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Maxwelhse 07-17-2014 03:52 AM

Firearms discussions
 
First, it's totally cool with me if it is. It just seems that a lot of guys into old tractors are also into firearms. It would be fun to shoot the bull and see what other guys are using to hunt or target practice with.

I TOTALLY understand if the topic is taboo here.

Sam Mac 07-17-2014 06:42 AM

Max

The Mods are discussing this topic and we will give you an answer ASAP.

OK guys here's the deal, we are going to let this continue. If it get's out of control that will be the end of it. Absolutely no political crap. If you post something that we deem inappropriate it will just disappear with no explanation. If your post goes away you will know you crossed the line, at that point if you start a rant you will go away so don't be stupid. This will be about fire arms and ammo period.

olds45512 07-17-2014 07:27 AM

i'd think talking about guns themselves would be fine as long as the politics of everything that's going on is left out of the discussion. just my opinion.

jimbob200521 07-17-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 274693)
i'd think talking about guns themselves would be fine as long as the politics of everything that's going on is left out of the discussion. just my opinion.

I agree, however; it's hard for some people to leave politics out of guns. :beatdeadhorse:

782CC 07-17-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 274697)
I agree, however; it's hard for some people to leave politics out of guns. :beatdeadhorse:

Agreed. Seems the notion, discussion and especially pics brings on a lot of attention. And usually not the type the poster desired. Days are long gone that you bring your cool new rifle to school to show off to the teachers.

Yosemite Sam 07-17-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 782CC (Post 274730)
Days are long gone that you bring your cool new rifle to school to show off to the teachers.

LMAO, you are correct! I remember during hunting/deer season half of the pick-ups in the parking lot at school had gun racks with a shotgun in the back window... INCLUDING SEVERAL TEACHERS. And my most impure thought was "Man, I wish I could take off work this afternoon and go hunting instead".

jimbob200521 07-17-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 274737)
LMAO, you are correct! I remember during hunting/deer season half of the pick-ups in the parking lot at school had gun racks with a shotgun in the back window... INCLUDING SEVERAL TEACHERS. And my most impure thought was "Man, I wish I could take off work this afternoon and go hunting instead".

Firearm ownership has been ruined by the classic "one bad apple ruins it for the bunch". You get a couple psychos doing stuff 99% of the population would NEVER dream of, media and news stations blowing it up all over the country, and all of a sudden we panic in the big government saying we don't need clips larger than 10 rounds, no automatic weapons, yada yada yada. All this while they are stockpiling more ammunition than ever before in history.

Wait, is this the kind of gun talk we don't want? :biggrin2: Rant OVER.

All that being said, I'm all for discussion and pictures of FIREARMS, not debate on political agenda or pretty much anything I said above. It should be a place to cut loose, and show off a few toys, a thread like the Hunting & Fishing one we have. Simple, clean, and fun for all :beerchug:

olds45512 07-17-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 274742)
Firearm ownership has been ruined by the classic "one bad apple ruins it for the bunch". You get a couple psychos doing stuff 99% of the population would NEVER dream of, media and news stations blowing it up all over the country, and all of a sudden we panic in the big government saying we don't need clips larger than 10 rounds, no automatic weapons, yada yada yada. All this while they are stockpiling more ammunition than ever before in history.

Wait, is this the kind of gun talk we don't want? :biggrin2: Rant OVER.

All that being said, I'm all for discussion and pictures of FIREARMS, not debate on political agenda or pretty much anything I said above. It should be a place to cut loose, and show off a few toys, a thread like the Hunting & Fishing one we have. Simple, clean, and fun for all :beerchug:

I agree, i dont see anything wrong with pics and general discussion of guns as long as everybody keeps the politics out of it. Im sure the mods wont care unless it turns into a thread they have to baby sit.

J-Mech 07-17-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 274747)
Im sure the mods wont care unless it turns into a thread they have to baby sit.

