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Bob95065 02-06-2016 11:45 PM

Tires for 1450 - setting up for tilling
 
I have a 1450 that came with a #2 tiller that I want to get ready to till up a garden for my wife. The tractor has original tires that sat out in the weather for decades. They are dry-rotted and don't hold air.

I want to put a set of lug tires on the rear and tri rib tires up front. I have some questions:

For the rear tires: I am looking at a set of Deestone 23x10.5-12 tires http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-23X10-50-1...QAAMXQMTlRbHdk Will they fit under the fenders?

Should I go with 6 ply or 4 ply tires? Which would be better and why?

What size tires will fit the rims on my 1450? The original tires are 16x6.8-8. Any suggestions for tires?

Thanks,

Bob

olds45512 02-06-2016 11:57 PM

the 10.50's will fit under the fender but i beleive the stock size is 8.50 so the rim width wouldnt be ideal, the front tires will be 16x6.50-8 but the only tri ribs available in that size are firestones and there $70 each. i suggest you take a look at these as a cheaper alternative http://www.millertire.com/products/i...70-60-8-6-ply/ many members have them and say there great.

Cubcrazy 02-07-2016 08:28 AM

Stock rears on a 1450 are 23 x 10.50 -12.

barkerwc4362 02-07-2016 08:33 AM

Vredesteins
 
I run the Vredesteins on the front of my 332 with Firestones on the back. You can't go wrong with the Vredesteins. They give great flotation and I have no problems turning. The 332 does however have power steering. The Vredesteins give it that "big" tractor look that I remember as a kid (long time ago) plowing with a 966 International.

Bill

mickb72 02-07-2016 08:37 AM

cub
 
Deestone tires are under sized compared to other brands. a 10.50 tire is slightly bigger than a 8.50 of another brand. Check around on the web, there's a lot of people that have said this. Mike

R Bedell 02-07-2016 09:40 AM

Quote:

front of my 332
What is a 332....????:bigeyes:

Bob95065 02-07-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mickb72 (Post 362871)
Deestone tires are under sized compared to other brands. a 10.50 tire is slightly bigger than a 8.50 of another brand. Check around on the web, there's a lot of people that have said this. Mike

When you say that they are undersized do you you mean the width or diameter?

Thanks for all the suggestions. Are there any other alternatives I should look at?

64fleetside 02-07-2016 09:57 AM

Cant beat the Deestones on price, $130 a pair at my local tire store. They are a little shorter than others.

Sam Mac 02-07-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 362886)
What is a 332....????:bigeyes:

JD332 is a Diesel GT

Bob95065 02-07-2016 10:33 AM

Am I better off with 4 ply or 6 ply tires?

Merk 02-07-2016 10:46 AM

I have an IH Cub Cadet 128 with a #2 tiller. I have a good set of original 16 X 6.50-8 front tires on it.
I have a set of this style from my 149
http://www.millertire.com/products/l...f-saver-4-ply/

The tires from 149 steer better.

I have a 2 sets of this style tire.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...turftire02.jpg

One set is 23-10.50-12 and the other set is 23-8.50-12. I plan to use the 23-10.50 on my 128/tiller set up to help prevent soil compaction.

You do not need a 6 or 8 ply rear tire on your Cub Cadet. The higher the ply the harder they are to install. Look at the load rating on the sidewall. The 4 ply is more than enough to handle anything you put on your Cub Cadet.

I prefer 2 ply rating.

Bob95065 02-07-2016 03:22 PM

I also use the tractor with my rear scraper. The original turf tires spin pretty easy. I wanted to get lug tires to try and get some more use out of the scraper.

Bob95065 02-16-2016 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mickb72 (Post 362871)
Deestone tires are under sized compared to other brands. a 10.50 tire is slightly bigger than a 8.50 of another brand. Check around on the web, there's a lot of people that have said this. Mike

What is the biggest Desstone lug tire that will fit on a stock 1450?

R Bedell 02-16-2016 07:23 AM

The 1450 rolled out of the factory with:

Front: 16x6.50-8

Rear:23x10.50-12

Both were two ply rated.

Four ply would be more than adequate.

Six ply would be over kill and an extremely rough ride.

:IH Trusted Hand:

Bob95065 02-16-2016 10:18 AM

Thanks for the information Roland. The tires on my tractor match your data.

I hear that the Deestones run small. What's the largest Deestone lug tire that will go on my 1450?

