Painting IH red
 

What color primer do you all prefer to use under IH red paint? I've used light gray on some brackets and the red seems kind of pink?? to me. I was thinking maybe brown would be better. Your thoughts?

id go with a medium to dark gray, light gray is a pain to cover with red.

:Morning: The paint expert at the local Napa store, suggested using flat white primer. When covering with red, or any other bright color. He stated that sunshine/light will go thru the color and reflect off the white. Making the color brighter. I am about ready to paint my 656 Wheel Horse. I am going to try his method. :American Flag 1:

as a professional painter i can tell you that's a horrible idea, it will take a lot of coats to cover white with red and it will still have a pink look in the sun. you do what you want but if that guys such an expert then whys he working at a parts store?

I'd go with the gray primer or a red tinted primer. Ih used yellow primer on their tractors. I used some yellow primer on the yellow parts on my 1200.

Olds45512 - so what color primer would you recommend?

Olds already answer you on post #2 of this thread.

I'm no professional like he his and he can correct me if I'm wrong.

It's all depends on the shade of color you want, you get better result using a primer having the same shade (Light/medium/dark), I have some flat black primer left and try it has a base coat for some yellow cub parts lately and the result was good!

the entire painting industry has started using shades of gray for sealer, we have white and black and mix it to the desired shade that will give the paint the best coverage. believe it or not, red paint doesn't cover red primer very well but it will cover the proper shade of gray with ease. for the IH red id recommend something around the charcoal or dark charcoal, if the primer is to light it will either take a lot of coats to cover or it will look good inside but pink outside in the sun.


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Thank you Olds. That dark charcoal should yield a nice deep red color in bright sunlight. I'm just a amateur painter but I didn't want a pink tractor.

We painted a IH 140 tractor many years ago and used gray primer--BIG MISTAKE. We had removed several pcs for cleaning and mechanical repairs prior to painting. Used rattle can gray for primer. It was very hard to get all the primer covered with the tractor assembled. If we weren't real careful we would get drips and runs. I had to specifically paint thin coats on those pcs, which was hard since you couldn't really get the gun close enough to target those areas. I was especially glad when the last gun of paint went on that machine. Seems we were constantly going over it with a drop-light looking for areas that didn't cover.:BlahBlah::BlahBlah:

Just saw Tims chart, I'll have to remember that if I ever paint anything else. Back then amateurs only got primer in light gray and red oxide. I believe I have seen 2 or 3 shades of gray even in rattle cans these days.

I used a light-med gray primer on my 129/149.

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Cool, I learned something today.

So, do I ask the paint mixer fella at my local PPG store for a certain color?

When they get me primer from the shelf it is always the same shade of gray. They probably have a dumb a$$ home owner shelf in the back for guys like me.

Tim, how about the other colors we spray?

I just shot some wheels with the correct code of white but it doesn't look correct. It is too white. Is that because I used the standard gray primer?

Boy that Kohler looks sharp!

:Morning: I painted the engine tins using that method and you can set them in the sunlight and there is no pink hue, just bright red. As far as the expert. Hes been doing it for 30yrs. This particular Napa store, has the most elaborate paint system in the area and supplies over half the paint&body shops, plus dealers in the area. I know of two hot rod shops that use this store for custom paint mix. So he must be something right. You stated that you are a professional painter, of what? Just curious. :American Flag 1:

We have a full collision shop and we also restore vintage Ford tractors, I do all the paint and bodywork for both. I've been painting about 18yrs and I'm certified from ppg, DuPont, Akzo Nobel and pretty soon I might be certified from valspar.

:Morning: I seen some beautiful 2ns, 8ns and 9ns at some shows I go to. Maybe you done one of them. Good luck on your Valspar certification. :American Flag 1:

Here's one I'm putting the finishing touches on.

Agree with the gray primer. I've painted both a 70 and a 129 using different color primers. Not by choice but I needed to use it up. The primer I used was made by Awlgrip. It's a good epoxy primer used for painting boats but also works perfectly well on metal. Unlike auto-primers, the Awlgrip is also a filler primer and fills voids neccessly. The 70 parts where painted with the white primer simply because I had it and needed to use it up. Once on, it's hard to see any problem area's which need to be filled. In contrast, they grey primer is wonderful because it shows not only the area's that need to be filled, but when applying the top coat, it's easy to see area's that haven't been painted yet.
From my understanding, high price auto paint shops use a black masking paint over any body repair and prior to any top coat. Once sanded out, any holes will stand out that haven't been filled with any body filler, but heck this is only a tractor and not a show car.

:Morning: Great job, it looks better than when it rolled of the factory line. :American Flag 1:

I've had good luck with grey primer.