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JoeMopar 07-15-2017 09:34 PM

Cub Cadet 100 w/ mower deck mounting problem
 
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Hi folks,
Been a while since I've been on here. Moved from Ct. to SC. last Nov. and loving it. Brought down my 1200 and 100.

Never had a mower deck with my 100 but picked one up a few months ago. Trying to get it set up and running into a problem where the deck is pitched forward and I can't figure out how to level it to the shop floor. It's so bad that the belt will not stay on the pulley. Going to try and load some pictures and hopefully someone with a 100 set up can let me know what's going on with it. As it is now the center blade with the deck all the way down is about an inch off the floor and the rear of the blade is about 2.5 inches. Thanks,
Joe

Rmowl 07-15-2017 10:27 PM

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Best I can tell, that's a quick attach mule drive mounted to the frame which the 100 didn't come equipped with. Also noticed that the front deck hangers appear to be home made. I'm not home to take pictures of the correct set up, I'm sure someone will chime in with what you need. Found this picture on my phone of my 100. Has the pin on style mule drive that was used up to the 123. The QA mule probably hangs a little lower. Looks like a nice 100 with the hydraulic lift and creeper gear

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 07:17 AM

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Thank you Rmowl for your response to my dilemma. Posting a few more pics so you and others can see what I have going on here.

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 07:21 AM

Not sure why my pictures are coming out sideways or upside down as in the case of the second one down above which is showing the blade and how tilted it is to the concrete floor. Pictures were right side up on my gallery.

DeltaCub 07-16-2017 07:45 AM

Three things to check closely; 1) The hanger "fork" the portion that slides onto the lift lever is badly worn which allows the front of the deck to droop. 2) The lift lever where the "fork" rests is also worn...has flat spot worn on it not round.
3) This affects side to side...the lift arm on the right side of the lift lever appears to lower than the left side arm.

Consider the fact this tractor and deck are over 52 yrs old...there is cumulative wear through out...it adds up to a droopy deck. It can be corrected, but will take a great deal of welding, grinding and fitting.:beerchug:

DeltaCub 07-16-2017 07:48 AM

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Look closely at area circled....

R Bedell 07-16-2017 07:53 AM

Here is the Installation Manual for your Mower Deck.... http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4683

Dirty Steve 07-16-2017 07:59 AM

That's a nice looking 100 you have there. Keep posting pictures from all angles. Folks here will be able to figure it out for you.

IHinIN 07-16-2017 09:42 AM

My 100 had the same issue when I got it. I ended up having to rework the piece that attaches to the front of deck. Mine was bent and it made the deck hang low in front. I welded on the arm that runs up to the rockshaft at a slight angle to the arms running to the deck to raise the front of the deck. This is the only pic I can find that shows the angle. I also added a belt guide to keep the belt from flying off.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...et/seat005.jpg

ironman 07-16-2017 10:00 AM

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There are two sets of holes in the sub frame here, you might try putting the hangers in the more forward holes.

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 427694)
There are two sets of holes in the sub frame here, you might try putting the hangers in the more forward holes.

Ironman I've gone back and forth between sets of holes and to tell you the truth I can't see where it does anything different.

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IHinIN (Post 427691)
My 100 had the same issue when I got it. I ended up having to rework the piece that attaches to the front of deck. Mine was bent and it made the deck hang low in front. I welded on the arm that runs up to the rockshaft at a slight angle to the arms running to the deck to raise the front of the deck. This is the only pic I can find that shows the angle. I also added a belt guide to keep the belt from flying off.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...et/seat005.jpg

At this point I'm thinking the belt will not stay on because of the severe angle of pulley. Mind you it came off with just be turning the blade by hand, not by the machine running. Thanks for your response.

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 427681)
Here is the Installation Manual for your Mower Deck.... http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4683

Thank you R Bedell for this link. Do you know if the Eye hooks shown on the front of my mower deck are original? In the manual it shows a different hardware. Not sure if they've changed from year to year or if someone just cobbed it up at one time or another.:BangPC:

R Bedell 07-16-2017 12:19 PM

IMO - The "Eye" hooks do not look original.

Baccarat 07-16-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IHinIN (Post 427691)
My 100 had the same issue when I got it. I ended up having to rework the piece that attaches to the front of deck. Mine was bent and it made the deck hang low in front. I welded on the arm that runs up to the rockshaft at a slight angle to the arms running to the deck to raise the front of the deck. This is the only pic I can find that shows the angle. I also added a belt guide to keep the belt from flying off.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...et/seat005.jpg

Adam, I like your belt guide mod. I'm surprised that it wasn't something IH would have done considering the length of that PTO belt. One on each side wouldn't hurt.
Mike

jaynjeep 07-16-2017 01:19 PM

As Roland stated before.. you have the wrong mule drive hanger on it.. I'm pretty sure the quick attach mule drive hangs lower in the front than the bolt on mule drive hanger that fits the 70-123.. I'm not where I can measure one at the moment.. I will try to look and measure later today

darkminion_17 07-16-2017 01:33 PM

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Beat you to it Jay, they are the same, BTDT.
This is incorrect and prolly holding your rear up, this should be slotted like the other side and should be in the front holes.

sir_lancealot 07-16-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 427729)
Beat you to it Jay, they are the same, BTDT.
This is incorrect and prolly holding your rear up, this should be slotted like the other side and should be in the front holes.

