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Texas Blues 06-09-2014 06:37 PM

Clutch Disk Differences Cub 1200
 
Howdy folks, need some advice on a clutch disk. I keep seeing them for sale at different places from anywhere between $27.00 to $50.00. The all look the same in the pictures. Some say "aftermarket" some say "no metal, just the fiber". I want to say that my OEM disk had a thin metal center sandwhiched between the fiber disks. Is this what the mean by "no metal"? Are these so called aftermarket ones trustworthy? I dont want to make a mistake and buy the lesser quality one. I see the oem part number is 961-3002, even the picture of an oem disk looks like all the others. Are they still made with a thin metal center? Any advice would be apreciated. Thanks, TB

cubby102 06-09-2014 06:54 PM

Both my gear drives have the afternoon earmarked fiber disk and it works just as well if not better then the originals. Ive never had them slip except one time and that was because it got water splashed into it while pulling some logs out of the woods and that was maybe a 2 second slip and it grabbed tight again.

Texas Blues 06-09-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cubby102 (Post 266110)
Both my gear drives have the afternoon earmarked fiber disk and it works just as well if not better then the originals. Ive never had them slip except one time and that was because it got water splashed into it while pulling some logs out of the woods and that was maybe a 2 second slip and it grabbed tight again.

Thanks cubby. Just so I understand what you mean, are you saying your after market disk has no metal center, and made of fiber all the way through? TB

J-Mech 06-09-2014 07:19 PM

No metal means it is an all fiber disk. Think of it like a brake pad. No metal was used in the compound that makes the disk. I have never seen a clutch disk with a metal center.

cubby102 06-09-2014 07:36 PM

Yes they are solid fiber. My 1000 had a metal center disk on it when I first got it and it was completely wore out ive never had the chance to use one thats in hood shape but in my mind I think the fiber one is better

Alvy 06-09-2014 07:53 PM

I've replaced all mine with aftermarket ones bought through Patton acres. 30 ish dollars or so, no problems. All of mine that were the original ones did have a metal center disk with fiber on either side. They all started to separate which is why I replaced them. No sure if the OE ones still one with metal in the center or not

Texas Blues 06-09-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cubby102 (Post 266121)
Yes they are solid fiber. My 1000 had a metal center disk on it when I first got it and it was completely wore out ive never had the chance to use one thats in hood shape but in my mind I think the fiber one is better

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Originally Posted by Alvy (Post 266124)
I've replaced all mine with aftermarket ones bought through Patton acres. 30 ish dollars or so, no problems. All of mine that were the original ones did have a metal center disk with fiber on either side. They all started to separate which is why I replaced them. No sure if the OE ones still one with metal in the center or not

Thanks guys, that's what I was looking for. I went and looked at my original, it too has a metal center. I will order the all fiber one and run with it. Dang near got all the clutch parts I need to proceed with the reassembly. Getting close! TB

sawdustdad 06-09-2014 11:05 PM

I've been using the OEM disks on all my gear drives--and if I recall correctly, all had the metal layer in the center. Never had one separate, though one disk on a tractor I purchased, had a disk in it that was coming apart. I would think the disk with the metal layer would be stronger.

Yosemite Sam 06-09-2014 11:23 PM

Personally, I always use the factory ones with the sandwiched metal disk.

My biggest fear is that, over time, the driver holes will woller or tear out.

The holes in some of the factory ones I've seen are pretty bad.

HOWEVER, I would bet that if you used your Cub like a "sane" person, the aftermarket ones would last a good long while, if the holes should tear out, you could always drill 3 more in a different location around the edge of the disk.

BUT, my Brother and I use my Cubs, so all bets are off when it comes to parts that may not be "top notch".

IIRC, someone here showed us pictures of a pretty worn out clutch disk a few days ago. The holes in it were BADLY worn.

darkminion_17 06-09-2014 11:26 PM

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You mean this one?
It had the metal in the middle.

Yosemite Sam 06-09-2014 11:37 PM

Yeah, that might be the one I was thinking of...

I wonder if my Brother had been using the tractor that, that one came out of?

darkminion_17 06-09-2014 11:45 PM

Doubt it unless he lives in pennsatucky....
that came off a 582 I had.

J-Mech 06-09-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 266178)
You mean this one?
It had the metal in the middle.

OK!! I apologize. I don't know why, but at the beginning of this thread, I thought the OP was talking about the "center", like the hole in the middle. Metal in the center like a grinder wheel. Yes, yes... I have seen both. I'm sorry for the confusion. :Forgot::Forgot:

Texas Blues 06-10-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 266178)
You mean this one?
It had the metal in the middle.

LOL! Dang darkminion, that disk looks like a Salavador Dali piece!

Yosemite Sam, yea it will be sane enough. Its just goin to be a mower, and the occasional branch dragger. I promise not to kick it too hard. Thanks, TB

finsruskw 06-10-2014 01:47 PM

Looks like big time operator abuse to me!

Yosemite Sam 06-10-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 266284)
Looks like big time operator abuse to me!

How can you tell that the operator was abused from the looks of a clutch?

J-Mech 06-10-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 266319)
How can you tell that the operator was abused from the looks of a clutch?

Because if he did that to a clutch, someone should have beat him...... :biggrin2:

darkminion_17 06-10-2014 08:58 PM

I put those bad ones in my po trophy room.

c69ss396 06-10-2014 09:57 PM

Here is the one that came out of my 122, as you can see it was coming apart. When I rebuilt my clutch I used all oem parts springs, bearing, roll pins and disc which was also fiber/metal. I figure if it lasted since 1966 why use something different?
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...psdcf7ef4d.jpg

darkminion_17 06-10-2014 10:25 PM

In 1966 they did not have the metal center, looks like a replacement at one time...

Texas Blues 06-10-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by c69ss396 (Post 266343)
Here is the one that came out of my 122, as you can see it was coming apart. When I rebuilt my clutch I used all oem parts springs, bearing, roll pins and disc which was also fiber/metal. I figure if it lasted since 1966 why use something different?
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...psdcf7ef4d.jpg

The only reason that I can think of, for using something different, would be because sadly things are not made as well as they were in 1966. Todays "OEM" parts are a shadow of the quality they once were. Now, if you could find some oem new old stock from back then, now that would be a reason to stick with it. Still though, I agree that the oem stuff offered by cub today may be better quality than some aftermarket parts. I guess you have to figure that its all made in china these days, so its a crap shoot most of the time. I'm just glad stuff is still available at all for these old machines! Thanks, TB

Yosemite Sam 06-10-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 266345)
In 1966 they did not have the metal center

Really? I guess this old dog can learn something new.

darkminion_17 06-10-2014 11:41 PM

Woof woof, I had a few 122's with the original disc in them.

c69ss396 06-11-2014 07:31 AM

This is what I went with I figured for $130 for all oem parts I couldn't go wrong.



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