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rbarri2 05-26-2015 03:45 PM

Need to confirm a bolt head size
 
I'm working on my 782's front grill and I need to remove the 4 12 point bolts that hold it to each side of the front frame at the bottom. I think I need a 9/32" 12 point. Can anyone confirm so that I can order the correct socket?

thanks

Roy Najecki 05-26-2015 04:36 PM

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I just checked mine and the grill housing (tag 1 in the illustration) is held on by four six-point 5/16" bolts and a 1/2" deep socket is needed to take them off.

rbarri2 05-26-2015 07:37 PM

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from the looks of it, I think it's a 12 point bolt.
They all appear to be original, so maybe IH changed things up at some point.

R Bedell 05-26-2015 09:00 PM

According to the Parts Manuals, both the on line version as well as the paper version, Plus both IH & CCC productions....they used 710-0376 bolt. It is a standard Hex Head Bolt, 5/16-18 x 1", grade 5.

I find NOTHING with any reference to a 12 point bolt head.

rbarri2 05-26-2015 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 330741)
According to the Parts Manuals, both the on line version as well as the paper version, Plus both IH & CCC productions....they used 710-0376 bolt. It is a standard Hex Head Bolt, 5/16-18 x 1", grade 5.

I find NOTHING with any reference to a 12 point bolt head.

Good info. It seemed like an odd thing for IH to do and after many years of wrenching on old IH stuff, it's the first time I've ever encountered a 12 point bolt on one. I bought a cheap "spline socket" set at Auto Zone and the bolts came right out. Thanks

JALLEN 05-26-2015 09:14 PM

i have also seen those bolts in the same place on the 82 series and later tractors joe allen

darkminion_17 05-26-2015 09:26 PM

me too on the 782 IH built.

J-Mech 05-26-2015 09:56 PM

I too have seen 12pt head bolts there. They are 3/8" 12pt.

dale c. 05-26-2015 10:27 PM

they take a 5/16" 12 point socket

DoubleO7 05-27-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dale c. (Post 330751)
they take a 5/16" 12 point socket



Yes, just a regular 12 point socket normally used on hex heads.
http://www.f-gear.co.jp/deen_new/soc...ges/spline.jpg

john hall 05-27-2015 09:01 AM

My 982 had 12 point heads as well. Never could figure out the logic behind it. Maybe something to do with efficiency/ease of installation on an assembly line?

R Bedell 05-27-2015 09:15 AM

As an educated guess..........

There came a point during production, that the normal Hex Head Bolt was running low or were out of, and the (IH or CCC) frantically found a Vendor that could supply a substitute for the least cost. And that is what they came up with.

I am sure, since the Parts Manuals substantiate it, that the original part called for was the Hex Head Bolt.

rbarri2 05-27-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 330789)
Yes, just a regular 12 point socket normally used on hex heads.
http://www.f-gear.co.jp/deen_new/soc...ges/spline.jpg


Good post, thanks.

Roy Najecki 05-27-2015 09:43 AM

Didn't all Cub Cadets bolts have either IH or WP (the West Pullman, Chicago area IH factory) on the bolt heads? From what I've read around the early 1970's they removed the IH marking and replaced it with WP so they could sell fasteners without the well-known IH trademark to other manufacturers.

R Bedell 05-27-2015 10:01 AM

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Didn't all Cub Cadets bolts have either IH or WP (the West Pullman, Chicago area IH factory) on the bolt heads? From what I've read around the early 1970's they removed the IH marking and replaced it with WP so they could sell fasteners without the well-known IH trademark to other manufacturers.
That is the impression I was under also.........:ThumbsUp:


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