Sick of it!
 

There are a few individuals here who do a very fine job of making others look dumb. Plainly put, it disgusts me. You have to be a real tough guy to type on a keyboard and call people out, I'm sure they'd react differently if they met the person face to face. There are too many "keyboard warriors" here.

I feel like I missed something today :bigthink:

Clarification: I don't want to add to the drama and stir the pot. Everyone, just please be aware of what your typing. In the best interest of the forum lets try to be kind.:biggrin2:

I just want to add a few things. I do a lot of non-face-to-face communication on a daily basis due to the nature of my job. Successful communication is more than the transmission of information, it involves alignment - emotional,physical and informational, establishing rapport, making sure the person actually understands what you're saying. This is accomplished through multiple means in face-to-face communication: eye contact, facial expressions, tone, pitch, inflections, speed, volume, breathing, hand gestures. All these cues are missing when communicating via forum, IM, text, e-mail, making successful communication difficult and leading to confusion. The simplest and most innocent phrase can make you sound like a complete jackass. Just be mindful and understand that lacking context your words can be interpreted differently than intended. Use smiley faces and extra words to make up for the missing non-verbal cues and avoid mis-understandings :beerchug: .

Me too..... :bigthink:

Exactly, emoticons or smilies, etc. are a mere shell of true face to face contact.
But, when it goes on for a paragraph it becomes obvious.

Well before this thread has a chance to turn ugly, first, if you have an issue with someone or more than one, you take it up with them privately. If that does not work you contact Roland or one of the mods and we will look into the issue. Other than that I don't see a need to let this continue.

Thanks

I was going to fire back and get into this but changed my mind. Think from now on I'll just keep my mouth shut. If someone has a question about something that I can answer they can contact me. I'll hide out in the back ground and do my moderator duties as tactfully as possible so as not to offend anyone. :beerchug::beerchug: Is it 5:00 yet? :biggrin2:

I have seen this, too. Just surprised it took this long for a post to come up. This has been stated by others in different ways already, but I don't think it can be overstated. Well, I am not going to rant and rave on this, just wanted to be supportive of IHCadetCollector for speaking up. Everyone needs to be reminded of this so that we are kind to others always. Joe Clark stated, "Life is like an echo. You get back exactly what you send out." May we all see "happy returns".:beerchug:

Cub Cadet 123

It's just not one sided, some folks ask for help or post questions and when they don't get the answer they want, get all bent out of shape.

Jeff

Very true! Good point Jeff.

I've seen it also, but I try to think the positive about ppl., not the negative.
It is really hard to express true meaning via typed words.
The other day a brand new first time poster asked about a LT and helpful ppl here told him it was not the best model as it had a trail of problems to stay away from it.
How well meaning/helpful we are.
But I felt sorry for him kind of, as I didn't see where anyone welcomed him
to the forum(maybe I missed it) and I know how humans have enthusiasm for a "NEW" to them something.
Please understand here, I'm not condemning anyone, just giving a simple example.
We all give a hell of a lot our time and trouble helping people we know we will never see.
I have a hard time myself talking to my wife via typed word, especially with word spell correct and cell/smart phones which I don't have.
( computer gives me a hard enough time)
I never learned to type, all my posts are one finger.
But we all enjoy helping people and are rewarded by it.
Many times I read what I posted, and the next day, think boy that could have been worded better or I hope it was not taken the wrong way.
such is life, we try and we error because we are human.
( stepping down from todays soapbox) Ha,LOL!

Jeff, I agree. BUT, a wise person once told me, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.........". :bigthink:

Guys, we see this come up at least a couple times a month. We are all adults and most things should be handled in private via PM's, emails, phone calls. I think it's a very bigger problem then most people think/know about. You have to have thick skin in life, especially on a forum, but the constant bashing and ridiculing finally gets to a person. I know alot of members here have had this happen to them on the public forum and in private via PM's, myself included.

If this happens to anyone via the open forum or via PM's and you feel you can't deal with it on your own, don't sit back and let it happen. PM Roland directly with the thread and details. OCC is a great forum with a ton of great people and info here but we can't let one bad apple spoil the bunch guys.

OK, off my soapbox.............

Sam, it's 5:00 somewhere...............:beer2:

Well put..........:clap:

I really have got to agree with Jeff, sometimes I get hopping mad and shout at my computer because someone refuses to take good advice and/or wants to argue about the responses that they get.

This thread is about a problem that is WAY bigger than that, it is about the belligerent, obnoxious, condescending attitude that so many undeserving members here get. It has exactly no place on the forum.

I too support the views of IHCadetCollector.

I too agree with the others.

Agreed with cub collector.

Me too. I just keep a low profile and try to keep my posts to a minimum.

I do reference the information available on the site quite often though.

I have had some attitude come my way here, but I handle it in my own way, call it for what it is then get over it. People here are not paid for their time, and their is no telling if the intent is to belittle or agitate. I agree emotions are hard to convey through type.
I feel people on here are some of the most helpfull I have found on the web, but we are not emotionless machines, I feel we should let people be who and how they are as long as the intention is to help the posters.
Stepping back in to the shadows now.

My advice/thoughts: it is (most of the time) all in how you interpret things. If you read a post looking for attitude rather than the answer within to what you asked, you'll find attitude.

Some people come across as rude or condescending when in fact they mean not to. To me, attitude in posts is, most of the time, as much the reader as it is the poster. I guess what I'm trying to say is you'll only get offended or upset by a post if you let yourself. It's the internet, people! Even if something is condescending or rude, why bother getting upset about it? I've been down that road, getting my feathers in a tizzy about every little thing but you know what it got me? Angry. And do you know what THAT got me? Jack and squat. Unless someone is specifically calling you out, let it go. Getting upset ain't gonna change a thing and will only serve to make YOU miserable.

We're here to convey information, facts, how-to-fix-it's, not start drama with other members. If you have a problem with someone, take it up with them, not in a thread in a public area.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to watching out the window for much anticipated green grass to grow :beerchug:

I think this is a very healthy discussion and am glad that it is being allowed to continue.

One of the few things that I’ve learned in life is that if you never listen you will never learn. Also, many of us, myself included, are not very good at communicating. What seems to me to be just a matter of fact statement is construed by others as harsh criticism. I really do enjoy argui.., sorry, debating the details of how to accomplish a certain task and see no reason why anyone should be shut up for that, but also understand the frustration that I’m sure many helpful, and knowledgeable people experience dealing with people who keep asking the same stupi., sorry, dumb questions that have already been answered, like just last week, and then won’t even listen to the advice.

I think I’ve done my best to take both sides here.

If I have in anyway offended any of you let me assure that it was not intentional. I've said in the past and will say again if any of you wish to talk about it feel free to send me a PM with your phone # and I will call you on my dime.

I'll also try to not jump into every thread and render my unsolicited opinion. I'll let the "Experts" have at it. Hopefully this will make things better for all. It will certainly free up a substantial amount of time for me. Carry on gents. :biggrin2:

I think most everything that can be said has been said. Thanks for not getting into a public bashing mode. This will close out the thread.