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guido 01-15-2017 05:21 PM

I got it... 147
 
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Got it home. Bought it for the hood and fenders. Seller pulled the engine, grill, lights, and electric lift for other projects. Hmmmm... I haven't checked if he took the rock shaft.

I'm not sure if I can bring myself to strip it for parts. It just needs a power plant to be a runner. Maybe a one arm loader/backhoe build is in its future. We shall see.

I think I got Cub Fever, LOL

Yosemite Sam 01-15-2017 05:57 PM

Glad to hear that you got it.

Although, I can't imagine what kind of "other project" would be cooler than a 147.

ken6x6 01-15-2017 06:22 PM

i think you have to bring it back to life. the 1x7 is my favorite NF.

guido 01-20-2017 09:39 PM

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Little by little I am disassembling this basket case of a 147. I am finding that some of the most common wear items are not worn. The driveshaft hub, drag link, axle pivot, and brake pads look great. This leads me to believe that it has had an easy life. Although it does seem that it has spent the past few years exposed to the weather. Every lever and linkage on this machine is locked solid.

Finally removed the front wheels and put my summer slicks and rims on. Don't ask me how, but by some act of a greater being, the rear tires are holding air. Lastly I freed up the brake lever and linkages. Still struggling with the hydro linkage.

My search for a K321 has been a bust so far. I'll keep looking. If the illusive K motor can't be found I have been brainstorming the idea of mounting a Yoo Lang Ding Dong power plant in it.

finsruskw 01-21-2017 09:03 AM

I hope the PO chokes on those parts
Damn shame if Ya ask me
He could not care less about the IH Cubs....
The last of the NF's ad the 1st of the 321's....
Surely one worth saving.
GGRRRRRR

guido 01-21-2017 11:03 AM

(discussion points)
There is a side of me that wants to keep it original. It would be so much easier. Everything would bolt right in.

Then there is the Tim Taylor side of me. Wouldn't it be cool to drop a Cosworth Vega engine in this thing! (<--- a little extreme)

Would it be sacrilege to:
* Install a K301 or K341 engine?
* Mount bigger tires?
* Change the gearing in a manual transmission?
* Use aftermarket parts. (i.e. carburetor, piston, dodge axles)
* Replace fasteners not having IH head stamps?

Long story... short
It is ultimately the owners decision. (cost / purity / function / second kind of cool)

drglinski 01-21-2017 05:52 PM

There are two kinds of people here on OCC. Those that like to keep it IH/CCC/MTD designed (purist) or those that take cutting torches and welders to them and turn them into pullers or other types of projects. I fall into the purist category. I think a 147 was designed as a beautiful machine and was engineered wonderfully for whatever task you can throw at it, and changing it is :bash:.

zippy1 01-21-2017 11:20 PM

Dream big is what I say. It's a great tractor in it's original form, put back together, and left original.
On the flip side, nothing rare about them either, and if you were looking to mod one, have at it. The possibilities are endless, if done tastefully.:beerchug:

TheSaturnV 01-22-2017 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 407100)
I hope the PO chokes on those parts
Damn shame if Ya ask me
He could not care less about the IH Cubs....
The last of the NF's ad the 1st of the 321's....
Surely one worth saving.
GGRRRRRR

Betcha a $50 that those parts will sit collecting dust for the next 30 years.

farmall fred 01-22-2017 04:03 PM

My feelings are it is your tractor build it as you wish. If I had it I would find a K301 to put in it and get it operational. Then if and when a K321 comes along for the right price change engines. Good luck with what ever you decide to do.

guido 01-23-2017 10:48 PM

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Thanks for your responses. This may not be a complete restoration but I intend to return this machine to it's original configuration.

I ran into a guy today that said he was a former employee of one of our sponsors. He went on to say that he spent a good deal of time disassembling derelict machines and placing the parts on shelves, in bins, or wherever but nobody ever made an inventory of these parts. He even told of removing complete power plants. (i.e. engine, carb, ign, muffler, fuel cell, generator) I have visited this sponsors web store in the past and never gave it much mind because it showed little to no inventory except uncounted machines rusting away in a field.
You get to do a lot of thinking while working on your machines. Memories come to me from the seller. He mentioned he has known the owner of this very same sponsor for a very long time. He didn't say where he acquired this machine and I never asked. As I have stated previously, this particular machine appears to have been exposed to the elements for quite some time.
Could it be? Do we think? I'm going to have to make a call.

I made some progress. The tractor is split and the control cam has been freed. Tomorrow comes the steering wheel and column so I can get access to the hydro control friction assembly. If I have time I will chuck a drill motor to the pump shaft and see if there is any happiness in the rear end.

Not shown... the "return to neutral rod" was snapped off at the clevis and the "T pin" is worn to a D on the back side. I can repair that. Is rod supposed to have a bend in it?

zippy1 01-23-2017 11:38 PM

Well would you look at that. Even have it trained already to stand on it's front tires.:beerchug:
Good to hear, you're bringing it back to life, :beer2:

guido 01-24-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 407393)
Well would you look at that. Even have it trained already to stand on it's front tires.

