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Steve149 07-02-2014 09:43 AM

Question about Cooling Fan Replacement
 
I finally got around to replacing the cooling fan as the one that was in there had no fins left. I noticed that when disassembling the unit the flexible coupling was straight; however, after cleaning up everything and repainting I put the new fan on and started to assemble everything I noticed that the flexible coupling is wavy after tightening up the bolts. Now I realize this it rubber and putting bolts through is going to distort its shape some. It may straighten up some when the shaft gets pushed back to line up the hole for the roll pin in the front, but that is a small amount. Looking in the service manual the picture in there shows the flexible coupling and it is some what distorted as well, but mine seems worse than that and before I go any further I had to ask cause that is a bunch of work to have it messed up if something isn't right!

Thanks!

olds45512 07-02-2014 10:01 AM

Every one ive ever seen has looked like you describe, to me its normal but others may have more onfo.

R Bedell 07-02-2014 10:33 AM

I have modified mine on my hydros. I use double flex discs on each end (when applicable). I drilled new coupler holes to accommodate same. I use 3/8" bolts long enough (1-1/2" IIRC) with Nylock Nuts to go through both discs. Then I tighten only to the point of being snug. After several years, mine are sill straight and work great.

charlie105 07-02-2014 10:43 AM

cooling fan replacement
 
The first thing I noticed reading your post was the mention of a " roll pin" in the drive shaft. I am reasonably sure it should be a solid "dowel pin". I did use a roll pin once on my narrow frame 105, and it sheared within a week. Maybe some better informed members will offer their insight ? I replaced my flex disc joint with a NOS part, and don't recall if it deformed or not. Good Luck, and happy trails. Steve (yeah tha's my name too)

charlie105 07-02-2014 10:45 AM

Roland; Can the front steel coupler on a 105 be replaced with a flex disc ? I think I'm going to hate it if you say yes !

R Bedell 07-02-2014 11:05 AM

Seems to me, IIRC, there was an adaption that could be done. I'll look through my Library.

Steve149 07-02-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie105 (Post 271032)
The first thing I noticed reading your post was the mention of a " roll pin" in the drive shaft. I am reasonably sure it should be a solid "dowel pin". I did use a roll pin once on my narrow frame 105, and it sheared within a week. Maybe some better informed members will offer their insight ? I replaced my flex disc joint with a NOS part, and don't recall if it deformed or not. Good Luck, and happy trails. Steve (yeah tha's my name too)

My neighbor who is into the cubs was telling me that this roll pin isn't of the normal type that you would think. Looking at the pin from the end it appears to be spiraled and I think that is how he referred to it. I know in my readings it made mention of a solid dowel, but that isn't the case on this.

R Bedell 07-02-2014 11:23 AM

The pin in the Drive Shaft(s) is a Solid Dowel Pin.

Steve149 07-02-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 271038)
The pin in the Drive Shaft(s) is a Solid Dowel Pin.

That is something...I just spoke to the local CC Dealer and they told me the the pin that I took out (spiral Roll pin) is what is supposed to be in it! Now I am really flumoxxed LOL!!!! No matter first things first I have to double check my work to see if the shaft needs to go rearward a bit more! ARRGH

R Bedell 07-02-2014 11:44 AM

Look in the Parts Manual. Counter people often get things wrong. BTDT.

Steve149 07-02-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 271041)
Look in the Parts Manual. Counter people often get things wrong. BTDT.

is there a link for the parts manual for the 149 on here? I have one but it doesn't show that part of the assembly...may be missing some stuff

R Bedell 07-02-2014 12:40 PM

This link has been posted many times and is in the Parts Resources Section..

http://www.cubcadet-parts-direct.com...FVFgMgodj1cABQ

timbo2 07-02-2014 12:49 PM

partstree shows a dowel for the 149. looks like it changed for the QL series.

Steve149 07-02-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by timbo2 (Post 271049)
partstree shows a dowel for the 149. looks like it changed for the QL series.

Well the parts lookup says dowel, guy at the CC Dealership says spirol, mine is a spirol pin. I guess I will use it till the ol girl decides to stop moving then I will know! The dowel would have to be tapered to allow it to stay in place but I would think that over time would not be good for the hole. Just a thought

Sam Mac 07-02-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie105 (Post 271033)
Roland; Can the front steel coupler on a 105 be replaced with a flex disc ? I think I'm going to hate it if you say yes !

Yes you can replace the coupler. Go to this thread and you'll see a couple ways to deal with the issue.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...t=31416&page=4

post #66 and post #79

charlie105 07-02-2014 03:22 PM

Thank you Sir.

mjsoldcub 07-02-2014 05:27 PM

As far as i know (which may not be much) the front one should be a dowel, as it is hardened and can shear if need be, sort of a sacrificial break in lew of something more costly to the driveline...the rear one should be a spirol pin, Which isnt a roll pin and which will not break...all this being said; i put spirol pins in both ends of mine when i did it...also i do the same mod mr bedell mentioned about the 2 flex disks, and slightly longer bolts...especially for the quietlines...

Steve149 07-03-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 271046)
This link has been posted many times and is in the Parts Resources Section..

http://www.cubcadet-parts-direct.com...FVFgMgodj1cABQ

Update on this...after I got home from work last nite I headed to the shop to take a 2nd looksee at this and I had to remove the shaft as the fan was set a bit too far forward, so I adjusted this and put everything back together. Too my surprise it all went back together well and I was mowing the yard within an hour. The only thing I did notice after mowing when I shut the deck down and just running the tractor around I could feel a vibration that I didn't notice before. I still have the tunnel cover off and was looking and it appears that the shaft and everything is running true. This vibration seems to be coming from the motor end. Maybe something isn't quite lined up right but it looks as it is!


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