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rwairforce 07-15-2014 11:59 AM

I have no idea???? but maybe you do.
 
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I spotted this good looking 1250 and having no experience with this unit I thought I would share it with all of you and ask for you to share you thoughts regarding this model and what it may be worth. I have not seen it other than this picture. It looks good and the owner did say that the paint is as good as it looks. The deck is 42 inch and isn't as nice so I'm thinking maybe someone repainted the tractor but I can't say for sure. He also stated that it smokes a little on startup but clears after a few minutes. It's not a fogger he said. Tires are all Carlisle and are in good shape he stated. Please help me put a value on this 1250.

Thanks,
Randy

Also, if you could provide me a good reason why I should buy another Cub that would be helpful as well.

OldCubby 07-15-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rwairforce (Post 274195)
I spotted this good looking 1250 and having no experience with this unit I thought I would share it with all of you and ask for you to share you thoughts regarding this model and what it may be worth. I have not seen it other than this picture. It looks good and the owner did say that the paint is as good as it looks. The deck is 42 inch and isn't as nice so I'm thinking maybe someone repainted the tractor but I can't say for sure. He also stated that it smokes a little on startup but clears after a few minutes. It's not a fogger he said. Tires are all Carlisle and are in good shape he stated. Please help me put a value on this 1250.

Thanks,
Randy

Also, if you could provide me a good reason why I should buy another Cub that would be helpful as well.



I'm not sure about the value of it, but I have that same cub I am restoring in hopes that it looks as good as that.....but if I were to guess its value. I'd say around $1000. But that is one sharp Cub! How much is he asking?

J-Mech 07-15-2014 12:29 PM

The 1250 is a great machine! I can't tell from the pic if it is a hydraulic lift machine, or a manual lift. It it is hydraulic, that's a big bonus! Can't go wrong. Repainted or not, doesn't matter. In my area, I'd say between $400-$500 with a deck.

cubcadet 07-15-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 274208)
The 1250 is a great machine! I can't tell from the pic if it is a hydraulic lift machine, or a manual lift. It it is hydraulic, that's a big bonus! Can't go wrong. Repainted or not, doesn't matter. In my area, I'd say between $400-$500 with a deck.

Agreed, gonna tell me I am wrong.:bigthink::biggrin2::ROTF2: wait, your a moderator now.:bigeyes:.:biggrin2:

J-Mech 07-15-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 274211)
Agreed, gonna tell me I am wrong.:bigthink::biggrin2::ROTF2: wait, your a moderator now.:bigeyes:.:biggrin2:

LOL! Nope. I think your right on! :beerchug:

j4c11 07-15-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rwairforce (Post 274195)
Please help me put a value on this 1250.

I would pay around $600.

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Originally Posted by rwairforce (Post 274195)
Also, if you could provide me a good reason why I should buy another Cub that would be helpful as well.

Need one for mowing, one for snow plowing, one for snow blowing etc...

OldCubby 07-15-2014 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=j4c11;274215]I would pay around $600.


They don't make tractors like these anymore. :drool2: You can do alot more with that cub then what you can you can do with a new garden tractor...I'd pay up to $1000 for one of those with a rebuilt engine, new paint and a clean deck....even more if it were hydraulic. But that's is just my :TwoCents:

cubcadet 07-15-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 274214)
LOL! Nope. I think your right on! :beerchug:

Thanks.:biggrin2:

j4c11 07-15-2014 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=OldCubby;274220]
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Originally Posted by j4c11 (Post 274215)
I would pay around $600.


They don't make tractors like these anymore. :drool2: You can do alot more with that cub then what you can you can do with a new garden tractor...I'd pay up to $1000 for one of those with a rebuilt engine, new paint and a clean deck....even more if it were hydraulic. But that's is just my :TwoCents:

Probably a matter of perspective and area, I paid $550 for my 1450 with a rebuilt engine, impeccable paint and tires, 3pt and hydraulic lift.

