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RLause

03-28-2016 08:53 PM

IH, helping the war effort in 1942

I found this picture while surfing.

http://www.shorpy.com/node/3549?size=_original#caption

I thought it was a rather cool picture. The site has many more neat shots.

longislandcubs

03-28-2016 08:59 PM

Great picture, thanks for sharing it.

olds45512

03-28-2016 08:59 PM

That's a cool pic, that tractor is pretty new and look how bald the front tires are.

J-Mech

03-28-2016 09:30 PM

I'm skeptical of the authenticity of the pic.....

That appears to be an IH I-4 which was basically an industrial version of the W-4. It would have been painted yellow, not red. In 1942, they didn't have color photos.... and I've seen black and white colored photos... that one appears to have been taken in color. The hood is a much different color than the frame, and the muffler is awfully rusty and the front tires pretty bald and the paint on the frame and front axle is pretty faded for a no more than two year old tractor. If you zoom in on the pic, you can't tell any color lines where the photo has been colored. Plus, the dungarees the guy bending down next to the tire is wearing look pretty modern.

I say it's staged. :bigthink:

DoubleO7

03-28-2016 09:54 PM

It appears to have an I4 decal on it.

It is not a colorized black and white picture.
They did indeed have color film back then.
Especially the war department.

And if it is an early production I4 sometime in 1940, it could be over two years old by the time that picture was taken.
Zipping around 50% all day seven days a week on new not yet worn concrete the tires of the time would not last long, especially the fronts.

And they apparently came in red too:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100626213500

ken746

03-28-2016 09:57 PM

My dad was an airline and Air force mechanic. He had to have metal wheels on his tool box because the fuel would eat up rubber. Those tires are melted.

Billy-O

03-28-2016 09:58 PM

I'll say it's a genuine photo... go look up "Alfred Palmer for the Office of War Information" and you'll get many more color photos going back to 1942 and maybe earlier.

Love the tread pattern on the rear tires!

J-Mech

03-28-2016 10:25 PM

I'm not convinced. All the pics I find from that era are way more grainy than that one.

I digress. Just lots of things don't seem to add up to me. Maybe it is real, maybe it is staged. Still a cool pic.

RLause

03-28-2016 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 369439)

The film was 4" x 5" Kodachrome, so the resolution is super. The site has may pictures taken on 8 x 10 glass negatives.

Kodachrome is a brand name for a non-substantive, color reversal film introduced by Eastman Kodak in 1935

drglinski

03-29-2016 09:33 PM

There are an awful lot of B 17s to the left in that picture, so I'm saying it's legit.

Shotgun Wedding

03-29-2016 10:05 PM

The pic is legit. The photographer Alfred Palmer is pretty famous for his wartime photos. It's the real deal. It looks faked because he was wayyyyy ahead of his time with light and shadow.

darkminion_17

03-29-2016 10:38 PM

there are also no contrails in the sky...

C&O2-10-4

03-29-2016 10:47 PM

I've seen 8 X10 Kodachrome (color) transparencies that were taken by ( THE Baldwin Locomotive Works and also The American Locomotive Works ) in that time frame, and the quality is EXCELLANT ! Ektachrome; not so much !
It's the real deal.

C&O2-10-4:beerchug:

drglinski

03-31-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 369569)

there are also no contrails in the sky...

I bet that's neat/weird to see. I've only lived in the jet age.

ol'George

03-31-2016 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski (Post 369894)

I bet that's neat/weird to see. I've only lived in the jet age.

you should be able to see the yankee warrior( B-25) fly over as you are not that far from WillowRun /yankee air museum :beerchug:
I've rubbed some polish on her a time or two, on polish day:beerchug:

jaynjeep

04-01-2016 12:07 AM

Cool Picture!! Whether its real or not I like it!! :beerchug::beerchug:

Thanks for sharing!! :American Flag 1:

ACecil

04-01-2016 12:00 PM

Awesome pic!

finsruskw

04-01-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski (Post 369557)

There are an awful lot of B 17s to the left in that picture, so I'm saying it's legit.

B-17's???
they all look to be 25's from where I sit.

