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CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 06:35 PM

1872 just brought home
 
I picked up a local 1872 this morning. They seem to never show up less than 3-4 hours so when Todd posted this one in the EBay/Craigslist section, I jumped on it. I was the first to call and he lives in Nashville we played phone tag this week. I was not sure it was going to go through but it did. It was 30 miles from me.

So far it needs the fuel system cleaned, it seems to be running lean. It got hot fast with just running no load on a fast idle. The next problem I found and I saw it when I bought it, was the drive line. There is a wobble at the back. I just found that it at the rear coupling where it connects to the input shaft. I am in the process of trying to get it apart. I hope there is not much damage to the input shaft. I will post some pictures in a few minutes. Thanks in advance for the help I might need.

RedOnes 07-16-2016 06:55 PM

Well, the 1872 is nice tractor but that driveline worries me. I recently bought an 1872 hydro pump and coupling on ebay for about $400 with shipping. So good luck with that..:beerchug:

CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 07:03 PM

It bothers me as well. I have a spare hydro, I just wasn't planning on needing it so soon.

J-Mech 07-16-2016 07:09 PM

Pretty sure JeffinPa makes those couplers. PM him. They won't cost you $400.

CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 383539)
Pretty sure JeffinPa makes those couplers. PM him. They won't cost you $400.

Yep, I was thinking he made some that have more meat in the back if the shaft is worn too bad.

I will pm him, when I get it disassembled.

RedOnes 07-16-2016 07:28 PM

I was lucky to buy an 1872 hydro shaft only from a member here for $40. Need to rebuild my old hydro someday..:beerchug:

Alvy 07-16-2016 07:45 PM

Looking like you did great still even if those issues are a little spendy. You got one heck of a super. Good job getting it and thanks to Todd for the assist.

CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 08:05 PM

I did Ok, I will still be good. I was planning maybe selling this one., but we will see. I hate to sell them, it is a lot more fun buying them.

Sam Mac 07-16-2016 08:08 PM

Allen Cecil has a new rear coupler for sale.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=44686

Sam Mac 07-16-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CubDieselFan (Post 383537)
It bothers me as well. I have a spare hydro, I just wasn't planning on needing it so soon.

Super Hydros have a different output shaft from the GT hydros so keep that in mind.

CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 383549)
Super Hydros have a different output shaft from the GT hydros so keep that in mind.

Yes, the one I bought was from a 1872, but it needs to be resealed before I use it. My plan is to have one on the shelf, resealed and ready to go, but I am not there yet.

CubDieselFan 07-16-2016 09:34 PM

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Here are a couple of pictures when I got started working on her.

ACecil 07-16-2016 10:09 PM

Congrats on your 1872! As Sam said, I have a rear coupler. I will make you a deal on, if you're interested.

Cub Cadet 123 07-17-2016 02:05 AM

Congratulations on your 1872!! Kind of nice having them somewhat close to you, especially if it does not happen very often. A seat with armrests will make the ride all the more sweet!!!:beerchug:

Cub Cadet 123

CubDieselFan 07-17-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123 (Post 383581)
Congratulations on your 1872!! Kind of nice having them somewhat close to you, especially if it does not happen very often. A seat with armrests will make the ride all the more sweet!!!:beerchug:

Cub Cadet 123

The seat with arm rests was nice. I only drove it a short distance, but the arm rest made it so much more comfortable. Just the way the seat is made looks like it was a little pricy when it was new.

CubDieselFan 07-17-2016 05:39 PM

I have never removed the pin in the input shaft before. I have looked at the service manual and it does not look difficult. I do not want to mess anything up, so what is some tips y'all have? I had to order a new set of punches, as mine have disappeared.

RedOnes 07-17-2016 06:02 PM

well, the manual says to use a jack to put support behind the shaft before pounding the pin out ..depends on how much force it takes to move the pin. :beerchug:

use a small ball peen hammer instead of a sledge hammer ..with light taps..

jaynjeep 07-17-2016 06:21 PM

I'm glad you got it!!:biggrin2::biggrin2:

Cause I sure was eyeballing it hard when Todd posted it!:beerchug::beerchug:

CubDieselFan 07-17-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jaynjeep (Post 383672)
I'm glad you got it!!:biggrin2::biggrin2:

Cause I sure was eyeballing it hard when Todd posted it!:beerchug::beerchug:

He got several calls on it and I called first so he let me have first chance at it.

CubDieselFan 07-18-2016 11:36 AM

Does anyone have a lead on the spiral pins? I have searched the forum and cannot find where they can be purchased.

