too many parts to look for.
As for the hardware, use whatever you want to get it back together.

Terry C 08-28-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 464951)
Why do we have to go down this road every time I do a tractor? You wanna know why I use new bolt?

1. Half the bolts have already been replaced and are all miss matched.

2. New bolts look better in my opinion and they help break up all the yellow and white

3. I like to work my tractors and this tractor will be worked and it's a pita having to touch up bolts anytime you need to work on it.

4. My time is valuable and I'm not gonna waste it messing around with old rusty bolts.

I've been to alot of shows and received alot of compliments on my tractor's and not once has anybody said anything negative about the new bolts. It's a garden tractor, this isn't a concourse restoration on a 57 Chevy

I believe this happens cause restoration means different things to different people. We have had that discussion too.

finsruskw 08-28-2018 01:20 PM

No problem, I just asked is all!!
Everyone has a 57 Chevy, at least last time I was at a car show.

:biggrin2:

olds45512 08-28-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry C (Post 464973)
I believe this happens cause restoration means different things to different people. We have had that discussion too.

I guess I should call it a resto-mod then.

Oak 08-28-2018 01:43 PM

Tim, if there are enough bolts worth keeping I will buy them from you. I would like to see if they can be cleaned up and re-plated.

IHCubCadet147 08-28-2018 08:45 PM

Nice project. I'm sure it will look better than new when it's done.

darkminion_17 08-28-2018 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 464979)
Tim, if there are enough bolts worth keeping I will buy them from you. I would like to see if they can be cleaned up and re-plated.

I have 15 lbs of IH and WP Let me know.

SLS327 08-29-2018 01:31 AM

Hopefully everything goes well for you Tim. Looking forward to the progress and updates.

finsruskw 08-29-2018 08:35 AM

Oak, Toss 'em into a jug of vinegar for a day or so, then give them the wire wheel treatment and they will look like new again.\I store them in a peanut butter jar with a little WW-40 to slosh them around in every so often.

They keep just fine 'til you are ready to pick one out and use it.

I keep 2 containers, one for IH bolts and one for the w/p bolts.

These are one of the 1st things I notice on a so called "restored" cub that's on display, that and how much "free play" or lack of it is in the steering assy, with the owners permission of course!!

Saw a 169 at Portland last week, "restored"
the front axle pin was about to fall out and the owner was in the process of switching the seat out for one that had arm rests commenting that they were worth $125 alone and then wanted to play the "whattle-ya-give-me for it" game.

J-Mech 08-29-2018 09:09 AM

Honestly I'm with Tim. I think the guys who get hung up on the IH/WP bolt heads are getting a bit ridiculous. It's a bolt. As long as there is a bolt in place, it's irrelevant what is stamped on the head. I don't think a replaced fastener makes it less "restored" than one that has reworked original bolts. My time is worth more than the time it would take to blast and clean up a bunch of 3/8" bolts that you need a magnifying glass to see what's stamped on them anyway.

Next time I take out an IH or WP bolt, I'm keeping it. When I get a box full, I'm putting them up for sale for you boys to fight over. I'll use your money to buy 3 times the bolts I sold.

sorner 08-29-2018 09:11 AM

I'll throw a rock at this hornets nest... what oil are you using in the hydro? :biggrin2:

olds45512 08-29-2018 10:22 AM

I would like for the debate to end here before this thread gets locked. Everybody is entitled to an opinion and they've been voiced so now it's time to STFU and move on.

Chad126 08-29-2018 11:59 AM

So to change the subject...

Do you have a timeline on this bad boy? Just curious to know how soon you are planning to get her all fixed up. Again, looking forward to seeing it progress. I know you said it was going to be a working model. Snow Removal or a Plow Horse?

olds45512 08-29-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad126 (Post 465047)
So to change the subject...

Do you have a timeline on this bad boy? Just curious to know how soon you are planning to get her all fixed up. Again, looking forward to seeing it progress. I know you said it was going to be a working model. Snow Removal or a Plow Horse?

No real timeline, hoping to have it done in the next month and a half so it can go to a plow day in October but don't want to rush it. He plans to go to plow days and use it in his garden at home.

farmall fred 08-29-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 465045)
I would like for the debate to end here before this thread gets locked. Everybody is entitled to an opinion and they've been voiced so now it's time to STFU and move on.

Tim, thanks for the :OffTopic: comment. I do not know why some have to keep bringing up the comments about bolts, oil etc and then get into a big debate and finally arguments when they do not pertain to the topic at hand. I for one am very interested on your progress on this machine and want to see it finished. Please keep up the updates.

jaynjeep 08-29-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by farmall fred (Post 465051)
Tim, thanks for the :OffTopic: comment. I do not know why some have to keep bringing up the comments about bolts, oil etc and then get into a big debate and finally arguments when they do not pertain to the topic at hand. I for one am very interested on your progress on this machine and want to see it finished. Please keep up the updates.

Tom... I fully agree! to each his own.. everybody likes something different!

I am interested in seeing the 169 project proceed with whatever type bolts Tim wants and likes!:beerchug:
:IH Trusted Hand:


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