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IliketheRedcubs 12-17-2017 01:49 PM

982 with a 450 blower
 
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Is the 954-0341 belt correct for the 982 with the 450 snowblower? Pic attached is the blower on the front of the tractor... :beerchug:

R Bedell 12-17-2017 03:02 PM

According to the Parts Manual, the correct belt for a 190-450 Snowblower on a 982 would be 954-0340.

IliketheRedcubs 12-17-2017 09:08 PM

Way to short! I put a 90” belt on that I had laying around and it fit. That’s why I’m thinking a 0341 belt is the right belt. :bigthink:

R Bedell 12-17-2017 09:37 PM

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Way too short!
Then there is something abnormal about your situation.

sbauerz28 12-18-2017 05:27 AM

The correct belt for a 450 blower on a super is a 954-0341 at 89" long. The 954-0340 belt is for non-super applications. That belt is 84" long.

R Bedell 12-18-2017 05:40 AM

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The correct belt for a 450 blower on a super is a 954-0341 at 89" long. The 954-0340 belt is for non-super applications. That belt is 84" long.
OK....where was that information found....???:bigthink:

R Bedell 12-18-2017 06:07 AM

:Work:

Done some more research. The 190-450 snowblower needs Mounting Kit 190-448 to be mounted on a SGT (ie: 982, etc).

Within that kit, the 754-0341 -----> 954-0341 belt is used. Thus that would be the correct belt.

Here is another Cub Cadet error in their Parts Manuals or Web Site. There was NO reference to a different belt being used in SGT applications. I found this doing a "backward cross reference".

Thus, "sbauerz28" was correct and I was wrong.

Sorry for the incorrect information....:Sorry:

sbauerz28 12-18-2017 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 441233)
OK....where was that information found....???:bigthink:

The belt is part of the blower extension brackets sold to convert the blower to work on a super. It's part of the Cub 448 Snow Thrower lift kit accessory.

Oak 12-18-2017 08:21 AM

I'm thinking you need a cab on that 982 to blow snow.:biggrin2:

R Bedell 12-18-2017 08:24 AM

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It's part of the Cub 448 Snow Thrower lift kit accessory.
Thanks. I did find that out after some digging. :bigeyes:

IliketheRedcubs 12-18-2017 09:36 AM

Wow! :bigeyes::blush: Didn't know I could stir up so much trouble!! :biggrin2: If you look at the pic I included you'll see the pulley with the "keeper" pins (keeps the belt on the pulley) is so out of place that the belt would have rubbed on the pins. I was also wrong when I got the belt looking at the Cub Cadet 450 snowblower booklet that I downloaded from here. Found out out just how wrong the book was! Oh and by the way... the the kit isn't really necessary (the super lift links). I installed them and the tractor wouldn't lift the blower off the ground even with the lift arm fully extended... So I had to shorten the lift links all the way up to what the length of the Garden tractor links were! The only thing I can really see useful is the carriage bracket extension. Anyway, I appreciate the help and confirmation! :beerchug:

Hey Todd! I've got most of the cab mounted on the 982... just need a few more things added and it will be done! PM, email or text me if you're talking about what I think you are! :biggrin2:

sbauerz28 12-18-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IliketheRedcubs (Post 441252)
Wow! :bigeyes::blush: Didn't know I could stir up so much trouble!! :biggrin2: If you look at the pic I included you'll see the pulley with the "keeper" pins (keeps the belt on the pulley) is so out of place that the belt would have rubbed on the pins. I was also wrong when I got the belt looking at the Cub Cadet 450 snowblower booklet that I downloaded from here. Found out out just how wrong the book was! Oh and by the way... the the kit isn't really necessary (the super lift links). I installed them and the tractor wouldn't lift the blower off the ground even with the lift arm fully extended... So I had to shorten the lift links all the way up to what the length of the Garden tractor links were! The only thing I can really see useful is the carriage bracket extension. Anyway, I appreciate the help and confirmation! :beerchug:

Do you have your upper links in the lower holes as shown? I've seen people add the extensions to use the blower on a Super and forget to also lower the upper links.

IliketheRedcubs 12-18-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sbauerz28 (Post 441254)
Do you have your upper links in the lower holes as shown? I've seen people add the extensions to use the blower on a Super and forget to also lower the upper links.

Are we talking the pivot link? If so, then yes! The PO had the pivot links where they attach to the blower in the upper holes for some reason but I moved everything back as suggested in the mounting instructions...

IliketheRedcubs 12-18-2017 09:50 PM

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So next problem with this setup... I put a sims cab on, the 982. The shoot crank isn’t long enough. Now what?!?!