We're still discussing it guys. As soon as we have a consensus we'll let you know. :beerchug:

red56turbo 07-17-2014 12:41 PM

Unfortunately,
Topics like this always stray south and end up getting political. I've seen it happen on other forums. This thread is a topic just to see if it is allowed and there is already politics being pulled into it. I don't have anything against guns or gun ownership, but this is a cub cadet forum. Any reason to pull guns onto this type of forum? Aren't there forums out there discussing guns? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. We'll see what the mods decide. I don't care either way and they would be the ones watching those threads. :TwoCents:

Billy-O 07-17-2014 01:12 PM

It seems that some of the discussions has already turned political. There are other forums for that. Cub Cadets has nothing to do with guns.

druwl 07-17-2014 01:21 PM

Fun? Yes! Here? Not so much.

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1159c38b.jpg

Cub Cadet 123 07-17-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 274751)
Unfortunately,
Topics like this always stray south and end up getting political. I've seen it happen on other forums. This thread is a topic just to see if it is allowed and there is already politics being pulled into it. I don't have anything against guns or gun ownership, but this is a cub cadet forum. Any reason to pull guns onto this type of forum? Aren't there forums out there discussing guns? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. We'll see what the mods decide. I don't care either way and they would be the ones watching those threads. :TwoCents:

I agree Josh....unless the guns are mounted to a cub cadet, but that seems to be unnecessary.:bigthink:.....maybe for the QL to sneak up on the prey.....naaaaahhhh. I think that having this on the forum would be like a t.v. set on wedding night--unnecessary. There is a proper place and time for everything and there are forums for that kind of enthusiast or sportsman, but I do not think this is it. Within a few post it seemed to already be heading political, but that decision is best left to the mods.

Cub Cadet 123

782CC 07-17-2014 02:02 PM

mounting a 50cal to a cub cadet. With a #2 cart to carry the belt. Now that would be a topic!
Did notice there is a hunting and fishing sticky. Wouldn't that cover the discussion the OP is asking about? If it is firearms specific discussion, I would agree that is for a GunsnStuff forum.

Lanceskene 07-17-2014 02:47 PM

I agree that firearm discussions can and do get out of hand at times.... and yes this is a Cub Cadet forum.... but... alot of garden tractor owners are also country dwellers many of which will use firearms to keep the fox out of the hen house, the skunks out from under the grainary, and shooting gophers is just part of yard maintaince.

I grew up in a farming community, server 6 yrs militia, and I hunt, firearms trucks and tractors all go with the day to day activities for me... but I'll never get to know anyone here very well because I only own one "Cub Cadet"... an "O"... although I also own a LoBoy and a full size IH... theres not alot of threads here that I can take part in..so.. while this may be a very friendly forum with alot of good people... it sometimes doesnt offer much to encourage members to know each other very well... or encourage new members to join... just my opinion of course... but loosening the "Cub Cadets Only" theme may actually benefit the forum.

Any bow hunters here??? ;)

sawdustdad 07-17-2014 03:22 PM

While the Mods are deliberating, I'll chime in apolitically.

Dusted off my Dillon Square deal and loaded about 1000 rounds of 9mm over the past couple of evenings. "About" 1000 because I didn't count all the primers I spilled on the shop floor in the process...tiny little buggers.

Having a hard time finding powder in the local shops, though, but primers and bullets and brass readily available.

Got a pile of .223 brass ready for the Rock Chucker.

Anybody else reload?

Oh, I had to clean Cub parts off the bench to set up the presses. (cub cadet content just in case).

olds45512 07-17-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanceskene (Post 274767)
I agree that firearm discussions can and do get out of hand at times.... and yes this is a Cub Cadet forum.... but... alot of garden tractor owners are also country dwellers many of which will use firearms to keep the fox out of the hen house, the skunks out from under the grainary, and shooting gophers is just part of yard maintaince.

I grew up in a farming community, server 6 yrs militia, and I hunt, firearms trucks and tractors all go with the day to day activities for me... but I'll never get to know anyone here very well because I only own one "Cub Cadet"... an "O"... although I also own a LoBoy and a full size IH... theres not alot of threads here that I can take part in..so.. while this may be a very friendly forum with alot of good people... it sometimes doesnt offer much to encourage members to know each other very well... or encourage new members to join... just my opinion of course... but loosening the "Cub Cadets Only" theme may actually benefit the forum.

