PTO Conversion
 

I was wondering what it would take to convert a PTO on a 129 that had the safety brake factory installed over to one that did not. I have a 129 that has the button in the PTO so worn down that the C-clip groove is no longer there, so it will not hold the circular brake piece on the PTO. I was wondering if I could just replace the front rocker PTO arm that uses a wear button and use the PTO without the safety brake disk on it. Yeah, I am lazy and do not want to remove the PTO and I already have those parts from a donor 129 that I can use.

Thanks for your input in advance,

Cub Cadet 123

I just did it to a 149.

You need the non brake style rock-shaft, fiber button and the correct center button for the PTO.

Thanks, you ornery varmint :BB&YS: :biggrin2:. That is what I needed to know. I just did not want to get into the PTO if I did not have to. Thanks buddy!!

Cub Cadet 123

You do have to remove the PTO to change the button,can't use it with the udder brake style one.

Yeah, Lew.....I realize that now. I was hoping that the PTO button that is in would work with the change over, but now realize that either way that front PTO must come off. Oh well, something to explore when the time comes my way. Just more work for a cub that I am planning on selling.

Thanks for the friendly advice,

Cub Cadet 123

JeffinPA can make that brake style button. He just needs a good one to copy. I was going to have him make one for me..... but I haven't gotten to that project yet.

I think they are just a few bucks at partstree. The button and little clip are all that I really need....something like $12 total + shipping. I was looking for a quicker way out since time is never on my side. Well, that and I did not want to soak the Blaster and play the waiting game.

Thanks for the tip Jon,

Cub Cadet 123

:bigthink:

Maybe I am thinking of the button on the lever then..... We needed one (whichever) for my friend Chris' 129. We bought it from CC specialties because it was NLA and the one we had was far enough gone that Jeff couldn't copy it. In the parts pic it doesn't even show the button for the lever... that's probably the one that is NLA. I have it laying around here somewhere. I know what we needed was NLA .... :bigthink:


Under edit:
I just went out and looked at those parts. Now I'm thinking that we just bought everything through CC Specialties because we were ordering a bunch off him anyway. Just as well pay one shipping. All I know is this: Those brake style PTO's cost way more to rebuild than the non-brake style. If the brake is bad, that is.

OK someone needs to post some pics, I've owned and worked on a ton of cub but they've always had the rugular style PTO and I have no idea what you mean by safety brake.

Here you go...

Thanks for the pic.

safety pto?

Guess I learn something new everyday, I've never seen one like.

They came out on the 1X9 series, so unless a PTO has been swapped, that will be the only series you will find them on. Started at SN# 482000 and ran till 529811, so relatively few of them out there. (Compared to the other style.)

Thanks for the info, that explains why I've never seen one before

To add to that, I believe all of the 169's had them installed from the factory on them. So now that begs the question, since I have to remove the PTO anyway and I have extra old style ones, do I put an old style one as a replacement (obviously changing out the rockshaft as Yosemite Sam already stated and the wear button, etc.) or do I fix what I have (leave the PTO with the safety brake installed on it) for the next owner since this one is up for sale? Again, time is not on my side and I am looking for it to move on down the road.

I am thinking fix what I have, but it like man waiting to be executed.....always want to hear other options.

Cub Cadet 123

i guess the universe work in mysterious ways, just drug home a cub and it has this goofy setup on it. looks to be in good shape and im going to switch it out for the regular style so i curious what the complete setup is worth.

Looks like the engine in thar is put together by a rookie,the spacer and s/g arm belong on the top bolt,how much is it worth???
where is the engagement arm?brings down the value...

the arm is there. i just got this jewel so i havent had time to defunk it yet.:biggrin2:

That is strange how it works.....you never had one before....NOW YOU DO! Careful what you wish for, it just might come true.

Cub Cadet 123

Maxwell, I'd fix what you have. That way you don't have a spare brake style PTO sitting around that you can't or don't want to use. Plus, you would be short one "good" spare PTO if you switched it out.


Tim, congrats! :beerchug:

which part were you wanting jeff to make on this thing?

Get Lew in on this discussion, he's sending me some parts to copy and I think that's one of them. :beerchug:

good enough for me, im sure it will turn out great.

Yeah, I never sent it to him. It was the button.

Sorry Jeff. I haven't gotten to that project yet. :angry:

Thanks Operator 6 (:biggrin2:) for that advice. It would probably be less work in the long run anyway. Seems like a lot of work to just change the button on the PTO, but oh well. Need to make sure that the future owner has a reliable machine.

Cub Cadet 123