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caproms1 12-01-2016 04:09 PM

Project X: Target Identification
 
Howdy folks,
I announced in the Welcome to OCC forum that I intend to heist my buddy's IH Cub Cadet 682 tractor and restore it to operating condition. This effort is codenamed Project X and will accomplish 2 things: 1. It will get my buddy's wife off his back and 2. It will honor a great friend and retired USMC veteran.
Note: This will NOT be a museum quality restoration. This tractor will be restored to excellent running condition and appearance with the intention of being a working vehicle. It will have new paint, decals, and perhaps some upgrades. It will NOT be a hack job collection of mixed brand parts - I will try to use parts intended for a IH Cub Cadet 682.


Here are the proposed phases of the project:
Phase 1: Planning
1. Target Identification - Observe and triage the tractor. Take pictures. Line up an insider (my friend's wife in this case) to keep him off the scent once the tractor goes missing.
2. Get Smart - Locate resources (like OCC forum), line up a suitable workspace, download service and operators manuals.
3. Finance the Adventure - Start a go-fund-me to canvas our circle of friends who may want to contribute to the effort.
4. Record, record, record - A slideshow or short movie will be presented when the tractor is returned. Digital records will be kept at every step of the project.
Phase 2: Execution
1. The Heist - Steal the 682 from my buddy's backyard. Leave stupid clues that lead nowhere.
2. Diagnosis - Survey and test all systems - mechanical, electrical, fuel, mowing, etc.
3. Parts and Repair - Obtain necessary parts, perform all necessary repairs.
4. Appearance - Paint, decals, wheels, lights, etc. Once the tractor is mechanically stable, it's time to give it a makeover.
Phase 3: Return of the Jedi
1. Reveal - TBD and lots of time to think about this. His annual BBQ generally has about 100 people present so that is a great target date in early July to surprise him with a revamped 682.
2. Praise and Adoration
3. Job Well Done
So that's the plan in a nutshell. Right now we are still in Phase 1 Planning. I have pictures to share with all of you. As I do this, feel free to call out items you note. I appreciate your help.
Thanks, - Mike

caproms1 12-01-2016 04:12 PM

Pictures!
 
Here's a link to pictures of the target 682 taken today:
https://goo.gl/photos/jyfF573RSwQhERzG6

Feel free to comment on them as you see fit.

-Mike

Terry C 12-01-2016 05:07 PM

As can be seen it's an IH built 682 with a series II Kohler, that's good.
Looks much better than ones I've started with so I guess it's up to you
what will take place. I mean how far to get into it.
The deck needs the most work from what I see.
Many things can't be accessed until it's apart.

olds45512 12-01-2016 05:29 PM

To be honest the paint looks decent, I would just polish it and leave it original.

PaulS 12-01-2016 06:00 PM

Actually the project tractor looks pretty good. I did see it is a series II engine which has far fewer problems than the series I. You most likely will find wiring repairs good and bad. Before painting you may try a wash and buff and wax. I've seen some of the red ones come out looking really good. Much cheaper and labor intensive than a repaint.

drglinski 12-01-2016 06:04 PM

It's IH built with a cast iron rear end AND the series 2 engine. Looks like a winner!

darkminion_17 12-01-2016 07:34 PM

The only way to tell if, a series 2 motor,is the get the spec number off the engine, is it. Yes, hmmm.Herh herh herh.
On your way to cub cadet fever, you are. Yeesssssss indeed.

Oh my belly ache yes indeed.

john hall 12-01-2016 09:28 PM

Good seat and wheel weights. Unless its wore out or catastrophically destroyed beyond what pictures show, it looks like a pretty easy project to put back into service. Doesn't look abused.
A couple questions--he will have a shed to put it under after you go to the trouble of painting, right?? Didn't you initially say a July completion date--whats he going to use until then?

austinewald 12-01-2016 10:42 PM

I would use a clay bar on that paint, see if it shines up, then keep original paint.

johncub7172 12-02-2016 12:48 AM

Sounds like good advice about the condition of the paint. You have a nice tractor to work with. If you do decide on paint, you won't need to take the red down much at all. 220 grit or lighter perhaps.

Good luck, have fun with this, and we like pictures!

:beerchug:

caproms1 12-02-2016 09:23 AM

I think this is a great suggestion. I hope we can do that. - Mike

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 401600)
To be honest the paint looks decent, I would just polish it and leave it original.


caproms1 12-02-2016 09:25 AM

Yoda! I knew you were a tractor guy! All those years in the swamp will do that to ya!

