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JRoberts 07-27-2016 10:25 PM

Rear hydraulics
 
Can I put a pump on the back side of my hydro on a 149 For rear hydraulics. Thought I seen a post where people installed one but wasn't sure the kind of pumps they installed. Would like to make trailer with dump hydraulics or foe use on other implements.

olds45512 07-27-2016 10:34 PM

you dont need another pump, you need to replace the 1 spool valve with a 2 spool valve which will allow you to have either front or rear ports or both.

JRoberts 07-28-2016 07:38 PM

Does anyone know where the post is about different uses for the shaft out the back side of the hydro?

Where can I get a 2 to replace the 1?

olds45512 07-28-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JRoberts (Post 385006)
Does anyone know where the post is about different uses for the shaft out the back side of the hydro?

Where can I get a 2 to replace the 1?

That shaft is basically worthless unless you have a super with a rear pto. You can get a cub 2 spool valve off eBay or from the sponsors but there kinda pricey, I'm in the process of putting an h2 valve from a John Deere in my 1211. The cub valves sell for $200 and up but I got the jd valve for $45 off eBay. Here's a link to my thread, I just need to make the levers and find time to get to the hose shop and it will be done.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=44865

Rescue11 07-28-2016 09:21 PM

I am also curious as to how 1 would put hydraulic outlets on the BACK of a cub cadet:bigthink:

J-Mech 07-28-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rescue11 (Post 385026)
I am also curious as to how 1 would put hydraulic outlets on the BACK of a cub cadet:bigthink:

Your joking right......:bigthink:

JRoberts 07-28-2016 10:06 PM

Def not joking. Seen a post a whole back where someone put a pump on there. The original post was about someone using it as a pto.

JRoberts 07-28-2016 10:08 PM

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Here is the picture

J-Mech 07-28-2016 10:10 PM

Is that from this site??

Looks like a giant C.F. :bigthink:

Doesn't look to me like, whoever he is, is using it for a rear PTO. Looks like he used it for the lift cylinder. But I'm not sure what all the hoses are for. There is obviously stuff missing from the pic, but the way it appears to be plumbed, it won't work anyway.

JRoberts 07-28-2016 10:15 PM

That's what I was wanting a lift cylinder, nothing with pto.

J-Mech 07-28-2016 10:23 PM

A 149 already has hydraulic lift.... YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER PUMP.:bash2:

olds45512 07-28-2016 11:43 PM

how about we try a more constructive approach. the pic you posted is of a narrow frame cub which wasn't available with a ported pump and hydraulic lift, they added that pump to add hydraulic lift to a tractor that never had it. your tractor already has hydraulic lift and a ported pump so there is no need to add a second pump, if you want to add front or rear ports you simply need to change the single spool valve to a double spool valve and run a few lines.

twoton 07-29-2016 05:37 AM

Follow along with what Tim's telling you. Get a valve like this;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOhn-Deere-3...YAAOSwyDxXgwj3

You will also need to make up a kit like this;

http://www.xtrememotorworks.com/Part.../CC-70-001.htm

But... If you're not familiar with the different hydraulic fittings you may be spending a bit of time (and money) swapping out different fittings to get it all to hook up right. You will also still need to fabricate control levers for the valve. It's not really that hard, just plumbing.

Good luck.:beerchug:

MikeMasheris 07-29-2016 04:32 PM

Tee off the lines on the valve for the front outlets.You wont use both at the same time so it id doable.Check the thread I had on customized tractors under Mini Super

olds45512 07-29-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMasheris (Post 385129)
Tee off the lines on the valve for the front outlets.You wont use both at the same time so it id doable.Check the thread I had on customized tractors under Mini Super

He has a 149 so he doesn't have front ports to tee off of.

RLause 07-29-2016 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoton (Post 385057)
Follow along with what Tim's telling you. Get a valve like this;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOhn-Deere-3...YAAOSwyDxXgwj3

You will also need to make up a kit like this;

http://www.xtrememotorworks.com/Part.../CC-70-001.htm

But... If you're not familiar with the different hydraulic fittings you may be spending a bit of time (and money) swapping out different fittings to get it all to hook up right. You will also still need to fabricate control levers for the valve. It's not really that hard, just plumbing.

Good luck.:beerchug:

Here is a better deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Deere-3...3D272303582019

Rescue11 07-29-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 385131)
He has a 149 so he doesn't have front ports to tee off of.

if he didnt care about his tractor lift moving, he technically could do that...

JRoberts 07-29-2016 08:25 PM

Thanks for the I put guys. I know my 149 has pump. Was wanting to do something in regards to an implement of some sort. In process of making wagon but also thought about making a cart with hydraulic pump and thought was the reasoning behind adding that extra pump. I'll check into the other since everyone is stating the same thing

darkminion_17 07-29-2016 08:40 PM

Those are good deals,you still have to make sure though that there is no dirt in those exposed ports before you hook it up.

ironman 07-30-2016 07:50 AM

I hope I'm not hijacking the OP's thread but maybe my question will help him too.

I have no personal plans to add hydraulic ports to anything in my fleet but threads such as this one always interest me because I am pretty ignorant in the plumbing and terminology on this subject and hope to learn something.

I was curious if anyone is aware of any simplified drawings (schematics so to speak) of the lines and valves of these setups that would give a novice like me a better understanding. I'm speaking of something along the lines of the great electrical and other drawings that R Bedell takes the time to create and put in the tech library.

Thanks in advance to any guidance.

J-Mech 07-30-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 385194)
I was curious if anyone is aware of any simplified drawings (schematics so to speak) of the lines and valves of these setups that would give a novice like me a better understanding. I'm speaking of something along the lines of the great electrical and other drawings that R Bedell takes the time to create and put in the tech library.

They're in the service manual. But you have to know hydraulic schematics. It's not like Roland makes, where anyone can totally understand it. But it is in the manual. Just like most ALL the information people seek to know.

Shotgun Wedding 07-30-2016 08:54 PM

By capitalizing ALL, is that a backhanded way of saying to most people who come on to this site for help, to just shut up and read the manual? Be cause if it's ALL in the manual, why come here at all?

J-Mech 07-31-2016 12:18 AM

No, that's absurd! A good portion of the manuals are available free on this site! Where else would you get such valuable information for free?? :biggrin2:


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