64fleetside

04-01-2016 04:40 PM

Showing my age here but there was a song about Kodachrome --it was so clear. Mama dont take my Kodachrome away.....give me the nice bright colors...

ol'George

04-01-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 64fleetside (Post 369972)

Showing my age here but there was a song about Kodachrome --it was so clear. Mama dont take my Kodachrome away.....give me the nice bright colors...

and a nice tune, not so long ago, still hear it occasionally:beerchug:

Shotgun Wedding

04-01-2016 06:31 PM

Paul Simon...before Graceland which was an awesome album on vinyl.

ol'George

04-01-2016 06:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpaNJqF4po

olds45512

04-01-2016 08:03 PM

For the older crowd the song has changed, now it goes "if you took all the girls I knew when I had shingles" :ROTF1:

drglinski

04-01-2016 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 369955)

B-17's???
they all look to be 25's from where I sit.

:Duh: I knew that. The caption even says that.

drglinski

04-01-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 369904)

you should be able to see the yankee warrior( B-25) fly over as you are not that far from WillowRun /yankee air museum :beerchug:
I've rubbed some polish on her a time or two, on polish day:beerchug:

Occasionally during the summer I've seen both fly over my house. Normally the sound gives them away.

ol'George

04-01-2016 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski (Post 369997)

Occasionally during the summer I've seen both fly over my house. Normally the sound gives them away.

Ya takes me back when I was a kid and piston planes and steam trains were around.
The old girls have a sound all of heir own! glad some of our heritage lives on.

http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/docum..._April2016.pdf

Sprint60

04-02-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski (Post 369997)

Occasionally during the summer I've seen both fly over my house. Normally the sound gives them away.

Know that feeling - there's a Lockheed Constellation preserved near here by the Save A Connie foundation. Not too many left. It used to be displayed prominently at the Kansas City Downtown airport, but now it has a place indoors. Occasionally we would see it flying (it hasn't flown for a decade or more now). It flew over the house once not long after we were married and I shouted "It's that Connie!" and ran out to see it. It flew right over! After coming back in, huge smile painted on, she wanted to know how I knew what it was. "Nothing else sounds like four 18-cylinder radials!"

drglinski

04-02-2016 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprint60 (Post 370056)

I think that the photo posted would have to be a pretty elaborate hoax or stage. What makes it for me is what looks like a rag-top 40's vintage car parked 'way off in the distance to the left. Stage photos rarely include that kind of detail. I guess someone could photo-shop the lines of aircraft, but it doesn't look like a PS job to me.

Know that feeling - there's a Lockheed Constellation preserved near here by the Save A Connie foundation. Not too many left. It used to be displayed prominently at the Kansas City Downtown airport, but now it has a place indoors. Occasionally we would see it flying (it hasn't flown for a decade or more now). It flew over the house once not long after we were married and I shouted "It's that Connie!" and ran out to see it. It flew right over! After coming back in, huge smile painted on, she wanted to know how I knew what it was. "Nothing else sounds like four 18-cylinder radials!"

Yeah people in my neighborhood think I´ḿ strange when I see one of them fly over and I´m pointing at the sky and making a ruckus.

ol'George

04-02-2016 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski (Post 370141)

Yeah people in my neighborhood think I´ḿ strange when I see one of them fly over and I´m pointing at the sky and making a ruckus.

It raises the hair on my arms when they fly over and if I have to explain that ppl would not understand. :beerchug:

finsruskw

04-03-2016 10:25 AM

You guys have probably seen this before...
I would have loved to have heard that in person!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G93y2aUsnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGjyH2ulsCk

I got a copy of the movie last fall and it is a great one.
Read up on the history of this bomber, quite impressive.
I was 11 years old at the time and in love!!
With airplanes AND JUNE !

RLause

04-03-2016 01:18 PM

For all you photography enthusiasts out there, here is the home page of the site. It has many interesting pictures.
http://www.shorpy.com/

This is a picture I think is real neat. Being this is from my hometown, before my time, I find it enjoyable. It was put together from five 8 x10 negatives. Some of the buildings are still in use.

Toledo panorama
http://www.shorpy.com/node/11519

Enjoy.

ol'George

04-03-2016 01:44 PM

Yep Toledo, we gave it to ohio in exchange for the upper peninsula :biggrin2:

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