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64fleetside 11-05-2014 05:27 PM

How much fluid?
 
Got 2 new Deestone 23x10.50x12s coming tomorrow from my local tire store. Seems like I've read somewhere on here how much fluid they can hold but cannot find it thru the search feature.
Anyone know off the top of their head?
I have 7 gallons on hand here at work.

J-Mech 11-05-2014 05:35 PM

I think that they hold between 7 and 8 gallons each. 7 IIRC. Been a while since I added ballast.

64fleetside 11-05-2014 05:57 PM

Thanks, Jonathan.

Psycometric 11-06-2014 06:22 AM

Had them squish 8 gallons into the pair I have . I have two pair both the beet juice and the salt brine , salt only because the dealer missled me , we'll see how long the rims last.

olds45512 11-06-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycometric (Post 294558)
Had them squish 8 gallons into the pair I have . I have two pair both the beet juice and the salt brine , salt only because the dealer missled me , we'll see how long the rims last.

The rim will last forever provided they have tubes in them and the tubes don't leak, if they put calcium in tubeless tire you need to march them back over there and demand they do it right or you won't have any wheels left in a year.

sawdustdad 11-06-2014 09:04 AM

I normally put 6 gallons in tires that size. Need some room for air in there,too.

J-Mech 11-06-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 294569)
The rim will last forever provided they have tubes in them and the tubes don't leak, if they put calcium in tubeless tire you need to march them back over there and demand they do it right or you won't have any wheels left in a year.

Just to play the "devils advocate", in the AG world we do CaCl2 in tubeless tires all the time. As long as the fluid completely covers the rim inside (which it is supposed to) and the stem doesn't leak, they won't rot that way. They've been doing that for years with no issues.

olds45512 11-06-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 294580)
Just to play the "devils advocate", in the AG world we do CaCl2 in tubeless tires all the time. As long as the fluid completely covers the rim inside (which it is supposed to) and the stem doesn't leak, they won't rot that way. They've been doing that for years with no issues.

Yes that is true but here in the real world 99% of people with a slow leak don't rush right out and get it repaired, often time most people won't get it repaired until the damage is already starting to be done.

J-Mech 11-06-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 294586)
Yes that is true but here in the real world 99% of people with a slow leak don't rush right out and get it repaired, often time most people won't get it repaired until the damage is already starting to be done.

I don't disagree. But, in all honesty that is their fault. Not the equipment, or the calcium's fault. Same thing happens when a tube leaks. No different. Like I said, I'm only playing devils advocate. I'm not opposed to CaCl2, tubes or no tubes. Done it both ways. :beerchug:

olds45512 11-06-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 294587)
I don't disagree. But, in all honesty that is their fault. Not the equipment, or the calcium's fault. Same thing happens when a tube leaks. No different. Like I said, I'm only playing devils advocate. I'm not opposed to CaCl2, tubes or no tubes. Done it both ways. :beerchug:

When are you not playing devils advocate?:biggrin2:

J-Mech 11-06-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 294594)
When are you not playing devils advocate?:biggrin2:

:biggrin2::biggrin2:

64fleetside 11-07-2014 02:42 PM

Got these Deestones in the back of my truck, man this thing should really pull about anything with these fulla fluid.
My local tractor guru runs tubeless tires with antifreeze and Bar's Leaks stop leak in his yard dog's tires. Says no flats in 10+ yrs.

garnold 11-07-2014 07:01 PM

I plan to get the same thing done really soon before it snows around here. Today I called my tire shop and they really where not in love with the calcium in the tubes either. He said that the valves in the tunes tubes for tractors don't really hold up that well and was worried in time that they will fail. I think I might go with the windshield wiper in tubes approach. Sound good?

darkminion_17 11-07-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by garnold (Post 294765)
I plan to get the same thing done really soon before it snows around here. Today I called my tire shop and they really where not in love with the calcium in the tubes either. He said that the valves in the tunes tubes for tractors don't really hold up that well and was worried in time that they will fail. I think I might go with the windshield wiper in tubes approach. Sound good?