R Bedell 02-16-2016 10:32 AM

I am NOT a fan of Deestone, in that they are made in China.

I prefer Firestone or Carlisle tires, in that, as far as I know, made here in the USA.

:American Flag 1:

Bob95065 02-16-2016 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 364173)
I am NOT a fan of Deestone, in that they are made in China.

I prefer Firestone or Carlisle tires, in that, as far as I know, made here in the USA.

:American Flag 1:

Do Carlisle tires run small too? Would I be better off with 10.5 or 8.5 wide ties for tilling?

R Bedell 02-16-2016 11:02 AM

I run the 10.50's on my 129, 1450, & 784. The float and grip is good. The only way I would consider the 8.50 is in the winter time for snow traction. Haven't gone that route yet. I run 10.50's with chains and have no problem(s). I like the Ag tires for mowing lawn in that one doesn't get "turf burn" from when turf tires slip and burn away the lawn. The only disadvantage that I see with Ag tires, if your lawn is "wet and soft" in the spring time, the tires can & do leave the "lug imprint" in the lawn. Usually that smooths out over the course of the summer.

:ThumbsUp:

Bob95065 02-16-2016 11:52 AM

I'll look for 10.5 tires. No snow in the California central coast.

zippy1 02-16-2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob95065 (Post 364176)
Do Carlisle tires run small too? Would I be better off with 10.5 or 8.5 wide ties for tilling?

No they do not. You get the size you order... I ordered a set of BKT Super Lug tires back when I redid my 100, and wasn't happy with them. They are considerable shorter than the Carlisle tire...
I know you were asking about the Deestone, but just thought I'd throw that out there...
On a tiller tractor, traction isn't a big deal because the tiller is pushing the tractor, not like with a moldboard plow where the tractor "needs" traction to pull...

Bob95065 02-16-2016 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 364267)
No they do not. You get the size you order... I ordered a set of BKT Super Lug tires back when I redid my 100, and wasn't happy with them. They are considerable shorter than the Carlisle tire...
I know you were asking about the Deestone, but just thought I'd throw that out there...
On a tiller tractor, traction isn't a big deal because the tiller is pushing the tractor, not like with a moldboard plow where the tractor "needs" traction to pull...

This post has changed my mind. I'm leaning toward the Carlisle tires. Made in the USA means something to me.

I want to use the box scraper with this tractor too so traction is an issue. I'm not worried about snow.

aagitch 02-17-2016 06:08 AM

I had a set of deestones on my 782 and didn't care for them much. They do run small both diameter and width. I prefer the Carlisle

zippy1 02-18-2016 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob95065 (Post 364270)
This post has changed my mind. I'm leaning toward the Carlisle tires. Made in the USA means something to me.

I want to use the box scraper with this tractor too so traction is an issue. I'm not worried about snow.

Glad to help spend your money:biggrin2: You won't be disappointed with the Carlisle. But shop around. I got my last pair from Amazon and saved a great deal with the free shipping...:beerchug:

yeeter 02-19-2016 09:29 PM

Tilling? Its February and you are thinking about tilling?

Thats like me, was working on my snowblower in July and worried it wasnt going to get done before snow...

R Bedell 02-20-2016 07:38 AM

Quote:

This post has changed my mind. I'm leaning toward the Carlisle tires. Made in the USA means something to me.
:IH Trusted Hand:

:American Flag 1:

Kylemcdaniel 03-30-2016 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 364173)
I am NOT a fan of Deestone, in that they are made in China.

I prefer Firestone or Carlisle tires, in that, as far as I know, made here in the USA.

:American Flag 1:

:American Flag 1::American Flag 1::American Flag 1::American Flag 1::American Flag 1:

Bob95065 03-31-2016 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by yeeter (Post 364632)
Tilling? Its February and you are thinking about tilling?

Thats like me, was working on my snowblower in July and worried it wasnt going to get done before snow...

Check out my location. I'm in Felton, CA which is on the north end of the Monterey Bay in Northern California. It's spring here and has been for weeks.

I tilled the garden last weekend and the #2 tiller worked great! I still have the original leaking, checked and dry-rotted tires on the 1450. I haven't used a tiller behind a CC before and I was impressed. My wife was too.

She says you should have your garden in by April 1st around here. I'm originally from Illinois and haven't planted a garden in years so I believe her. I'm used to getting it in sometime in May.


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