149 question
 

Got a 149 to restore for a customer. Had some question well a few.

The frame cover (between your legs) seems not to be stock. Its a fabricated replacement. Which is fine but it seems to be lacking a lever? In the operators manual page 7 (item 12) is listed as a release lever? Well the cover lacks one as well as a hole. Removing the cover doesn't reveal anything out of place.

The OM Says to pull up on it to move the tractor when not running and not leave it up when running the engine page 15 of OM.

So is it missing or just doesn't have one?

S/N 2050047U421793

That kind of looks like the factory cover but appears to have been modified for some reason, the lever is probably just missing.

I'd pull the tunnel cover and see if it has the automatic relief valves. If it has those, you don't need the lever. I bet someone replaced them with the automatic ones. The 149 came with the manual relief valves, you had to use the lever in the tunnel cover the push the pins down, so you could move the tractor with the engine not running.

The factory cover looks like this.....

As you can see in this pic, the rear of the cover slides in under the seat pan.
You will also need the cover for the shifter hole (on gear tractors).

Its not a factory pan it has crappy welds on under side or seams its homemade for sure. I can clean it up and reuse it no problem.

Cover and rear fenders are pulled. Pictures attached its missing the "hydrostat" spring. For give me for not knowing name been reading as much as I can and its all cobbled together.

Not sure on the auto relief valves. I can push it easy when off.

Also looks like I am missing the yellow square cover right under the seat.


They hydro fluid looked clean. It will get replaced as well as filter.

Plans are rolling resto. Repaint frame, rear, motor as one. Then powder coat the fenders and sheet metal. Then detail kit etc.

It can fine and moved around on its own. The steering needs attention I'll check the box.

Might pull the head to decarb it.

Also it has a 42'' deck but its missing several items. And I will have to fix blade fences underneath it. Missing the belt covers (will need a set as he has a boy he wants to use it and don't want him loosing any fingers or toes. Also lacks the wheels on the back of the deck and the guide rails on either side.

Hard to tell because of the crap on your relief valves but I think I can see a button. If there are buttons, they are manual valves. The crud may be holding the buttons down and that is why you can move it. If the buttons are up and you can move it you have bigger problems. Auto relief valves have no buttons.

The "hydrostat" spring you are referring to are called trunion springs. There are two that go in that square hole in the "trunion", which by the way is trashed. It can be fixed.

You got a lotta work ahead of you!

If your doing a restore for a customer id buy the correct cover, why have a restored tractor and put that terrible looking cover back on? You should be able to get on fairly cheap.

Just depends on the price. I can make this on look good for 1hr worth of time vs buying a decent used one. So I will weight the cost of perfecting this one vs buying a decent used one. So if a used one is $20-30 then go that route if not I can fix this one for that labor wise. Also owner not to worried about it as I already informed him about it. Its not a show tractor. So price determent's what gets done etc. He has a budget to work within.

Yeah looks like the spring setup isn't in good shape.

Is the relief valves to two caps on top of the hydo unit? circled in red.

The are flat on top.

Those are auto valves. You don't need the lever shown in ironmans pics

If they are flat, they are auto release, if they have buttons like this they are manual. I wouldn't prefer one over the other unless you park your tractor on a steep hill and forget to set your parking brake. With the manual release valves the tractor will likely be where you left it parked. With the autos....... I'd look down yonder in the paw paw patch!

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Looking at your pic again and your trunion springs are gone. I mean not there.
somebody put two bolts in it to get by. You've got some trunion work to do.

Yeah I seen while reading up on them. Plan is to cut a new plate to weld on the arm and order new springs. I got a CnC plasma table so making a plate will take 2min. So shouldn't be that big a deal.

I got the front cleaned and painted.. I painted the motor as well. Also removed head to de-carbon it, looked like it been apart before had wrong spark plug as well.

I still have to pull the steering to fix it as well as the console. Hope to wrap whole thing up next week save for the deck. Might be a while on it as its missing parts and have to make others.

I'll get some picture of the progress tomorrow.

You've been busy! Looking forward to your pics.

Added some pictures. Spray painted the motor. The Head is just sitting on it waiting on a gasket. And yes that is a pipe 90* being used as exhaust its on there and owner was OK with using it.

It had wrong spark plug. Also the coil was a 6v coil and it was cracked so got the correct 12vcoil, need to check/replace points.

Waiting on powder to come in to finish the motor up as well as the sheet metal, so hope to wrap the rolling resto up next couple of weeks and give it back to the customer. Depends on how the deck restore goes.

Here you go

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Cadet-Dr...oAAOSwU-pXrQoK

Put a proper tunnel on there :)

That link does not have the proper coil for your machine.... that's an LS motor swap to older cars site. So.... unless your putting an LS in that thing, I hope you didn't order a coil from them.


So Bo, what kind of shop do you run?

Interesting someone hired you to "restore" a Cub Cadet with such little knowledge about them. :bigthink:

Lol sorry was posting on another site and guess that link got left in that post when I edited it.