How much do they charge for this operation?

garnold 11-07-2014 07:58 PM

It's not that bad. $45 per tire and that includes the tube but I have to provide the fluid.

garnold 11-07-2014 07:59 PM

It's TireKing in Sussex.

64fleetside 11-10-2014 08:43 AM

Man, this IS some sort of sickness-ya'll should have seen the look on the wife's face when she walked in on me pouring washer fluid into tires.

I got 5 gallons into each of them-the Deestones are definately shorter and skinnier than the OE Goodyears with "Made in U.S.A." stamped into them. The font of the lettering stamped into the Deestones strangely looks the same though.

J-Mech 11-10-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by garnold (Post 294774)
It's not that bad. $45 per tire and that includes the tube but I have to provide the fluid.

They are going to charge you $45 per tire to put fluid (whatever kind) into a tire, AND you have to provide the fluid?!?!?! That's a rip off!! If your going to use WWF, just do it yourself!

garnold 11-10-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 295196)
They are going to charge you $45 per tire to put fluid (whatever kind) into a tire, AND you have to provide the fluid?!?!?! That's a rip off!! If your going to use WWF, just do it yourself!

Oh no they are doing more then just the fluid. This includes removing the tires from the rims, installing tubes, putting the tubes and tires back on the rims then adding the fluid. If I had the tubes in the tires already I would do this myself but taking the tires off and putting them back on by hand is just a pain to do. So all this for $45 is not all that bad.

cub123 11-10-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 295196)
They are going to charge you $45 per tire to put fluid (whatever kind) into a tire, AND you have to provide the fluid?!?!?! That's a rip off!! If your going to use WWF, just do it yourself!

Agreed, my shop only charged $34.15 for both of my rear 26-12x12 super tires, AND they provided the antifreeze.

DoubleO7 11-10-2014 11:29 AM

They have to take the tire completely off the rim to add a tube?

Tire shops love not putting fluid in tubes because they can push one bead down and pour the fluid in over the bead. And blow it shut, both in about 5 minutes per tire.

Calcium corroding the heck out of a rim is due to metal exposed to the oxygen containing air inside the tire. Keep it full up so the rim never sees air and it will last long time. Or air up with nitrogen maybe.

J-Mech 11-10-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by garnold (Post 295198)
So all this for $45 is not all that bad.

Gene, is that $45 total? Or per tire? Because you made it sound like it was per tire. If it's total, and includes the tubes in the price, then no that isn't bad. If it's per tire..... it's still a rip off.


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Originally Posted by cub123 (Post 295199)
Agreed, my shop only charged $34.15 for both of my rear 26-12x12 super tires, AND they provided the antifreeze.

Ben, that sounds very reasonable and more like what I would expect. :beerchug:


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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 295200)
They have to take the tire completely off the rim to add a tube?

No, they should just have to take one side off the rim.

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 295200)
Tire shops love not putting fluid in tubes because they can push one bead down and pour the fluid in over the bead. And blow it shut, both in about 5 minutes per tire.

Calcium corroding the heck out of a rim is due to metal exposed to the oxygen containing air inside the tire. Keep it full up so the rim never sees air and it will last long time. Or air up with nitrogen maybe.

Yes to both of these statements!! Easier to put fluid into a tubeless tire. And if your not using CaCl2 I wouldn't use a tube. You are exactly correct about CaCl2 and air. That's what I keep saying. You can do it tubeless as long as the rim is submerged. I prefer tubes with CaCl2, but that's mostly just because if you ever need to change the tire it's less of a mess. :beerchug:

garnold 11-10-2014 10:04 PM

Yeah, when I got the quote it was going to be $45 per tire. I didn't think that was all that bad because they said the tubes cost around $18 per but I guess maybe it is a little high?


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