:IH Trusted Hand:

I was trying to look at two of my machines to compare them. I agree with this assessment.

jaynjeep 07-16-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 427729)
Beat you to it Jay, they are the same, BTDT.
This is incorrect and prolly holding your rear up, this should be slotted like the other side and should be in the front holes.

good eyes Lew!!:beerchug::beerchug:

I won't worry with measuring now.. Learn something every day!!:biggrin2:

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 427681)
Here is the Installation Manual for your Mower Deck.... http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4683

Roland upon looking at this manual in depth more I've come to the conclusion that it's not the one I have for the 100. Unless they are so close they only do one manual. The one that I have has a cast nose section ( with no front roller ) and the left and right end tips are also cast bolted on pcs.

I tried unsuccessfully to find where you got that link from to see if there was another that fits the description above better. Still wondering if them eye bolts at the front of the deck are correct. The leading edge of the front of the deck also scallops up a couple of inches across the front.
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Attachment 86374 Still don't know why my pictures load sideways.

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 427729)
Beat you to it Jay, they are the same, BTDT.
This is incorrect and prolly holding your rear up, this should be slotted like the other side and should be in the front holes.

Lew thank you for pointing this out. Although I don't have a slotted linkage like the other side ( I will have to try and locate one ) I disconnected the right side that has the unslotted linkage hoping that it would look better. I wasn't to impressed, something there is still amiss. I think I need to know exactly which deck I have and go from there as to what I need for a mule drive, or updated parts for such. I appreciate everyone's input and still looking for help here.

Thanks guys,
Joe

Rmowl 07-16-2017 03:53 PM

that deck is correct for your 100. The mule drive and hanger is not, that's likely why the hangers have been modified. I am running a wide frame 38" deck with wide frame hanger on the stock 100 mule drive with no issues. I have the correct mule and hanger in parts, but wont be in CT until October, going around Danbury, if your still interested at that time

JoeMopar 07-16-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmowl (Post 427747)
that deck is correct for your 100. The mule drive and hanger is not, that's likely why the hangers have been modified. I am running a wide frame 38" deck with wide frame hanger on the stock 100 mule drive with no issues. I have the correct mule and hanger in parts, but wont be in CT until October, going around Danbury, if your still interested at that time

I moved to Easley, SC. the begining of this year. Just changed the info in my profile. lol Coming down this way?:bigthink: Yeah I'd be happy to by that from you, not sure what shipping would cost though.

Rmowl 07-16-2017 05:32 PM

right on, Ive been through Easly, I did a cabin at cowpens SC couple yrs ago and stayed in Gaffney just east of you and spent a bunch of time north of you in and around Brevard NC. Id imagine you should be able to find what you need locally if you hunt craigslist. Ive been searching craigslist where Im at now in Kansas and there isn't much as far as cubs and what cool stuff there is, its way overpriced, or more than id ever pay. I go down to vols games in the fall, maybe could figure something out if you don't find anything by then. If I were you Id look for the correct mule drive for any cub up to a 123 and the associated deck hanger to work with that deck because it looks like a good deck. Often times its cheaper to by the whole tractor and get what you need off it then you got a whole supply of parts. I went with a near mint wide frame 38" deck because the original one was all beat up on mine, I do however have the deck hanger and mule off another tractor

JoeMopar 07-17-2017 05:32 PM

So I came across this mule drive / carriage for 70 / 100 Cub Cadet on E Bay. Other than it having the right side slotted link pc. I can't see much difference in it than the one that I have. It has the two nubs on the front that will go into the eye hooks on the front of the mower deck like the one that's on my cub now. Is this listing on E Bay not the correct one for my application either? What am I missing here? :bigthink::bash2::BangPC: Thanks guys.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142430483021?ul_noapp=true

sir_lancealot 07-17-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMopar (Post 427742)
Lew thank you for pointing this out. Although I don't have a slotted linkage like the other side ( I will have to try and locate one ) I disconnected the right side that has the unslotted linkage hoping that it would look better. I wasn't to impressed, something there is still amiss. I think I need to know exactly which deck I have and go from there as to what I need for a mule drive, or updated parts for such. I appreciate everyone's input and still looking for help here.

Thanks guys,
Joe

Did you move the linkage to the forward hole like was suggested? How about removing the deck and checking the condition of the "fork" and foot rest rod to see their condition like DeltaCub suggested?

ironman 07-17-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_lancealot (Post 427894)
Did you move the linkage to the forward hole like was suggested? How about removing the deck and checking the condition of the "fork" and foot rest rod to see their condition like DeltaCub suggested?

yes, check to see that the fork in the sub-frame is around the foot rest rod and not above it. If above, it is going to angle your front lift arms more downward.
It should look like the pics below with a bolt shown through it.

sir_lancealot 07-17-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 427898)
yes, check to see that the fork in the sub-frame is around the foot rest rod and not above it. If above, it is going to angle your front lift arms more downward.
It should look like the pics below with a bolt shown through it.

That sure is the cleanest sub frame I've ever seen :beerchug::biggrin2:

darkminion_17 07-17-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_lancealot (Post 427899)
That sure is the cleanest sub frame I've ever seen :beerchug::biggrin2:


You can eat a bagel off of it, it so so clean!


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