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 401615)
The only way to tell if, a series 2 motor,is the get the spec number off the engine, is it. Yes, hmmm.Herh herh herh.
On your way to cub cadet fever, you are. Yeesssssss indeed.

Oh my belly ache yes indeed.


caproms1 12-02-2016 09:31 AM

I agree Paul - at first glance the tractor seems solid and gives the impression of having been garaged it's whole life. Not a lot of spurious rust on it. It also shows signs of being maintained (or repaired) because the paint has been taken off some of the bolts where wrenches were applied. I will try everything to not repaint this thing. :-) Also - I do want to clean up the wiring - ALL of it. I noticed some of the interlocks seems to be missing...I would just as soon put a new harness in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 401603)
Actually the project tractor looks pretty good. I did see it is a series II engine which has far fewer problems than the series I. You most likely will find wiring repairs good and bad. Before painting you may try a wash and buff and wax. I've seen some of the red ones come out looking really good. Much cheaper and labor intensive than a repaint.


caproms1 12-02-2016 09:37 AM

John, when the tractor first stopped running last summer, I came over with truckload of tools and went through the fuel, spark, and air triage. I found a broken spark plug (thanks to a neighbor kid who offered to work on it), some old fuel, and a relatively clean filter. The battery was dead and I also replaced the ignition switch. When the tractor finally fired up, it ran GOOD. So I am optimistic about it's future. Somewhere in between now and last summer, it's developed an electrical problem that drains the battery. ALSO, the clutch would NOT engage - hence no ability to mow. I bypassed the PTO clutch with a 12v lead and it still would not activate. I'm actually looking forward to ripping that thing off the front of the engine and cussing it out as I replace it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by john hall (Post 401643)
Good seat and wheel weights. Unless its wore out or catastrophically destroyed beyond what pictures show, it looks like a pretty easy project to put back into service. Doesn't look abused.
A couple questions--he will have a shed to put it under after you go to the trouble of painting, right?? Didn't you initially say a July completion date--whats he going to use until then?


PaulS 12-02-2016 09:44 AM

One of our members, Mlamar, makes wiring harnesses. I have used one on a 102 and was well pleased. The wires were properly color coded and even had a tag as to where it went. All the wires were of the proper guage and length with proper ends. Was an easy job all the way around. You can find his post in the Parts Sources section.

ambrola 12-03-2016 10:25 AM

Mike,
You better have a good plan of keeping him from noticing it missing. I would know within a day if I were missing a Cubby.:beerchug::bigthink::beerchug:

caproms1 12-03-2016 01:01 PM

Ronnie,
Ha! Do I have a plan?! Do I have a plan?!...Well, yes and no, not exactly....His wife assures me that he NEVER goes back behind the shed in the winter time. Between us guys and the internet, I think that's BS because even if he isn't going back there to check on the tractor under the tarps (groan - we have to find a better solution for housing the refurbed Project X) I don't know a man who doesn't occasionally take a leak in his backyard. He will definitely go back there at least once...

The "reveal" is planned for July, so the question(s) are 1. When to steal it? I don't plan to heist it until all parts and logistics (at least those I can plan on) for the rework have been lined up. 2. Should I cover up the theft? I am thinking that I could possibly fill the tarps with boxes to make it look like the tractor is still there. That might buy me 2 winter months, probably Feb and March, to keep the tractor in my garage. An alternative approach is whether or not I should cover up the theft at all - maybe I leave an empty tarp and wait for him to discover it. Personally, I prefer the cover-up approach and then
I don't have to worry about him trying to go out and buy a new tractor (which his wife has assured me she will forbid) or somehow figuring out the conspiracy. I'm a freak about security but I can't say the same about his wife...the longer we hide the theft from him, the less time available for someone to spill the beans. It's my experience that most surprises are ruined at the last moment - like when I walked into a restaurant for my 50th birthday party and there was a friend and his wife standing there with a present in their hand. The party was upstairs - they were late. My wife was slightly pissed at them for that - all her planning out the window....I like the security maxim that says something to the effect of "...the number of people who could possibly know a secret is the square of the people who know the secret" - so I've told 3 people about this caper (aside from this board which I'm hoping has no chance of intersection with my buddy) and so there could be 3 squared = 9 people who already potentially know about the caper.

Anyways - I'm working on the plan. All inputs welcome. Especially those that are clever and will mess with my friends head - like possibly making it look like the tractor caught fire and burned to a pile of melted junk...or leaving behind crack-head paraphernalia evidence to throw him off the trail, etc etc etc. :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ambrola (Post 401769)
Mike,
You better have a good plan of keeping him from noticing it missing. I would know within a day if I were missing a Cubby.:beerchug::bigthink::beerchug:



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