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nickvanorman 04-05-2010 01:28 AM

Starter Generator help
 
Hey,

I purchased a used starter generator off of ebay recently. it came in the mail today so i took off my old one, mounted the new one and it started turned over the motor well, but it would not start. i am wondering if there is a process you must go through when changing out starter generators? can someone help me please.

thankyou,
Nick V

ajgross 04-05-2010 04:20 AM

I think your problem lies elsewhere. The starter shouldn't cause it not to start if it's cranking the motor over.

goat_poker 04-05-2010 11:38 AM

I just went through a bunch of generator problems (search for my thread titled "127 charging issues" ) and my cub would still start. I think the previous poster has it right with the problem lies elsewhere. If you have spark, I would look at the fuel system next.

Yosemite Sam 04-05-2010 11:58 AM

If the S/G is doing what it's supposed to be doing, why do you suspect it as being the cause of the engine not starting?

nickvanorman 04-05-2010 04:14 PM

i have reason to suspect its the starter generator because i put the other starter generator back on (that starts just does not charge) and it fired right up. i noticed last night also, that one of the terminals on the starter generator was loose and completely stripped. is there a way to change it? this might be what is causing the problem.

rmunro 04-05-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nickvanorman (Post 24916)
i have reason to suspect its the starter generator because i put the other starter generator back on (that starts just does not charge) and it fired right up. i noticed last night also, that one of the terminals on the starter generator was loose and completely stripped. is there a way to change it? this might be what is causing the problem.

That happened to me. Turned out the armature in the S/G was shot. Drew so much (probably short) There was no amps left for the ignition to work properly.

goat_poker 04-05-2010 04:59 PM

There's a video on you tube of a guy taking apart a delco-remy generator if that's the kind you have. Not the best video but it might help you figure out how to get at the terminals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XDs9...eature=related

Yosemite Sam 04-05-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickvanorman (Post 24916)
i have reason to suspect its the starter generator because i put the other starter generator back on (that starts just does not charge) and it fired right up. i noticed last night also, that one of the terminals on the starter generator was loose and completely stripped. is there a way to change it? this might be what is causing the problem.

A couple of months ago I had a terminal that was broken off, the attaching wire went to one of the field coils inside. I took it (the terminal) and the coil out, made a new terminal and had my brother silver solder it to the lead on the coil. So far it works just as it should.

Matt G. 04-05-2010 06:35 PM

If it's the armature terminal that needs fixing, I'd braze it instead of soldering it. This was at the recommendation of a good S/G shop; they said that if the tractor started hard or otherwise needed cranking for longer than a few seconds, enough heat could be generated to melt the solder.

ol'George 04-06-2010 09:27 AM

My experience is:
Regular solder melts approx. 750* where silver solder melts about 1200* and up.
So it acts more like brazing rod but tins/sweats easier. it would be difficult, but not impossible to braze a wire to a terminal.
I have had excellent success using silver solder.
again, just my experience.

nickvanorman 04-06-2010 08:23 PM

thanks for the help fellas. i took my starter generator apart and one of those plastic washer thingys had busted in half and the wire had pulled off so i retrofitted another terminal on by tying the two wires together. and according to the volt meter it is putting out volts now. the voltage regulator is my problem.


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