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jkmola 09-19-2017 07:37 AM

1811 - Trying to Install Tiller
 
Trying to mount a 1a tiller on an 1811 and have everything BUT the plate that mounts on the rear end the tiller connects to. I think it's the plate that is part of the 3 pt lift, but not really sure what it's called. If someone could tell me what the correct terminology is, it might help me locate one easier and I can also post it in the wanted section.

J-Mech 09-19-2017 08:30 AM

The only way you can mount a 1A tiller to an 1811 is to make a custom adapter.

If you have a Cat O 3pt hitch, and the correct adapter, you can mount a 2B tiller.



I made my own custom mount system, and it works wonderfully.

jkmola 09-20-2017 07:48 AM

I think I came across your custom plate while searching threads about this. If I recall right, I think you said it ended up looking almost like the plate that comes with a 3 pt? My thinking is it might beeasier to come up with that plate and modify it a little, rather than make the whole thing from scratch when I'm not even real sure it goes together in the first place. Complicated by the fact that the tractor is at my son's house and I can't just go out and look and cipher on it.

I'll do a little more digging - maybe find a pic somewhere that gives me a good idea on what it should look like. Then make something up from there. Thank you

J-Mech 09-20-2017 08:13 AM

I am not sure you quite understand what I did.....
It works similar to the adapter for a 3pt. But looks totally different. Finding one is difficult already, and then you would need a 3pt to use it with.

You better go get the tractor from your boy. I'm really good, but I still find it easier to work on something I can see. I never was good at telepathically building stuff.

One of these days I'm going to build some more of these adapters and sell them. :BlahBlah:

yettrbomb 09-20-2017 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmola (Post 433246)
Trying to mount a 1a tiller on an 1811 and have everything BUT the plate that mounts on the rear end the tiller connects to. I think it's the plate that is part of the 3 pt lift, but not really sure what it's called. If someone could tell me what the correct terminology is, it might help me locate one easier and I can also post it in the wanted section.

Xtreme motorworks makes 3 point hitches, and the adaptor package to mount those old tillers on the 82 series. I was looking to make my 1a tiller work with my 1812, and I ended up buying the tiller adaptor from xtreme. Was going to make my own, like Jmech did, but decided it was easier to buy one. I had never seen one in person, only pics. Mine arrived in less than a week, and is really really nice. Just food for thought.

J-Mech 09-20-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yettrbomb (Post 433342)
Xtreme motorworks makes 3 point hitches, and the adaptor package to mount those old tillers on the 82 series. I was looking to make my 1a tiller work with my 1812, and I ended up buying the tiller adaptor from xtreme. Was going to make my own, like Jmech did, but decided it was easier to buy one. I had never seen one in person, only pics. Mine arrived in less than a week, and is really really nice. Just food for thought.

Well yeah.... but $700 just to mount a tiller???
I guess you'd be able to mount other stuff too with the 3pt. But with a 1A, he still is going to have to buy the weld on parts for the tiller, or make his own if he puts it on a 3pt. The plate I made might have cost me $30.

yettrbomb 09-20-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 433345)
Well yeah.... but $700 just to mount a tiller???
I guess you'd be able to mount other stuff too with the 3pt. But with a 1A, he still is going to have to buy the weld on parts for the tiller, or make his own if he puts it on a 3pt. The plate I made might have cost me $30.

I know....I already had a 3pt. I did make my pieces to weld on. So 240 or whatever it was for the adapter to me was monies well spent. Plus he had 10% off going when I ordered.

J-Mech 09-20-2017 11:45 AM

That's still more than $30. :biggrin2:

About 8 times more.....

yettrbomb 09-20-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 433347)
That's still more than $30. :biggrin2:

About 8 times more.....

Sure is. But having never seen one, and only grainy pics to go by, I knew my limitations. Justified it to myself, all is good :beerchug:

Probly would've been easier and less headache in the end to buy the model 400 (whichever one is self powered) that was about an hour away. But I didn't:BlahBlah:

jkmola 09-21-2017 06:22 AM

I think you're right J-Mech, I'm NOT sure! Hahaha. And although a 3 pt would be very nice to have, I'm not gonna complain, but yeah I'm not spending 7 times the amount I spent on the tractor to mount a tiller. I discovered last nite that if I substitute 782 for 1811 I get a whole lot more pics when I google. So I'm gonna take a gander at some of those pics until I can tell what I'm looking at/for, get the tractor in front of me and turn loose with the angle grinder and welder

J-Mech 09-21-2017 08:40 AM

The important thing to note about the 782 and the 1811 is that while they are the same tractor, they are a little different. The late 782 and the 1811 are the same. *Most* 782's have a cast iron rear (later ones didn't). All 1811's have an aluminum rear. The issue is that the aluminum rear won't accept the bolt on gear box. You can't even drill the gear box mounting to go on. The frame work for the box is in the way to drill it for the aluminum rear. So, all you are doing is making a plate that is very close to the rear end, so that the box can be bolted on. Now... that's all you really have to do. I made a quick mounting system so that I could easily remove the tiller, but that isn't necessary. Make sure that whatever you make is bolted to the frame, and the sides of the trans case, preferably through the lower axle mount bolts. Don't use the bolts on the rear cover. The other issue you will encounter is that it will take a longer than specified belt. You will also need the 5/8" pulley on the lower tiller gear box pulley. I'm sure you know, but you will need a sleeve hitch set up off of an '82 series hydro tractor. (682/782). It's really not a difficult build at all.

jkmola 09-22-2017 07:02 AM

Ahhhhh, I'm starting to get the picture now! Thanks for the detailed description. I think I now can get it from here. Do you think 1/4" plate is heavy enough? Or should I go a little heavier?

J-Mech 09-22-2017 09:00 AM

I used 3/16". We're not pulling big equipment here. Look at the frame on the tractor. It isn't even 1/4". 3/16" plate is heavy enough.

jkmola 09-23-2017 07:01 AM

Great. I can get to it now, and see what I can come up with. Boy wants to break some ground for a garden this fall and get the soil ready for planting in the spring. Pressure is on! Thanks again

J-Mech 09-23-2017 08:38 AM

Better get a plow. Tillers don't break ground very well at all.
Might in the spring when it's soft.... but not now.

Rescue11 09-24-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 433527)
Better get a plow. Tillers don't break ground very well at all.
Might in the spring when it's soft.... but not now.

X2, have done this many times and it just beats the living piss out of everything. Actually either get a plow or a field cultivator. Well they're not really a field cultivator there just a coil tine more like a chisel plow. Hang weights off of them and you can sink it in farther than the tractor will pull it.


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