LMAO can I use that line?

guido 01-27-2017 07:43 PM

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Happiness is when you save a $100.

J-Mech 01-27-2017 09:22 PM

It still looks bent....

guido 01-27-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 407752)
It still looks bent....

You missed my other post asking about the control rod assembly. Straightening it will be easy enough if that is how it should be. Your input is greatly appreciated.

http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47375

Sugarmaker 01-30-2017 06:44 PM

Alan,
Years ago in a forum thread far far away, I also brought one of these back to life. It was a non running mostly complete tractor. The folks on here supported my every move and question!
Mine is not original. It has some mods like exhaust, seat, tires, and paint theme.
But when I fire this up I have a big smile on my face!:) Have fun! That 14 horse really barks!

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...R/DSC01160.jpg

Regards,
Chris

guido 01-30-2017 08:58 PM

Nice Red 147 you have there Chris.

I almost had an engine this weekend. Almost. Found a 149 on craigslist. By the time I arrived at the sellers place another was driving off with the tractor. Such is my luck.

I spun the pump today with a Milwaukee 1/2" drill motor. Even with only 800 rippums it was nice to see the tires spin.

guido 02-12-2017 02:55 PM

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Spent yesterday hanging out with my grandson. (fondly known as "drool-drool") What know one knew was I took him parts shopping. It was a riot. We came home with a K301, rock shaft, and everything to hang it. I must have dropped the ratchet. Maybe seller will mail it to me.
Yes, I have to find him a yellow hoodie.

The K301 will have to do until a K321 is found. I guess I shall call this one... Under Achiever

Also pictured below is my .30 cent driveshaft fix. I will be doing the Sam Mac series 2000 shaft mod but I needed to keep my hands busy waiting for the shaft to ship. As you can guess the coupler was egg-shaped and the nipple of the shaft was grooved. The bearing was a press fit with some JBW to fill the groove. Then the coupler was bored to a .005 slip fit. Thought I had some conveyor belt laying around to make the rag joint. No luck there.

stimpy 02-12-2017 03:44 PM

guess you can call it a 1247 or would it be a 1427 ???

yeeter 02-12-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by guido (Post 407753)
You missed my other post asking about the control rod assembly. Straightening it will be easy enough if that is how it should be. Your input is greatly appreciated.

http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47375

Saw that post myself and was wondering....

Mine is straight

guido 02-13-2017 12:22 AM

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Stimpy, I think Under Achiever is funnier.

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Originally Posted by yeeter (Post 409293)
Saw that post myself and was wondering....

Mine is straight

Since my inquiry on this matter I have found another post asking the same question. Dark Minion answered the same. Once I removed the rust and paint I found marks left from a press brake. A dimple with two equal distant crescent marks on the opposing side of the rod. I further believe that there is nothing that could have gotten caught in there to make such a bend in a piece of steel of that diameter without causing other damage. (i.e brake rod, hydro linkage, drive shaft, fan shroud)
I conclude neither is incorrect.

guido 05-15-2017 09:45 PM

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Nice Rack!!! Or is that rake?
Since the layoff I have loads of time (if not money) to tinker.
The 147 is nearly assembled. The K321 my buddy sent doesn't smoke but there is a lot of blow by at the breather. I opened the bottom and evicted the balance gears.
My favorite part is the rake in the hood. I think the grill may have some wiggle room to help this.

guido 01-15-2020 11:47 PM

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It's been some time since I've done anything to the 147. It has been assigned to snow throwing duties in which it has only been used twice. My neighbor keeps thanking me for warding off the snow with my readiness.

OK. Been brainstorming the electric lift situation and finally have my solution set in place and functioning. A YooLangDingDong linear actuator for lifting and a worm drive motor to rotate the chute. The actuator was modified for a 5" stroke as needed. Waiting on some plugs to finalize the electrical. I must admit that I miscalculated the speed of the motors. They are a bit on the slow side.

Here is my meager attempt at film making.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgB6Vxg7Ztk

drglinski 01-16-2020 08:54 PM

Looks good!

jbrewer 01-17-2020 07:51 AM

Nice job, and great to see the RELAY block (fuses would be great too!)

Slow likely means a significant gear reduction which allows a reasonable sized motor (with reasonable sized current) to be used.

guido 01-17-2020 09:36 AM

Thx Daniel, jbrewer.

We shall see how well the relay block handles the Kohler Shake.

drglinski 01-21-2020 08:23 PM

If you want to go back to the OG 14 HP Scott Urschel in New Haven IN may be able to get you one. He had one back in October.

guido 01-21-2020 09:17 PM

Not sure I need to go back to original. The 14hp engine that came from a wide frame is running well enough. If something happens to it I let you know.

Been thinking about doing this one up this summer. Take all the best parts off the 127 and send that one on the road making room for something else.


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