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Marko141 12-22-2017 10:57 PM

First Cub Cadet
 
Finally decided to pull the trigger on a tractor. A 127 that was waiting to be found. Found it local and it had everything I was looking for and the price was right. Came with a model 2 tiller and all the hook ups and belts, A snow blower, wheel weights, chains, and new tires. Minor surface rust, it rolls over but wouldn't start. Maybe from the cold temp and sitting for a while but that can be looked at later. Guy said the engine was a crate motor, identical swap with only 36 hours on it when he acquired it last year. Needs a starter/generator rebuilt but my buddy does that for a living so no issues there. How much of the story he told me is true only god knows, but I pulled the trigger for only $500.

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:03 PM

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Some photos from tonight. Dark and starting to snow, but it gives you an idea.

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:04 PM

It would also seem I am missing a tensioner of some sort on my blower and The shield to cover the gears on it. Hope they are easy to find.

mrmiller 12-22-2017 11:20 PM

Is that the one from Swain?

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:25 PM

Yes sir it is! I chose it mainly because I found the snow blower someone was giving away :biggrin2: So may as well say it came as part of the deal :beerchug:

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:26 PM

You live close to Swain?

mrmiller 12-22-2017 11:27 PM

Nice pickup!:beerchug: I'm roughly an hour from Swain.

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:29 PM

I live in Dansville about 30 min away, short drive. He has other attachments there but I only needed the tiller and tractor. Still had a 122 and deck also. More of a parts tractor.

Marko141 12-22-2017 11:33 PM

I am hoping I can put in a stronger battery, change the oil, clean the tank out, maybe change the plug and it fires up. That snow blower will be nice with all the snow we are going to get. And the seat was in prime condition, not sure if its original but it had no cracks or rips.

J-Mech 12-22-2017 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441697)
It would also seem I am missing a tensioner of some sort on my blower and The shield to cover the gears on it. Hope they are easy to find.

I don't see anything missing.


Looks like you got a good deal.

Gompers 12-23-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 441711)
I don't see anything missing.


Looks like you got a good deal.

Looks like it’s missing the cover that goes over the chain and sprocket/tensioner on the backside of the snowthrower. P/n 548-193-R1 for a 36 or 548-194-R1 for a 42.

That’s a good deal! Congrats!

J-Mech 12-23-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gompers (Post 441715)
Looks like it’s missing the cover that goes over the chain and sprocket/tensioner on the backside of the snowthrower. P/n 548-193-R1 for a 36 or 548-194-R1 for a 42.

That’s a good deal! Congrats!

An unnecessary part..... works fine without it.
You posted the same part number twice, you know....

Gompers 12-23-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 441717)
An unnecessary part..... works fine without it.
You posted the same part number twice, you know....

There are a lot of unnecessary parts. Hoods. Grilles. Fenders. Shields. Some people like to have all of them on their equipment.

And yes, you’re right, it will work fine without it.

548-193-R1 is called out differently then 548-194-R1 in the CPE-2. I don’t know what the actual difference is between them, but they have different part numbers.

Shouldn’t be too hard to find one, but I’d imagine that’s one of the more often lost parts on most snowthrowers.

J-Mech 12-23-2017 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gompers (Post 441722)
There are a lot of unnecessary parts. Hoods. Grilles. Fenders. Shields. Some people like to have all of them on their equipment.

And yes, you’re right, it will work fine without it.

548-193-R1 is called out differently then 548-194-R1 in the CPE-2. I don’t know what the actual difference is between them, but they have different part numbers.

Shouldn’t be too hard to find one, but I’d imagine that’s one of the more often lost parts on most snowthrowers.

I really thought that I read the same part number twice in your original post. Did you fix it, or did I just read it wrong? :bigthink:

I don't consider a hood, grille or fenders unnecessary. They serve a purpose and change the look of the machine if missing. I also understand that a shield has a purpose. But, I also know where not to stick my fingers when around equipment. So, some things are just in the way. Also, it is just a small piece of bent metal. If you are handy at all with metal, one could be made pretty quick. It would take longer for the paint to dry than to make it. I have a CPE-2 parts book. I promise, if they have different part numbers, they are different.