J-Mech 07-15-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldCubby (Post 274220)
They don't make tractors like these anymore. :drool2: You can do alot more with that cub then what you can you can do with a new garden tractor...I'd pay up to $1000 for one of those with a rebuilt engine, new paint and a clean deck....even more if it were hydraulic. But that's is just my :TwoCents:

And..... this is one of the reasons why the price on these is getting silly. Yes, I agree with you about how well they are built, but it's a 30+ year old machine. If it had been fully restored with a new motor and everything was brand new, then yeah, maybe a grand. But good paint doesn't make it a sound machine. The OP said nothing about it being rebuilt. Matter of fact, he said it smokes on start-up. If you are willing to pay $1000 for a nice QL, I have 2 I want to sell you! I don't mean to be/sound harsh, but a grand is way overpriced for any QL in this ones condition.

red56turbo 07-15-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 274211)
Agreed, gonna tell me I am wrong.:bigthink::biggrin2::ROTF2: wait, your a moderator now.:bigeyes:.:biggrin2:

Nick.............:Spank: :biggrin2:

rwairforce 07-15-2014 03:48 PM

Thanks everybody. I always enjoy reading the responses. He's asking $650 just to let you know. I didn't want you wondering all night...I might be able to talk him down to $500 but I'm not sure. I had him down to $550 over the phone. Regarding needing one for all the season....as you may notice, I already have a good number of them, just not one of these. LOL

Randy

johncub7172 07-15-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 274274)
I agree with Jonathan.

Nope. Not unless he got on it and operated it. Would not even consider two hundred until I went and checked it out. And as far as that goes, I have been around long enough to see some stunning Quiet Line models that were worth well over a thousand dollars. The fact is this, no one most of the time, will get every penny back that was put into the tractor making it look good. Either you commit and make the long term investment, or get out of the road. I'm afraid I'd thumb up my nose for an offer of a thousand for my 1450. At which point in time, the prospective buyer is free to go spend 15-2 grand on a box store junk brand with no customer service station.

cubcadet 07-15-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 274262)
Nick.............:Spank: :biggrin2:

:biggrin2:

Hand_108 07-15-2014 05:33 PM

Here is what I paid for my QLs. 1200- free. 1250 with hydro lift- 100. 1450 with blown motor and jenky snow blower and mower deck- 200 (yeah too much but I "wanted" it).. But I dont buy or own trailer queens either. Id never pay 500 let alone 600 for a QL. I would if it had a rear lift, tiller, dozer blade, snow blower, mower deck and all the parts for a brinly adapter. If it had a FEL id be on it like stink on... you know what. There are to many of them around that "look rough" but are hard working machines!! There is a 1200 10 miles from me right now for 150 (he is down from 250) on CL. I want it, but dont need it. If it goes to 100 im on it. Its a barn find also. But he knows nothing about it. Bought it at an auction. Thats the kind of machines I like. To each their own though. Just adding my $0.02

Take care.
John

yeeter 07-15-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rwairforce (Post 274195)
Also, if you could provide me a good reason why I should buy another Cub that would be helpful as well.

Ummmm......... :bigthink:

Ummmm....

Umm...

Doh!

Maxwelhse 07-15-2014 09:17 PM

If its a QL I would immediately plan on needing new ISO mounts, craddle mod, and DS biscuits at minimum. There's plenty of labor and cost involved in that.

It does LOOK nice, but I wouldn't go over $500, especially with a motor that smokes. If you want to keep it around for a long time, I would count on it needing $500-$750 of repairs including an engine rebuild. $1300 for a nice and correctly repaired (because you did it) QL with a new motor is pretty decent, IMHO, if you're planning to work some money out of it over several years.

drglinski 07-15-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxwelhse (Post 274307)

It does LOOK nice,

Likely because it's watered down. A seller on my local C/L likes to try to sell crappy old bicycles for big $$ by watering them down/WD40-ing them first to make them look more appealing in pics.

Just something to think about and watch out for.

Maxwelhse 07-15-2014 09:35 PM

GOOD point.. It *IS* wet in the pictures!!!

cfiles 07-15-2014 09:45 PM

Also, if you could provide me a good reason why I should buy another Cub that would be helpful as well.[/QUOTE]

Man, this is one that keeps getting me. My wife says how many is enough? I tell her," I don't know yet"

bkw3614 07-15-2014 10:20 PM

I have a 1250 that is affectionately called my 1250 Nightmare!