J-Mech 12-18-2017 10:48 PM

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Darrel,

This pulley looks to be a 4" pulley. They should both be 6" pulleys. If it is smaller than the other, that will cause belt issues. Need to be the same.

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On the chute rod, you can do 2 things:
1.) Make a longer one
2.) Convert the chute control to electric.

IliketheRedcubs 12-19-2017 03:50 PM

Yes, it’s actually 5” but is supposed to be 6”. So far it hasn’t effected the belt.

So, there isn’t a kit or any suggestions for the length of my crank handle? Right now I’m thinking of cutting it off and welding about a 3” piece in so it will extend into the cab far enough. The support rod may get extended as well but I’m not to excited about trying to extend the hollow pipe!

J-Mech 12-19-2017 07:23 PM

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There is no kit, as a Sims cab was additional equipment and not IH made.

You say the smaller pulley doesn't affect the belt, but it does, and the tensioner isn't as tight as it should be because the pulley is smaller, therefore the tensioner spring is taking up the slack, so less tension on the belt.

I had to make a different rod when I went to a cab on my 1811. I just took the whole assembly off, then removed the control rod at the u-joint. I made a new bracket to hold the lower half of the rod, and ran a new control rod into the cab. Instead of a channel for it to raise up and down in and leak air, I went through a single hole. The rod just slid in and out of the hole when raising and lowering, and would pivot at the u-joint.

The bracket I made can be removed and the original installed. Pretty easy to build. Hope you can see it. My cab is a Cozy Cab, and the lower clear areas is plexiglass. You can just make a plate that goes over the slot in your cab, and drill a hole in the plate. Way better than the slot in my opinion.

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I'd like to see some good pics of that Sims cab! Post em up!

IliketheRedcubs 12-19-2017 08:18 PM

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Okay, some great ideas! I’ll try a few different mock ups and figure it out. Thanks! This the only other pic I have at the moment... I’ve got lots of wiring to finish up yet. I really dislike electrical!

J-Mech 12-19-2017 09:13 PM

Hooking up lights I assume? Windshield wiper?

I never got around to putting lights on the cab. I have lights on the fenders when the cab isn't installed, so it's not like I have to really do anything other than bolt them to the cab and plug them in. Now that LED's are getting cheaper, I'll probably go that route. One of these days, I'd like to have enough running machines the cab can just stay on the 1811 all the time. Real PITA pulling it on and off. I haven't put in on in a couple years.

IliketheRedcubs 12-20-2017 10:11 AM

Yes, the PO had 6 lights on it plus the windshield wiper. Thankfully all the lights are LED otherwise the charging system/battery couldn't keep up! I may not hook all of them up as it seems to be overkill in my mind. What's even more of a challenge is making someone else's wiring "mess" work! :BangPC:

Ikea6e 12-20-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IliketheRedcubs (Post 441307)
So next problem with this setup... I put a sims cab on, the 982. The shoot crank isn’t long enough. Now what?!?!

Put an Electric Chute Rotator on mine. Works well.




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The motor is a Chevy power window motor, e.g. 1990's.

Nice looking 982.

Good luck,

Ike

IliketheRedcubs 12-23-2017 09:08 PM

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Here what I came up with. Did I do okay?

IliketheRedcubs 12-23-2017 09:09 PM

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Second picture.

J-Mech 12-23-2017 09:42 PM

Looks good to me!
If it doesn't impede entry, and you can reach it, it will work fine!


I still want some more pics of that cab when you get time!

jbrewer 12-28-2017 08:35 AM

Looks great! Junkyards are wonderful resources :beerchug:



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Originally Posted by Ikea6e (Post 441453)
Put an Electric Chute Rotator on mine. Works well.




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The motor is a Chevy power window motor, e.g. 1990's.

Nice looking 982.

Good luck,

Ike


J-Mech 12-28-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrewer (Post 442368)
Looks great! Junkyards are wonderful resources :beerchug:

Who said it came from a junk yard? Power window motors are cheap from a parts store. Have you never bought one?

jbrewer 12-28-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 442374)
Who said it came from a junk yard? Power window motors are cheap from a parts store. Have you never bought one?

I didn't ask your opinion Jon, please go help someone else.

J-Mech 12-28-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrewer (Post 442377)
I didn't ask your opinion Jon, please go help someone else.

I didn't ask for your help finding threads to post in. Why don't you go away? :BB&YS:

Gone for 5 years and want to come back and be a new forum leader eh? Yeah. :bash2:

Sam Mac 12-28-2017 10:21 AM

Play nice now kids. :biggrin2:


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