Any bow hunters here??? ;)

I agree, not everybody wants to be on 6 different forums and those saying that a little gun chat on a cub forum doesnt belong need to explain to me the reasoning for the general discussion area. Theres a thread going right now about off road vehicles pics and theres about a million forums dedicated to that subject. The mods will do what they want and thats there right but to those who say guns dont belong on the cub forum id like to point out that neither does most of the discussion here thats not cub related.

olds45512 07-17-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 274773)
While the Mods are deliberating, I'll chime in apolitically.

Dusted off my Dillon Square deal and loaded about 1000 rounds of 9mm over the past couple of evenings. "About" 1000 because I didn't count all the primers I spilled on the shop floor in the process...tiny little buggers.

Having a hard time finding powder in the local shops, though, but primers and bullets and brass readily available.

Got a pile of .223 brass ready for the Rock Chucker.

Anybody else reload?

Oh, I had to clean Cub parts off the bench to set up the presses. (cub cadet content just in case).

How do you like your square deal? Ive been wanting to pick on up for my 45 acp but i keep spending the money on cubs.:biggrin2:

j4c11 07-17-2014 04:23 PM

I think a discussion about guns would not be political in nature and therefor would not violate the rules of the forum. I think a discussion about gun ownership would be political in nature and would therefor violate the rules. Thus, it is my personal opinion that those who own guns should be able to discuss said guns, and those who violate forum rules should be dealt with just like they are dealt with on any other topic. I don't believe anyone should have their ability to talk about things that are important to them taken away because of other people's intolerance to opposing views. And that goes both ways.

Shotgun Wedding 07-17-2014 05:42 PM

T'would be nice to discuss firearms in the hunting section. Good way to get to know each other a little more since we all seem to be country dwellers.

I have a Sako 85 Finnlight in 270WSM, love it. Browning A5 12 ga and a good ol Ruger 10-22. On order is a Tikka T3 in 243win, but the 270 is main gun for big Canadian elk and moose and bear.

Merk 07-17-2014 05:58 PM

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by red56turbo
Unfortunately,
Topics like this always stray south and end up getting political. I've seen it happen on other forums.
That is what will happen to this topic.

Speaking from being a past moderator.......It only takes one event-person to light the fuse.


If the mods want to save themselves a bunch of aggervation they will not allow the topic become part of this site.

kostendorf 07-17-2014 05:58 PM

Shotgun Wedding, I've got a Winchester model 70 Ranger in 270 I use for deer. Never had one run more than 10 feet. I would not have thought it would kill a moose though. I know its a very effective round for long distance.

Shotgun Wedding 07-17-2014 06:17 PM

Regular 270 may be a pretty hard shot, could be done but placement would be super critical. Mine is 270 WSM, so it's a short magnum ( necked down magnum cartridge) with magnum-like powder charge.

I use a WinchesterSupreme CT 140gr which is a Nosler with polymer tip. Pricey up here at $56 a Box of 20 but they smoke anything CP3. Moose is an easy kill but shot placement is still critical. I practice a lot!!!!

nikster 07-17-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 274773)
While the Mods are deliberating, I'll chime in apolitically.

Dusted off my Dillon Square deal and loaded about 1000 rounds of 9mm over the past couple of evenings. "About" 1000 because I didn't count all the primers I spilled on the shop floor in the process...tiny little buggers.

Having a hard time finding powder in the local shops, though, but primers and bullets and brass readily available.

Got a pile of .223 brass ready for the Rock Chucker.

Anybody else reload?

Oh, I had to clean Cub parts off the bench to set up the presses. (cub cadet content just in case).






I use a dillon # 550b progressive. A REAL SWEET machine. Takes some time to get used to it. So easy to make a mistake. But once set up its a accurate loader, + or - 1 grain of powder. One just has to do his part.
Next weekend I gotta clear off my bench & load some 38's, 45's. & 223.
once set up I can & do load 500/600 loads an hour. :beerchug:

Nik,

I see nothing wrong in starting a post about shooting, guns, just keep it under the hunting/fishing thread & leave it be. Why have all this nay-sayers rattling of the sabres? If political than shut the post down. Keep politics out of it, thats simple. If your against guns or hunting "DONT LOOK."

cc_bob 07-17-2014 06:24 PM

I'm not much of a gun nut but I do appreciate the engineering that goes into them. So as long as no one is shooting cubs I'm happy :biggrin2:

kostendorf 07-17-2014 06:32 PM

Shotgun Wedding, ok I see. I'm using 130gr Winchester supreme ballistic silvertip ammo. Still expensive but not that expensive...