RedOnes 07-18-2016 01:49 PM

here`s 1 place..
http://ihccw.com/drive.html

Cub cadet 1872
spirol pins
915-0125 (715-3005) 3/8-1/3/4
715-3004 1/8-1.125

CubDieselFan 07-18-2016 04:49 PM

I found these on McMaster Carr's website. Has anyone else used these? Looks like they will work.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91598A262

RedOnes 07-18-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CubDieselFan (Post 383793)
I found these on McMaster Carr's website. Has anyone else used these? Looks like they will work.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91598A262

wow..I never have but looks good to me..just cant believe it`s .09 apiece compared to $4.00 apiece on cub sites. :biggrin2:
They also have those in Extra strength steel and stainless. Quite a selection.

OldSkull 07-19-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CubDieselFan (Post 383793)
I found these on McMaster Carr's website. Has anyone else used these? Looks like they will work.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91598A262

Where do you think they take the expensive one they sold you? McMaster is the place of choice for any kind of fastener, you only need to know how to "surf" their gigantic catalog.

CubDieselFan 07-19-2016 02:26 PM

I did not buy the 4.00 ones. I am going to get a bag from McMaster Carr. :biggrin2:

RedOnes 07-19-2016 02:47 PM

I like to support Cub dealers and in particular our sponsors but that price difference is ridiculous. I checked the shear strength of the expensive brand name SPIROL standard duty pins and they are also 1400 lbs. like these generic coiled pins ..

CubDieselFan 07-22-2016 11:25 PM

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I bought NOS coupling from a member and got it today. Here is a picture. Should it have the brass bushing in th place of the nylon looking bushing? I do not have to old one off yet, I am going to tackle that in the morning.

CubDieselFan 07-23-2016 12:06 AM

I just went and looked on mine. I could see enough of the brass bushing to know this one will not work without modification.

J-Mech 07-23-2016 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RedOnes (Post 383901)
I checked the shear strength of the expensive brand name SPIROL standard duty pins and they are also 1400 lbs. like these generic coiled pins ..

They aren't "generic". McMaster Carr is "THE" place for industrial hardware. Supplying machine/mechanic shops since the early 1900's. (Founded in 1901.)

Yes, lots of members here use them instead of getting them from CCC.


The driveshaft should have a ball bushing in it. You can also source those from places other than CCC. You can buy them direct from Triangle MFG, the people who make them for CCC:

http://www.triangleoshkosh.com/produ.../ball-bushings

Oak 07-23-2016 08:59 AM

I never seen one like that. J-Mech is correct it should have the brass ball bushing in it. If you go to the Triangle MFG site look up part# HE1410P. That is the one you need. They have a minimum order and I think I get around 35 at a time when I do. In fact, I'm getting a little low and need to place another order soon. I think I have around 10 left so PM me your address and I'll send you one for free.

Sam Mac 07-23-2016 09:10 AM

I wonder if MTD as they have been known to do went to plastic to replace the ball just to save a few cents. :bigthink:

CubDieselFan 07-23-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 384343)
I wonder if MTD as they have been known to do went to plastic to replace the ball just to save a few cents. :bigthink:

I am not sure, but it would not surprise me. I am going to take out the plastic and install the correct bronze bushing.

Sam Mac 07-23-2016 10:15 AM

If it was me as long as the ID in the plastic is the same as the OD on the shaft I'd give it a try.

Oak 07-23-2016 10:48 AM

Just dropped 2 of at the Post Office and they say you should have them on Monday.:beerchug:

CubDieselFan 07-23-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 384355)
If it was me as long as the ID in the plastic is the same as the OD on the shaft I'd give it a try.

I have not done a test fit yet, but I will see.

CubDieselFan 07-23-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 384361)
Just dropped 2 of at the Post Office and they say you should have them on Monday.:beerchug:

Thanks, Todd, I own you, 2 times. :biggrin2:

CubDieselFan 07-23-2016 02:31 PM

I got the coupler off, it is shot. The new one fits sung. I just checked the driveshaft fitment to the new coupler and it is too loose. The bushing has to come out and the correct on installed.

Another question, the spiral pin broke off inside the shaft. What is the easiest way to remove the rest. I am thinking use a small drill bit and then a small punch. What have y'all used?

scarps68 07-23-2016 03:22 PM

I recently replaced the shaft and couplers on my 882. I highly recommend the punch that McMaster sells. $10

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pin-punches/=13esbt6

ol'George 07-23-2016 03:51 PM

You will just break the drill, use a punch of the proper size and move on.:beerchug:

Sam Mac 07-23-2016 04:07 PM

Support the shaft before you go and beat on it.


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