SGT tillers
 

Wanted some opinions on how the tillers perform? Ive never ran one or seen one in person. I was looking into a rear pto and tiller for the 2284, so i thought i would ask.

rear pto's are hard to find and not cheap , you might be better off finding one with it's own engine , I assume you have the 3pt. hitch already...

Yea i have the 3 point already. I know their hard to find but curious how well it works with the right tiller.

It works just like any PTO driven tiller. Ever ran a tractor with a tiller? Works just like that.

They work fine but with a 48'' tiller on the back you need a 100 pounds up front to keep the nose down
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Filling the front tires help also... and they are a beast... Get the weight bracket from Extreme and hang some weights on it....

We have a 6 ft king cutter we use now on the farmall 504. I just thought it would be nice to have something a little more compact for the garden. We also have 540 48 inch john deere but that wont work on the cub due to the hook up plus it will spin to fast, is this correct or could the pto be slowed down with different pullys?

Tillers can be found easy enough.... Search for PTO's on ebay or trashed 982's 1872,
2072, 1914, 1912's... they are out there.... Found a 1914 with 3pt and PTO for 100 bucks at an auction.... heard the comments that "he paid way too much for that".... DA didn't know what the 3pt brought.... Typical Bailing Wire crowd....

Well this is interesting it looks like this had a pto before. For some reason the stud for the tightener was removed and the hole on the plate covered up.

As far as I know, all SGT's came with the cover plate for the PTO. Why someone welded the hole shut for it is beyond understanding.

Before you delve into this, have you priced a PTO set up? The tillers usually bring less.

The rear PTO plate is part of thr PTO kit didn't come on SGT unless it had pto on from factory.I have had a lot of supers and all have had non pto plates on them.

Huh. I've got a 982 that has the plate. Never had a PTO that I can tell. Plate looks to have original paint on it, and no indication that anything has ever been on the splines, or the pillow block bearing was ever on it. I've seen other SGT's the same way. Maybe removed by the dealer before the sale to reduce the price? :bigthink:

I’d like to know where that dealer was, and where the box of potentially removed rear pto parts got to:biggrin2: :biggrin2:

You could get rear pto with a SGT but it had to have the cat 0 hitch.

You could just get the cat 0 hitch and not the pto.

Or you could get the bagger adapter kit as seen here and none of the above.
http://www.partstree.com/parts/cub-c...apter-package/

I'm thinking someone removed the rear pto from your machine by the looks of the rear cover plate.

Thats what im thinking also oak. If you look close on the pic of the rear plate it has a circle mark from the pully i would assume that rubbed for some reason.

Front weight
 

With a pto 48" tiller on the back you will need more than 100 lbs of weight on the front. The John Deere model 48 tiller (48" 3 pt, 2000 rpm rear pto) weighs about 450 lbs and from the pictures I have seen the IH equivalent is as beefy. Just to move my 48 I have 4, 42 lb suitcase weights on the front of my 332. The manual states when tilling to have 8 weights on the front. The 332 with model 48 is easier to get in places than the 244 with it's 54" tiller. But, I prefer to use the 244 if possible. The long wheel base makes for a flatter planting surface, The 332 w/tiller can make a slightly undulating surface if there are any cross row imperfections.

Bill

You mean one of these?

What was the ih 48 tiller offered with, it looks like 982, 18 2072 and late 80 model supers? Were they good tillers, are parts hard to find, whats a fair price on one of these and a pto kit?

There was more than one 48" tiller. Two at least that I recall. Maybe 3... The cool thing is, the John Deer, Snapper and I think Craftsman had one too, that were all cat 0 3pt, 2000rpm tillers. Any will work.

Tillers average $450-$600. Obviously, the John Deere guys think the yellow one is worth more. I've seen a few go for $150 because someone didn't know what they had, or it was an auction.

PTO'S average $600 and up. Rarely under $600. Sometimes you get lucky and find a tractor with one cheaper.

All in all get ready to spend a grand or more, and look for a year to find both.

Reproduction rear PTO..... That's on my list of parts to reproduce also. Too bad you couldn't get some city SGT owner with no use for a rear PTO (or SGT for that matter) to sell you one off theirs. Lots of SGT owners never use theirs.

Tiller performance
 

I see no difference in the quality of the seed bed whether I use my John Deere 48 tiller behind my 332 versus the 54" tiller I use with my IH 244 compact. Both produce a nice well churned soil base. Because of their weight the 48" tillers do not bounce like some of the smaller tillers do. Just make sure you are using enough tractor when you put it in the ground. The 48 is the only PTO attachment I have that will challenge the 332 in tough going. Lots of black smoke!

Bill

That's the one Lew.

I have a 442 rear pto tiller on my 982, I don't have any weight on the front, and although its light, it creates no issues while tilling. It will lift the front wheels while transporting, but only if I goose the throttle. It's a beast and is very smooth. In comparison to the tiller I had on a JD 212, it's head and shoulders above in the final soil product along with comfort while tilling.

You can search 'Wow! That was FAST!' for the thread I posted when I got my tiller, PTO, & 3 point.