When I stated that nothing appears to be missing, I was referring more to the fact the OP said it was missing some king of tensioner. I don't see anything missing pertinent to the operation of the machine. I have no idea what he thinks is missing. But the pics aren't very good of the blower either. Maybe something is missing and I just can't see it.

johncub7172 12-23-2017 12:47 AM

Fantastic purchase!!!!! Amen!

I'm sure in time, the 127 is going to be operating flawlessly!!! I did forget to mention a 127 being a great tiller/snow blower combo garden tractor:biggrin2:

Gompers 12-23-2017 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 441727)
I really thought that I read the same part number twice in your original post. Did you fix it, or did I just read it wrong? :bigthink:

I don't consider a hood, grille or fenders unnecessary. They serve a purpose and change the look of the machine if missing. I also understand that a shield has a purpose. But, I also know where not to stick my fingers when around equipment. So, some things are just in the way. Also, it is just a small piece of bent metal. If you are handy at all with metal, one could be made pretty quick. It would take longer for the paint to dry than to make it. I have a CPE-2 parts book. I promise, if they have different part numbers, they are different.


When I stated that nothing appears to be missing, I was referring more to the fact the OP said it was missing some king of tensioner. I don't see anything missing pertinent to the operation of the machine. I have no idea what he thinks is missing.

Nope didn’t touch it. Must just have read it wrong. :beerchug:

I was just replying to him saying that it was missing a cover and tensioner. I can’t see a clear picture of the tensioner, but I’d assume it’s there, and it’s definitely missing the cover. :beerchug:

OP The only tension adjustment on those blowers is the two bolts that go through the mounting block for the drive sprocket. It’s just s chain around the auger, and one around that sprocket. Make yourself familiar with the technical library here and you’ll find pretty much everything you’ll ever need to know about these things.

J-Mech 12-23-2017 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gompers (Post 441730)
Nope didn’t touch it. Must just have read it wrong. :beerchug:

My bad then. :beerchug:


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Originally Posted by Gompers (Post 441730)
OP The only tension adjustment on those blowers is the two bolts that go through the mounting block for the drive sprocket. It’s just s chain around the auger, and one around that sprocket. Make yourself familiar with the technical library here and you’ll find pretty much everything you’ll ever need to know about these things.

No, there are two. One is a tensioner on the gearbox for the drive belt. Screw type and lever that move the gearbox up and down to tension the belt.

The the second one is where you stated.

Rmowl 12-23-2017 06:08 AM

Good deal, the headlights and complete grill is a plus. Hopefully it has a spring assist, likely does with those two heavy implements.

Marko141 12-23-2017 06:29 AM

The guy I got it from said he used the tiller the past spring for his garden which is how long it had been since it was last moved and last run. Should have everything I need for the tiller. He even had the original belts that came on it.

Marko141 12-23-2017 06:31 AM

I do I have some serious plans for the 127 though. I think for now I will just get it tuned up and everything working. Then after the Spring when I use the tiller I may take it somewhat apart and paint it all up.

ironman 12-23-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441710)
I am hoping I can put in a stronger battery, change the oil, clean the tank out, maybe change the plug and it fires up. That snow blower will be nice with all the snow we are going to get. And the seat was in prime condition, not sure if its original but it had no cracks or rips.

Be aware that in cold weather (and I see you are in New York) these hydros (which your 127 is) tend to turn over more slowly when starting than they do in warm weather or when already warmed up. This is because the hydro oil thickens up due to the cold and since the drive shaft is turning the hydro while you are cranking to start, there is a lot more drag on the starter/generator. If you are not in tip/top tune-up condition starting could be a problem.

Cures can be a stronger battery, keeping the tractor in a heated location, or providing a heat source such as a heat lamp or heater to warm the hydro differential case up for a period before trying to start it. Personally, I have a battery charger with starting booster option which I use. Once everything is warmed up starting is easy.

Marko141 12-23-2017 08:47 AM

First will be the oil change, what oil is preferred in this engine? I'll grab some at work today and get everything worked out tomorrow.