That being said, I love the tractor and paid $400 for it three years ago with a good engine. It needed ISO mounts, steering rebuild and an engine cradle modification. I put on new front tires, painted the white, and changed the Hytran. Currently, it needs a truniton rebuild.

You can expect to do all these things at some point with a Quietline. Still, they are a wonderful tractor. In the condition that you describe, I think $500 is about the top I would pay. But again, if 50 bucks is in the way of a deal, it will be for you to decide how much you want to pay for the enjoyment that you will get back from it.

J-Mech 07-15-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cfiles (Post 274324)
My wife says how many is enough? I tell her," I don't know yet"

That's the same answer I keep giving!!!

Recently though, I decided I had enough to keep me busy for a while. I stopped buying....... for now. Point is, you WILL know when you get enough. Some people that number is more than others. I now have 14 (counting parts 4 parts machines) and that makes me happy for now! :beerchug:

Yosemite Sam 07-16-2014 12:19 AM

1st off, I NEVER negotiate the price of ANYTHING until I'm there to see it in person with ??? much cash in my pocket. This prevents the seller from "thinking" that a deal was already "made" before I ever got there. (but that's just me)

2nd, all we know about this machine is that it smokes a little and it looks pretty decent when wet.

Options can make a difference in price, but what is really huge with a Q/L is, what has been done to it (and if it was done right) and what still needs to be done to it.

It's pretty easy to dump $400.00 - $500.00 into a QL that already has a good engine, $400.00 - $500.00 is just the nickle and dime stuff.

If it needs any real work (or parts) I think $300.00 would be about top dollar... and I live in the land of NO Cubs.

But you gotta go look at it first and decide how much you want it.

zippy1 07-16-2014 12:26 AM

When I first got into this crazy obsession with cub cadets there were a few members I would call for advice on how much is this tractor worth, how much for that tractor and so on. They would always give me an answer, but then I would get to thinking, some pockets are deeper than others, so basically it was still my decision in the end if it was worth it to me.
Now it comes down to how bad do I want it, and how much work and money am I willing to stick into one. For me it's not going to be for flipping purposes, that I buy a tractor. I buy a tractor to keep for myself, well intentionally anyway.
So what I'm trying to say is whatever you buy is only worth as much as your willing to spend. I've seen a particular tractor I want for sale, but either priced for more than I'm willing to pay, and I know they won't come down to what I'm willing to pay, or it's all jacked up and I'm not going to put the dollars into it to make it what it should be.:BlahBlah:

Maxwelhse 07-16-2014 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 274388)
1st off, I NEVER negotiate the price of ANYTHING until I'm there to see it in person with ??? much cash in my pocket. This prevents the seller from "thinking" that a deal was already "made" before I ever got there. (but that's just me)

Yeah, I never haggle on the phone unless the price is ludicrous and the drive is long. I bought my truck through CL and flat out told the dude he was $2k high and I wasn't going to make the drive to even both if he wasn't getting more realistic. I overpaid by about $1k (meaning he did come down $1k in email immediately), but I really wanted that specific set of options.

Sooo... Don't try to weasel someone down on the phone, but don't waste their (or your) time either. In tractor terms we're talking about a hundred bucks +/-....

...and never show up without as much cash as you're willing to spend +10%.

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2nd, all we know about this machine is that it smokes a little and it looks pretty decent when wet.

Options can make a difference in price, but what is really huge with a Q/L is, what has been done to it (and if it was done right) and what still needs to be done to it.

It's pretty easy to dump $400.00 - $500.00 into a QL that already has a good engine, $400.00 - $500.00 is just the nickle and dime stuff.

If it needs any real work (or parts) I think $300.00 would be about top dollar... and I live in the land of NO Cubs.