IACubCadet 07-17-2014 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 274751)
Unfortunately,
Topics like this always stray south and end up getting political. I've seen it happen on other forums. This thread is a topic just to see if it is allowed and there is already politics being pulled into it. I don't have anything against guns or gun ownership, but this is a cub cadet forum. Any reason to pull guns onto this type of forum? Aren't there forums out there discussing guns? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. We'll see what the mods decide. I don't care either way and they would be the ones watching those threads. :TwoCents:

I agree 100 percent. Its a garden tractor site last time I checked. Sure, other topics are discussed...but I highly doubt that they would cause that much political uproar or upset members.

olds45512 07-17-2014 06:41 PM

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heres a pic of my ruger charger, alot of people dont even know these exist because only about 44,000 of them were made. its a 10/22 built on a pistol stock and it is registered as a pistol. the stock and bi pod are factory but the barrel is a 8" hi desert dog bull barrel, i stripped the black finish from the receiver and polished it to match the barrel.

Sam Mac 07-17-2014 07:22 PM

Guys see post #2. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. If you have a question about if something is OK your welcome to PM me. Play nice and we will all enjoy. Yes I have fire arms and I'm a life long NRA member. That's as far as we will go politically.

olds45512 07-17-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 274822)
Guys see post #2. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. If you have a question about if something is OK your welcome to PM me. Play nice and we will all enjoy. Yes I have fire arms and I'm a life long NRA member. That's as far as we will go politically.

thanks for the response Sam

kostendorf 07-17-2014 07:41 PM

A BIG THANK YOU to all the moderators.

Jeff in Pa 07-17-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 274773)
While the Mods are deliberating, I'll chime in apolitically.

Dusted off my Dillon Square deal and loaded about 1000 rounds of 9mm over the past couple of evenings. "About" 1000 because I didn't count all the primers I spilled on the shop floor in the process...tiny little buggers.

Having a hard time finding powder in the local shops, though, but primers and bullets and brass readily available.

Got a pile of .223 brass ready for the Rock Chucker.

Anybody else reload?

Oh, I had to clean Cub parts off the bench to set up the presses. (cub cadet content just in case).

Yes I do reload. I have two threads on another forum going over step by step instructions using a single stage press for both center fire rifle and center fire pistol ammo. My words, my pictures and yes, you can share that will your friends.

I'm also a NRA Life Member

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Originally Posted by Jeff in Pa (Post 265219)
I did a couple threads on another forum with step by step instructions for reloading.

Center fire rifle ammo
http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/o...ifle-ammo.html

Center fire pistol ammo
http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/o...stol-ammo.html


Lanceskene 07-17-2014 08:35 PM

Havent reloaded for some time now but back a few years I picked up a Ruger #1 7mm STW before you could buy rounds over the counter, still have the Rock Chucker, case trimmer, scale... but they just collect dust.

any muzzleloader fans?... I have a Gonic 50mag and Knight 54cal, my property is zoned for archery, muzzleloader and shotgun so I tend to play with those more than the high power or handguns these days.

red56turbo 07-17-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 274774)
I agree, not everybody wants to be on 6 different forums and those saying that a little gun chat on a cub forum doesnt belong need to explain to me the reasoning for the general discussion area. Theres a thread going right now about off road vehicles pics and theres about a million forums dedicated to that subject. The mods will do what they want and thats there right but to those who say guns dont belong on the cub forum id like to point out that neither does most of the discussion here thats not cub related.

