1650 Steering Column
 

My hydraulic valve mounts to a plate that is mounted to the steering column. I noticed when I move my lift lever, the outer sleeve on the steering column moves up and down, quite a bit, before it engages the valve, Is this normal or is there a way to make it more solid? :bigthink:

Thanks

Hmm... I think your steering wheel is loose... Remove it. If you don't know how, let me know, I'll write up how to do it easy. Grab the tube, push it all the way down, lightly, with a hammer, then replace the steering wheel. Check for space between the wheel and the bushing. I had to put a washer in mine. Retighten steering wheel. It should help.

I should have specified that I had the wheel off already. Is that why? Does the wheel and nut hold it down? I noticed it while I was disassembling to take the column out to rebuild.

Yes, that's probably the problem. Bolt the wheel back on real quick... It should stop moving up and down on you

Lmercer:

The outer tube on the Steering Column has become loose from the lower gear housing. Generally speaking, when this happens, steering column replacement is needed.

:IH Trusted Hand:

I don't think you need to replace it...just pull the column, and expand the bottom of the tube ever so slightly with a muffler pipe expander and put it back in.

Matt G.: Thanks I'll give that a shot.

R Bedell: I was afraid of that. I'm going to try Matt's idea and start looking for another one.

Thanks
Lyle

This might be about the only reason I could ever find to use a good epoxy on a tractor.

The stress you're putting on it by the lift valve is the only stress it will receive.






Scott

Another trick if you expand it a little too much: Put the tube in the freezer and heat up the aluminum case with a lightbulb. The two pieces should then slide together easily, and you'll have a nice press fit again when the assembly returns to room temperature.

I read a while back where somebody pulled the tube, reversed it and reinstalled it top-side down, tapping it into place. That way a fresh end goes into the housing with a tight fit. The only down side to that fix is that now the steering shaft bushing fits a hair tight at the top.

What I had heard was to have a muffler shop make a new pipe. The exhaust tubing is a little bit thicker than the original tube and allows you to use a bearing from your local hardware store for the top of the tube. I haven't tried it yet, but whenever I get around to rebuilding my 3 turn column, it's going to be my plan.

AJ

Looking for some more advice. I got my steering column apart and wonder if anybody has had any experience with ordering the replacement parts thru Cub. I'm heading to my Dad's tomorrow and he only lives a few miles from an IH dealer, where I have gotten parts before. In the below picture, they list #10 as the bearing and ball assembly. Does that include the ball retainer, which they list as #16? That is really what I need as the balls are loose in the one from the bottom of the column, and they seem to be ok. Any advise would be appreciated.

Lyle

Yeah, you should be able to get everything you need from your Cub dealer... But if you go to the JD dealer and tell them you have a JD 110 you can get the same parts at a substantial savings.

Caution:
Please don't do that!!
You will be struck by lightning on a bright sunny day, and when the parts are installed, turning the steering wheel to the left, it will go right and tip you over into a non existing ditch in a perfectly level field!!
I know from experience, as it happens frequently to me,
tis a terrible thing!! :bigeyes:

I bought all the parts from the IH dealer today, hopefully I'll live another day. :)

Has anybody replaced the tube (column) on their steering column? Mine is loose and I'm undecided to either use a muffler expander to make it bigger or it looks like 1 1/4" thin wall metal conduit might work. I have to take the steering box and the upper bearing to Menards with me to see if they will fit OK.
:bigthink:

Wild Bill,

I had been seeing bearings on Ebay for replacing the bushing. This morning when I was at the IH dealer, I showed him a picture of the bearing and gave him the dimensions and that's what he came up with too :beer2:

Would of been about half the price on Ebay, but then it wouldn't be 'original' would it? :biggrin2.gif:

Now to find a local version of the Nice 605 thrust bearing and I'm good!!

Thanks

Steering Column Update:

Instead of trying to expand my loose column, or 'burring' it up and locktiting it in, I felt like fabbing one up.

I was planning on upgrading the bushing at the top to a bearing, and an old 3/4" front wheel bearing was what was the closest thing. In the original column, it was too loose, but the bushing fit snug.

I looked at some 1 1/4" EMT metal conduit, which the bearing fit perfectly snug into, and almost was the perfect size out side.

It took quite a bit of polishing to get it smaller. I put the pipe in the freezer and heated the steering box a little with a torch and had a buddy help me and using a couple of boards and a BFH, we drove it home.

It took a while, but it is not coming out. I liked the way it came out::beerchug:

You might have a hard time painting it. EMF is galvanized, and paint has a hard time sticking to galvanized metal. You might try an etching primer.