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BillZ 08-19-2016 10:01 PM

Broke PTO clutch, need help
 
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I was mowing today with my 129 and noticed the PTO would not disengage. On further inspection it seems the piece that connects the clutch to the lever has broken. I've attached a picture.

I've never rebuilt a clutch or anything. Anyone have any experience fixing this problem? What part do I need and am I looking at taking apart and rebuilding the whole clutch? Any advice would be much appreciated.

BillZ 08-19-2016 10:23 PM

Ok, I'm doing a little research in the technical section (great resource!) and it looks like that wear button is not supposed to be attached, but why won't the clutch disengage? Do I just need to make an adjustment?

olds45512 08-19-2016 10:26 PM

Your pic isn't the best so I can't see real well, does the lever still have the wear button on it?

BillZ 08-19-2016 10:37 PM

The wear button is still there, though I'm not sure what kind of shape it's in.

olds45512 08-19-2016 10:41 PM

If it's wore thin it might not be pushing on the pto enough to disengage it, you could try adjusting the rod to tighten the gap just to see if it solves the issue but I wouldn't run it that way for long, if it works you can get a new wear button ( I recommend one from Jeff in PA)but if it doesn't then you know the pto needs work. The gap between the wear button and the pto should be about the thickness of a matchbook cover.

BillZ 08-19-2016 10:47 PM

Thanks, I'll try adjusting it tighter tomorrow morning. I'll post an update of my progress.

olds45512 08-19-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BillZ (Post 388135)
Thanks, I'll try adjusting it tighter tomorrow morning. I'll post an update of my progress.

Just make sure the arm that the wear button is on won't come in contact with the fingers on the pto, that will make for a big problem.

J-Mech 08-20-2016 12:07 AM

I wouldn't mess with adjusting it. I can see the center button in your pic cocked sideways. I think it wore through the fingers. You'll likely end up with a bigger mess if you try to tighten it.

Post better pics. That one is too far away, and it's too dark. Didn't you notice that you can't see anything in it??

yourshoesareuntied 08-20-2016 12:21 AM

this may give you a better idea of whats going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopLHNaTIKs

BillZ 08-20-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by yourshoesareuntied (Post 388175)
this may give you a better idea of whats going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopLHNaTIKs

Thanks, this was very helpful. Now I understand what I'm looking at!

BillZ 08-20-2016 11:35 AM

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Here are some better pics, now that I can work in the light of day and have the hood and grill off. Looks like the wear button is completely worn and the actual lever was pressing on the center of the clutch.

Also, according to the video I saw, I don't think the set screw holes aren't lined up properly.

Since I'm this far, I might as well remove the the whole thing and take a look at it. So far I know I definitely need a new wear button. Other thoughts?

BillZ 08-20-2016 12:41 PM

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Well, that's what's left of the wear button...

BillZ 08-20-2016 12:43 PM

This is the part I need, correct?

http://www.pattonacres.com/cub-cadet...ces-473483-r1/

Mr.Goffena 08-20-2016 12:46 PM

Personally i would leave it alone aside from checking the bearing. Without the tool that comes with the rebuild kit it can be difficult to set it up. You will also need a very thin 7/16 wrench. The set screws only line up when you disengage the clutch and turn it. I don't mean to discourage you but if the bearing feels good I wouldn't worry about it. Just my :TwoCents:

Mr.Goffena 08-20-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BillZ (Post 388243)

That is it. I didn't like the brass one I got. I went back to the original. I dont know how they last for others but I didn't like mine.

BillZ 08-20-2016 12:53 PM

Thanks, I think the clutch is ok otherwise. I'm inclined to replace the button and be done with it, since the clutch did work ok while the button continued in its existence.

olds45512 08-20-2016 01:05 PM

I agree, I'd leave the clutch alone and just get a new wear button.


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