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mrloring 07-12-2017 06:53 PM

Newbie questions
 
I recently purchased a Cub 100 and I am trying to learn all I can about these tractors.

Are the mule drives and subframes deck specific? ie 38" different than 42"

Are the mule drives and subframes model specific?

The reason I ask is mine came with a 50" deck so I am looking to purchase a deck and want to make sure that it will work.

Is there a part number on the rear wheels?

Mine appear to be two different wheels based on the backspacing.


Thanks in advance for the information.

sir_lancealot 07-12-2017 07:11 PM

The mule drive and subframe will be the same for the 38" and 42" decks available for the 100. There's even a 48" deck available that used the same one. The mule drives are model specific in the sense you need one for a narrow frame tractor. You have three options there: narrow frame, wide frame, and spread frame. Narrow frame started with the 70/100 and went through the 6/7 series. The 8/9 series started the wide frame. I don't know the difference with the spread frame machines....

There are two styles of subframes. Pin-on and Quick-Attach. The deck and subframe styles have to match.

Which rear wheels are you referring to? The tractor or deck wheels?

Randy Littrell 07-12-2017 08:26 PM

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/n...noquote=1&p=20


Here is a frame comparison from our library. Starting with the 102 model, they had a taller tunnel. Except for the 71,72, and 73, they have the low tunnel with round fenders verses the squared off fenders of the other models.

I spent a lot of time looking on line at pictures and comparing them. It takes awhile to figure out the difference.




Randy

zcub22 07-12-2017 08:38 PM

That thread is closed.

Rmowl 07-12-2017 09:40 PM

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I put a wide frame 38" deck off my 149 with the deck carrier to the factory mule drive. Works great. I have the correct deck for that model but this deck is nicer. Just passed by uniontown Monday in route to Kansas. Spent a lot of time working and fishing in and around your area.

mrloring 07-12-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_lancealot (Post 427387)

Which rear wheels are you referring to? The tractor or deck wheels?

The tractor wheels. The spacing between the tire and the frame is different by a few inches. One almost touching and the other a couple inches. I guess it only matters because it came with a snow plow so I was going to use chains.

sir_lancealot 07-12-2017 10:17 PM

What rear tire size do you have?

Randy Littrell 07-12-2017 10:18 PM

Try this one. http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...20&postcount=1



Randy

ironman 07-12-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrloring (Post 427399)
The tractor wheels. The spacing between the tire and the frame is different by a few inches. One almost touching and the other a couple inches. I guess it only matters because it came with a snow plow so I was going to use chains.

A few pictures would really help those of us with less than vivid imaginations get what you are saying, then maybe we can help you. Otherwise we can only theorize.

I don't believe there is any part number stamped into the wheel, but I have seen part numbers painted on the inside. Unfortunately you have to remove the tire to see it.

mrloring 07-12-2017 10:52 PM

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This is the only picture I have of the back of the tractor.

ironman 07-12-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrloring (Post 427408)
This is the only picture I have of the back of the tractor.

That's a poor picture to try to discern anything from, and yes the right tire looks way too close to the frame, but the left one looks too close also (just not as close). Maybe you got two wrong wheels. Get better pics!

mrloring 07-13-2017 08:17 AM

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After looking at other pics I think you are right. I must have two wrong wheels.

ironman 07-13-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrloring (Post 427430)
After looking at other pics I think you are right. I must have two wrong wheels.

Can you get pics from the sides? I'm wondering if maybe they are mounted with the outsides of the rims towards the hubs (on the inside). Don't even know if that is possible but something does not look right. What size are the tires?

mrloring 07-13-2017 01:35 PM

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22x7.5-12

That is the only side pic that I have until later.

ironman 07-13-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mrloring (Post 427443)
22x7.5-12

That is the only side pic that I have until later.

That wheel is on inside out!

sir_lancealot 07-13-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 427447)
That wheel is on inside out!

The valve stem is on the outside though, so the rim is from a different machine.

Those tires aren't the right size either. You should most likely have the 23x8.50-12 tire.

mrloring 07-15-2017 07:40 PM

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It appears that both wheels are from a different machine and are inside out.

mrloring 07-15-2017 08:07 PM

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Looks much better with the wheels on correctly. There is about a one inch difference in the offset.

Thanks to everyone that replied I will try to keep my newbie questions to a minimum.

Alvy 07-15-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrloring (Post 427652)
Thanks to everyone that replied I will try to keep my newbie questions to a minimum.

Don't worry about that at all. We were all new once :beerchug:

Baccarat 07-15-2017 08:52 PM

I,m still wondering why there is a 1 inch offset difference & why are the valve stems now on the inside?

ironman 07-15-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Baccarat (Post 427661)
I,m still wondering why there is a 1 inch offset difference & why are the valve stems now on the inside?

The valve stems were on the inside for some other brands of tractors. I know Wheelhorse did it, probably others. The difference in offset could be because they are two different width rims. Just guessing at that.

mrloring 07-15-2017 10:39 PM

The best I can figure is that the rims are from two different, possibly non cubbie, machines. I came to that conclusion using the SWAG method.... scientific wild ass guess!

sir_lancealot 07-16-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baccarat (Post 427661)
I,m still wondering why there is a 1 inch offset difference & why are the valve stems now on the inside?

Different manufacturers had different requirements. Just like with cars. For example: what is backwards for a Cub is correct for a Deere . Therefore, the valve stems were put on different sides so it would be on the outside for the correct application. Also, offset would be different depending on application. Bolt pattern was the same, so someone probably just grabbed whatever they could find and used those for your machine.


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