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Superglyde 06-14-2015 02:28 PM

109 sluggish after 1 hour, vr overcharging coincidentally
 
So exactly at the same place in my yard the tractor runs sluggish on an incline that makes me work the hydro lever to tweak and keep from stopping. On the flats it's fine but noticeably rough. Also it appears the needle on the ammeter pegs out to the right.
Is it related and just a symptom of a worn out vr? It's the original and battery is new and starts like a champ.
Not sure if napa has the right vr with all that I've read about this topic and I loathe electrical issues.

REDDHOGG 06-14-2015 03:38 PM

V r should be 1118988 watch the terminals may be a little different

R Bedell 06-14-2015 03:44 PM

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So exactly at the same place in my yard the tractor runs sluggish on an incline that makes me work the hydro lever to tweak and keep from stopping. On the flats it's fine but noticeably rough.
Sounds like a fuel problem. It maybe time to pull the Carb and do a cleaning, rebuild and adjustments.

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Also it appears the needle on the ammeter pegs out to the right.
Is it related and just a symptom of a worn out vr?
NO....two seperate issues. Before you jump into replacing the V/R, check to make sure that the connections are correct as compared to the Wiring Diagram, clean and tight. In addition, make sure the V/R is properly grounded.

REDDHOGG 06-14-2015 06:59 PM

Could the over charge cause problems with coil or condenser over heating

R Bedell 06-14-2015 07:17 PM

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Could the over charge cause problems with coil or condenser over heating
Coil - Yes, Condenser - No. I see the OP makes no mention of these condition.

Billy-O 06-14-2015 07:37 PM

Makes me wonder if the coil shorting out being on the incline...... fluids within.

Superglyde 06-14-2015 08:52 PM

Other steeper inclines are fine in the first hour. The only other thing that hpens is that meter pegs out but is just right of center in the first hour

ol'George 06-14-2015 09:03 PM

Wondering if as previously posted, the coil is getting hot, shorting out and drawing more current, thus the additional amp charge on the amp meter.
Just a guess here.

darkminion_17 06-14-2015 09:09 PM

you may have a wire shorting out on the frame when you are on an incline.
check your wiring,BTDT

Superglyde 06-16-2015 09:25 PM

Just started it in the garage and it's pegged out on the charge o meter and don't want to ruin a brand new battery

darkminion_17 06-16-2015 10:49 PM

The place to look is where the wires for the v/r come from under the fender pan to the battery tray.I know the pos batt terminal has a plastic protector on the frame there.

Superglyde 06-20-2015 10:16 AM

I'm stumped. I checked the wires coming thru the pan .
It's still overcharging and pegged out
When off returns to center.
Battery is new and don't want to destroy it.

Alvy 06-20-2015 10:36 AM

Sounds to me like the "F" wire from V/R to starter generator F terminal is grounding and full fielding the generator. Need to verify charging voltage at battery, it's it's 15 or more volts with meter pegged you need to test continuity from that wire to ground with one of the ends of the wire isolated or disconnected. Disconnect F wire from s/g and run it, and if it returs to normal you have a short to ground on that wire or bad v/r. As Lew said, Wide frame wiring runs inside frame to under seat where v/r is located and sounds like it's being pinched somewhere but tests will show if it is or not

Superglyde 06-20-2015 03:22 PM

Ok I took the wire off the s/g and started it up
Meter dropped just under center.
Can I cut grass like that or am I getting spark from the battery only and will run it down?
I'm an electrical moron

ol'George 06-20-2015 03:42 PM

You can cut the grass, but the battery will run down eventually as nothing is charging it.

J-Mech 06-20-2015 04:10 PM

I see no mention anywhere in this thread of any "hard" numbers indicating an overcharge.... OP, have you put a multi-meter on the system and confirmed it is actually over charging??


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