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ka9egw 09-24-2015 03:26 PM

Engine swap or snowblower swap?
 
So...I have an 1800-series hydro, to call it a beater would be charitable, with a kt-series twin that is on it's last legs...I bought this tractor for the big honking snowblower, I think it's by Danco or Haban--it's the one with aircraft cable to turn the chute.

How hard would it be to swap a k-series kohler into it? Or for that matter how hard would it be to modify my 108's frame to be able to mount that blower? Or is there just part of the snowblower mount needs changed? It looks like I would have to bore a 3/4 hole right through a weld on each side of the frame. The 108 isn't a museum piece, it's a working tractor...

Thanks,
Brian

R Bedell 09-24-2015 03:54 PM

The 1800 series Cubs rolled out of the Factory with a Kohler M-18 (Magnum). You must have some sort of transplant if you have a KT-17 in it. :bigeyes:

ka9egw 09-24-2015 04:05 PM

Not sure, it's a horizontal-crankshaft kohler opposed twin. Maybe it is an M18. Either way, it sounds like spontaneously disassembly is imminent--and my old 108 just keeps going and going and going...and I have a spare fresh rebuilt K301.
But these are working tractors; I guess what I'm asking is if it would be less fuss to put that snowblower on the 108 than it would be to do an engine swap on the 18xx...

olds45512 09-24-2015 04:18 PM

The 1210 came with a single cylinder Kohler and was basically the same tractor, I've never seen one in person to know how they did it but it would be possible provided the engine your using has an electronic PTO and flywheel starter.

ka9egw 09-24-2015 05:45 PM

After a fair bit of research, I conclude it's an 1811, with a red rattle-can paint job and hood labeling from a pack of peel-and-stick letters. I think I need to post my question over in the implements forum

Yosemite Sam 09-24-2015 10:56 PM

I think we're gonna need some pictures of this thrower/blower. Measuring across the front would also be helpful.

From your description it sounds like you have a CW 36 thrower, I could very well be mistaken but I know of no later model thrower or blower that uses a cable to rotate the chute.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Does your 108 have a creeper gear?

Cub Cadet 123 09-24-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 346593)
I think we're gonna need some pictures of this thrower/blower. Measuring across the front would also be helpful.

From your description it sounds like you have a CW 36 thrower, I could very well be mistaken but I know of no later model thrower or blower that uses a cable to rotate the chute.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Does your 108 have a creeper gear?

That sounds correct to me Mark, unless it is some off brand that we are unaware of. If you are going to put the snow thrower on the 108, then you probably would not want any thrower that is greater than 36". Your 108 has a 10 hp engine on it and would probably struggle to run a 42" snow thrower when the auger is full.

Cub Cadet 123

ka9egw 09-24-2015 11:25 PM

There's a CC label on it appears to read 1943581 cub cadet Cleveland. The telescoping driveshaft on the left side, is square.
I have the creeper for my 108 but haven't installed it yet.

ka9egw 09-24-2015 11:28 PM

When I bought my 108 [real cheap] it had a 7hp kohler in it. It now has a fresh K301 12hp...and I have a fresh 12hp spare, and a 16 or 18 cam somewhere...and a serious [Bridgeport] milling machine, but that begs a question for the kohler forum... :-)

ka9egw 09-24-2015 11:37 PM

OK I got a better pic of the label, how about 194353100...which would be a Haban H42? Square drive shaft, cable chute rotation, 3 bolts attaching the skid plates?

ka9egw 09-24-2015 11:51 PM

yep, I went to a different site and there is no doubt in my mind it's a Haban H42...can it mount on a 12-hp repowered 108 at all?

Cub Cadet 123 09-25-2015 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ka9egw (Post 346617)
yep, I went to a different site and there is no doubt in my mind it's a Haban H42...can it mount on a 12-hp repowered 108 at all?

Yes, your 12 hp should have no problem handling that 42" snow thrower, unless it is a wet, slushy snow. I believe Mark and I thought it was a cub cadet snow thrower and did not consider the Haban snow thrower.
As he mentioned, a creepy gear will help slow down the speed of your cub and improve the snow throwing experience by allowing the cub to creep and fill up the auger to throw the snow better.

Cub Cadet 123

ka9egw 09-25-2015 12:22 AM

The only downside is I don't see how I can put this on my 108 without butchery...

Yosemite Sam 09-25-2015 02:51 AM

Since you live in an area where you get a good share of snow, I would think that you are blessed with (at least) a couple of options.

You should be able to sell the blower that you have now for more than enough money to buy a QA 42A thrower for your 108.

Or you can make a mounting bracket with your mill to adapt the H42 to your 108.

Some of the other guys may have more or better ideas that will help get you fixed up.

j4c11 09-25-2015 09:07 AM

If you keep an eye on Craigslist you can probably find a replacement Magnum for around $200-$250. Something like a 1535 would make a great donor. Then you don't have to butcher anything.


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