I was simply stating that any other forum I've been on that starts a gun discussion usually goes down in flames. Like I've said before, I don't have a problem with guns at all. It's a free country. But then someone will complain about a conceal and carry law and such and here comes the politics. Merk has been a mod before and has dealt with it. I think comparing four wheelers to guns is comparing apples to oranges. Gun rights and laws can get people more charged up than anything. I know I joined here to talk cubs and people can get off topic real easy. Never said guns don't belong here. Was just giving an opinion like everyone else. I really hope I'm wrong and the topic goes great for everyone seeing it's a sticky now. Everyone play nice and nothing will go wrong. :bigthink: :HeadScratch: :TwoCents:

olds45512 07-17-2014 11:27 PM

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heres some before and after shots of my gsg 1911 22. the frame and slide are made of zinc so one day i stripped the black and polished it. the muzzlebrake is from cw accessories and is mostly for looks. in the future id like to cerakote it but im unsure on a color scheme. this gun is awesome to shoot, everybody ive ever let shoot has went out and bought one.

zippy1 07-18-2014 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 274893)
heres some before and after shots of my gsg 1911 22. the frame and slide are made of zinc so one day i stripped the black and polished it. the muzzlebrake is from cw accessories and is mostly for looks. in the future id like to cerakote it but im unsure on a color scheme. this gun is awesome to shoot, everybody ive ever let shoot has went out and bought one.

Very nice alteration to the looks of the piece.:beerchug:
As for my opinion on this firearm discussion thread. I don't read gossip magazines, soap opera digest, inquirer rag to name a few, so if some are against this thread, do what I do in the check out isle, go on by it, out of sight out of mind. It's not like it is the first thing you see when you open the site.
Besides there may be some things learned from this thread that could save some of us a lot of headaches.
No one is force feeding anyone to read this thread, if it ain't your drink of choice pass.
I must applaud the mods for having some testicular fortitude to let it ride for now.

Lanceskene 07-18-2014 05:41 AM

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Yes Thx to the Mods;)

I like forums that have OT areas, you can get to know ppl better and often find you have similar interests or hobbys, and sometimes you end up meeting ppl in person that become long time friends, we had a couple from Italy visit us years ago and we still keep in touch even tho we arent involved with the main thing that got us together in the first place.... and I found my Cub Lo-Boy because I went to meet a guy from a forum about a Ford mower deck... didnt know he had the Cub till I pulled into his yard... took me a year to talk him out of it.

Nice job on the 1911, at least we know you arent a crook.... they wouldnt like anything so flashy Im sure..lol

Handguns are a bit of a pita around here... cant take them anywhere without a bunch of red tape so I only own one right now... an old H&R Trapper .22 7 shot revolver that was my Pops, and probably the first handgun I ever shot.

I work in metal fab and made myself a couple target stands last year to put out in the field so I'll find a pic here in a sec... they have a 3/8" x 1" flat bar stand(rounded on the facing edge for safety) with a 3/4" round bar on top, with two swinging 1/4" x 5" steel stop signs(but I ended up prefering them yellow).... they work well for small cal rifles/handguns, the swinging action defects the bullets nearly straight down, I repaint them when ever they get too chipped up to see the hits. Have one set out east of the back deck on the house... the other is out south of the front deck... always something to poke at while Im waitin for a gopher to pop up.

olds45512 07-18-2014 08:33 AM

Nice job on the steel targets, i had a set that were store bought that i really liked but someone stole them. Steel targets are the best, i can only shoot paper targets for about a half hour before getting bored but with steel targets i can shoot all day and still be having fun.

Sam Mac 07-18-2014 08:57 AM

I need to make something like that, well done! :beerchug:

sawdustdad 07-18-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 274775)
How do you like your square deal? Ive been wanting to pick on up for my 45 acp but i keep spending the money on cubs.:biggrin2:

I like the Square Deal press. It's only for pistol ammo and uses the Dillon dies, so it's not as flexible as the larger presses. I use it for .38/.357, 9mm and 44mag. I've had mine for 25 years. I don't use it very often, in fact, it's probably been 10 years since it was last used. I don't do a lot of shooting, too many other hobbies..cubs, boats, fishing, woodworking...But do enjoy a day at the range from time to time.

NRA member for 35 years.

I like the metal targets! We have a very nice silhouette range at the gun club down the road--along with 5 or 6 other ranges.

I have Ruger #1 in .223 with a heavy varmit barrel. It's an easy MOA rifle.

Looking now for a Mini-14 to play with.


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