Rescue11 12-23-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441738)
I do I have some serious plans for the 127 though. I think for now I will just get it tuned up and everything working. Then after the Spring when I use the tiller I may take it somewhat apart and paint it all up.

Does that include a hydraulic lift of some type??


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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 441740)
Be aware that in cold weather (and I see you are in New York) these hydros (which your 127 is) tend to turn over more slowly when starting than they do in warm weather or when already warmed up. This is because the hydro oil thickens up due to the cold and since the drive shaft is turning the hydro while you are cranking to start, there is a lot more drag on the starter/generator. If you are not in tip/top tune-up condition starting could be a problem.

Cures can be a stronger battery, keeping the tractor in a heated location, or providing a heat source such as a heat lamp or heater to warm the hydro differential case up for a period before trying to start it. Personally, I have a battery charger with starting booster option which I use. Once everything is warmed up starting is easy.

Good points made, the heated facility is always the best. But a tarp, two magnetic oil heaters and a battery maintainer would be a good alternative if you need one

athomas 12-23-2017 09:47 AM

Looks like a good deal with all the extras ! Good battery,tune-up and proper timing setting ( static method best ) clean starter /gen . (new brushes and brgs if needed ) and starting in any weather shouldn't give you any problems, good luck !

Marko141 12-23-2017 10:33 AM

I believe it has the hydro lift.

J-Mech 12-23-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441755)
I believe it has the hydro lift.

No, it doesnt. It has manual lift.

DoubleO7 12-23-2017 10:49 AM

Good choice!!

Gompers 12-23-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 441756)
No, it doesnt. It has manual lift.

Yeah from the pictures it has a manual. There was an optional electric lift on these, but I don’t think there was a hydraulic option on the 1x6/1x7 models.

Hope there’s a spring assist on it for the tiller and blower. Those are pretty heavy to lift otherwise.

Gompers 12-23-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441746)
First will be the oil change, what oil is preferred in this engine? I'll grab some at work today and get everything worked out tomorrow.

The book specifies 10w30 in cold weather and straight SAE 30 in warm weather.

Opinions on this are all over the place, but I use IH low ash 30wt in the summer and a good synthetic 10w30 in the winter. Most important thing, imo, is maintaining the proper level and regular changes.

Marko141 12-23-2017 01:17 PM

Well enough chat about what it may or may not have. It had the attachments and rolled. I will look over what it does and doesn't have when I have time when the sun is up. At 10:30 at night it's hard to see the small things.

Marko141 12-23-2017 01:19 PM

I did test the lights and the front lights worked great

Marko141 12-24-2017 11:39 AM

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Well I change the oil, replaced the spark plug, cleaned out the carb and put some new fuel into it and it started right up! Drove it around the yard a bit and it's a nice machine.

ironman 12-24-2017 01:08 PM

Looks like you've got an electric lift. That's a nice option. Does it function ok?

Marko141 12-24-2017 01:11 PM

Well here's the weird part about this. That switch that looks like it's for a lift, well you pull it up and it's the lights. The switch to the left that you think would be lights does nothing. So I'm gonna say someone has switch it out.,

Gompers 12-24-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441972)
Well here's the weird part about this. That switch that looks like it's for a lift, well you pull it up and it's the lights. The switch to the left that you think would be lights does nothing. So I'm gonna say someone has switch it out.,

Original light switch would have been on the lower left side of the pedestal, kinda by the PTO lever I believe.

Marko141 12-24-2017 02:53 PM

It's weird, but I was just happy to start it up and drive it around. I will look farther into it another day.

john hall 12-24-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko141 (Post 441991)
I was just happy to start it up and drive it around..

And that is a GOOD thing!:beerchug:

DoubleO7 12-24-2017 06:51 PM

Hopefully it has the vinyl covered wires wiring harness.
And not the cotton covered wires.

Marko141 12-24-2017 07:15 PM

Well in late spring/summer it will get a good clean up. Paint, wires, and other visuals.

Marko141 12-24-2017 07:16 PM

Best place to buy some replacement belts for a decent price?


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