I own a business that does, CnC plasma coating, metal art, and powder coating. I worked as an FAA licensed A&P aircraft mechanic for 15 years before that. I been around IH's forever, just never tore into a cub before. I have a 1973 IH 1210 Travelette and a 1973 IH Scout II. The travelette is pulling my 55 chevy in the picture.

These are quite simple I have worked on 30 million dollar biz jets so a lawn tractor is pretty easy. :biggrin2: I know the owner done work for him before on some of his other stuff namely LS stuff. But he got this in a inheritance from an uncle. I actually really like it so I may end up with it. If not then I might just look for one of my own.

Oh wow thanks.


EDIT: I need to make a list of stuff I need to get for it. The biggest is the Deck is missing the grass blade guards. Based on the IPC they bolted on. I'll have to get he CC part number off parts tree. I can make them easy enough again just depends on prices of used stuff ect.

I have to say, I'd like to see more pics of you Travelette. Looks pretty sweet! You should post some up in the General talk section!

While I agree, that working on a GT is far from a $30M jet, there is still a lot to learn. Also, an air cooled Kohler, while it is a simple engine, doesn't rebuild the same way as a Chevy 350. Welcome to the forum, and I encourage you to seek advice, and pay attention. We are here to help, but do get kind of offended if our advice is ignored, or falls on deaf ears... Ok, so that's me, but whatever. Welcome to the forum! :beerchug:

Thanks! I am actually hooked now. So might sell the lawn mower I have and look for a 149 or dare I say 169...:bigeyes:

Cubs are pretty scarce in Arkansas aren't they? 169's are hard to find, let alone in a Cub "poor" state..... :bigthink: You'd likely have to ship one in, or drive... Depending where you are, it may not be that tall of an order... :biggrin2:

You maybe right. This one came from TX. I will keep my eye's peeled now. Not opposed to go pick one up. I got a VW TDI good gas getter that gets 50mpg and has a hitch.:beerchug: So be nothing to go pick one up that wasn't to far away.

[QUOTE=Bo185;386993 I got a VW TDI good gas getter that gets 50mpg and has a hitch.[/QUOTE]

And are also not known for their super great tranny. Personally, I wouldn't pull a trailer with a VW. Price the trans.... :bigeyes::bigeyes:

Unless it's a manual trans, then it's cool. :ThumbsUp:

Its a 5 speed. The autos are garbage. I added a taller .65 5th gear to it as well. Has a VR6 clutch and solid mass flywheel. It still tows fine. It tows just fine got a 4x8 trailer. Hauls my lawn mower (nothing special) and parts etc that I powder coat. Use to use it to deliver LS motors back years ago a when I was selling them.

I'm really starting to like you...... :biggrin2:

Little up date been waiting on parts and working on it between other jobs. Got the head back on and got the covers powder coated and back on.

Also go a new muffler for pretty cheap.

Again this isn't a 100% resto but will look decent when done and should still work hard.


http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_1007.jpg

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_1009.jpg

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_1008.jpg

Also ended up getting the correct driveshaft cover as well. Ended up being $35 shipped so not to bad I would have had at least that in labor for fixing the welds on the homemade one.

Your tin is back-a$$wards, looks like, should look like .....
The high piece in your picture goes under the big rear shroud,
the thick muffler support goes on last, but nice job so far.....

I just set it on the motor really, as I was powder coating the bolts for the shrouds so I could finish install. Thank you for the pictures to show how things go.

Your 149 is looking good!

Its a customers, but now I want one. :beerchug:

Sorry about that! You do nice work!

Thanks! I hated not being able to tear it completely down. But he has a budget to work with.

Going to start on the 42'' mower deck rebuild it needs a few parts to say the least. And its missing the ID tag.

The blades measure 42''. Its missing some things but I tried looking up on parts tree and couldn't find it for some reason and don't know the model number. I found some like it one here and found a manual. Here are the pictures.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_1011.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_1010.jpg



I'll need blades and might have to rebuild the center spindle. I'll make new grass baffles and the end cap.

But will need pulley covers as well as the deck guides on the ends. I figure I can make the brackets for the back wheels as well. I could make the pulley covers but just depends on the the prices as with out having one to copy it would take WAY longer to make.

Going to make a want ad but here is whats needed.
This is just a deck I found from a member here whilst searching. I need the items circled in red. The orange I need to if the price is right.
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq224/Bo185/deck.jpg

Looking good.

Try using the parts lookup directly on cubcadet.com

The easiest way I've found to get attachments, is to look up the model number, on the main page, then it will have to pick the assembly, there is usually an attachments folder that will get you to the attachments available for that model.

Here is a link to the one of the 3 42" decks they came with, depending on year of manufacture. From this link there should be a drop down that says "Assembly" right above the new model button. You can choose other decks there.

http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/AR...______________

Anytime! I definitely understand the budget. :beerchug:

Got some leads on deck parts from a member here.

Got the deck stripped. The deck itself is pretty good shape some surface rust nothing to deep. I have to make the grass baffles. Cast iron nose has a chipped place on bottom but its hard to see with the roller anyway owner was ok with it.

The spindles aren't in the best shape they all spin but will need cleaned up.