But you gotta go look at it first and decide how much you want it.
I think that's all very solid advice. My 1650 needed WAY more money than you're talking about when I bought it but I simply didn't know any better. Even though I paid $350 for it, I'm going to be about $2k past that with decent paint. I don't mind it now that I'm in that bed, but I would have passed on it if I had known better at the time.

druwl 07-16-2014 12:39 AM

I'm kinda sorta looking at this one. Don't need it but would like to have the plow that comes with it. Okay the cool chrome caps would be fun. It's listed at $250.

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6916aedb.jpg

I'm wondering if I can keep what I want and sell the rest for $250. Don't know & won't know till I see it. If I get it maybe I should spray it with water? lol

Maxwelhse 07-16-2014 12:47 AM

@$250 with a plow you can't screw it up... That is well below where you can get into trouble.

The plow will be $175 this winter by itself. Buy it. Do not pass go without it. Put a $75 deck under it and its $250 in mowing season all day long. Case in point... I bought a 1200 w/no motor for $50 (on the extreme Lew price) WITH a creeper... I made $400 on it and have a boatload of parts for my other WFs. BUT... I never intended to keep the 1200... There's the big difference.

OldCubby 07-16-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 274261)
And..... this is one of the reasons why the price on these is getting silly. Yes, I agree with you about how well they are built, but it's a 30+ year old machine. If it had been fully restored with a new motor and everything was brand new, then yeah, maybe a grand. But good paint doesn't make it a sound machine. The OP said nothing about it being rebuilt. Matter of fact, he said it smokes on start-up. If you are willing to pay $1000 for a nice QL, I have 2 I want to sell you! I don't mean to be/sound harsh, but a grand is way overpriced for any QL in this ones condition.

I did say I'd pay up to $1000 for everything you just said up there..the new motor, new paint, all the mods on motor mounts....basically I meant it would have to look and run like a new machine. Which to me, going to Lowes or Home Depot and looking at a new Cub, or John Deere. I'd be paying 2.5x that amount for a new machine. A new machine that isn't built nearly as nice as the old ones. My old man threw the 1250 I have beside the shed because it started smoking after 20 years of constant use. Now he has a toro with all the goodies, well had all the goodies cause half of them don't work anymore. The cruise control went out, had to get a new power steering pump, the motor already smokes on start up and this is all within in the first 10 years. So yea, the cub he is looking at is watered down. But some of the cubs I've seen watered down don't look half as good as that the one the OP is looking at. But then again, its just picture. Go take a look and decide what its worth to you. :beerchug:

And no, I don't want your two QL's as the one QL I have now is more then enough work now that I have it in a 1,000 peice's.:bash2:

sawdustdad 07-16-2014 09:25 AM

Going price around here for a running QL in decent shape, but in need of most wear parts replaced is $400-$500. At least that's how deep my lint-filled pockets are. :biggrin2:

Yosemite Sam 07-16-2014 09:56 AM

I also think that for most of us Cubaholics, the only reason we need to buy yet another one is: Because it's there and we want it to be here.

rwairforce 07-16-2014 12:59 PM

Thank you all very much for your response. This collection of Cub Folks is awesome! What fantastic and worthwhile information was provided. Thank you all again. As you all can see from my signature list I have a few different Cubs of the old variety and the Cyclops variety as well. I'm like Sam, I like the Cyclops for my mowing duties, I really like the 1864 with the 54" deck. I enjoy the strong framed tractors, the ones that don't twist when you go over uneven ground, like my twisting 2186. I mainly bought that one for the 18hp engine as a backup for my 1864. Sorry, back on topic....
I think I'll pass on this 1250. I really hate it when they wash them and take a photo when it's wet. Sort of deception to me. Lucky for me, I found the exact same 1250 on an older listing listed for $300 all dirty and a mess. The current owner probably gave $250 for it, washed it and is try to get $500 for it. I appreciate his efforts but this was just too obvious. I wouldn't give him more than $300 but I'm not even going to see it now. I've found a one owner 1641 with the same 54" deck on it that my 1864 has that I think I'm more interested in. It's up around $1500 but it certainly looks worth the money.

Thanks again all and sorry for the long response but I find I can talk about these yellow creature for a longtime and never tire of it.

Randy


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