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OffTime 04-23-2014 10:16 PM

WF Mule drive pulleys
 
I have a 129 that I am fixing up to be a general yard machine and garden worker. I just purchased a tiller for it and am wanting to rebuild the mule drive. I would like to replace the stamped steel pulleys with solid steel pulleys. Would anyone have any leads as to where I can get the solid pulleys? Part numbers?? NAPA, O'Reiley's, Oregon, Stens, Rotary, JD, etc, etc. Any input appreciated. Thank you.

Bob95065 04-23-2014 11:26 PM

+1 I need them too.

sawdustdad 04-24-2014 07:43 AM

Mule drive pulleys are available at both these sponsors though they don't look like solid steel. Someone else will surely come along with a solid steel version...

http://ccspecialties.org/implementparts_2.html

http://ihccw.com/mowerparts.html

DoubleO7 04-24-2014 07:44 AM

check out Sugarmaker's threads on his 129 refresh of tiller and mule drive.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...640#post255640

darkminion_17 04-24-2014 09:16 AM

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These are nos, they are the correct pulleys for the tiller mule drive, IH 493164 R91.

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 257009)
These are nos, they are the correct pulleys for the tiller mule drive, IH 493164 R91.

Are they for sale?

darkminion_17 04-24-2014 10:33 AM

I might have one used one,I called one place and it is $70 each wow.The good thing with these you remove the snap ring and replace the bearing when it wears out.

I am sure that mc master carr has something like it.let me know if you need measurements.

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 10:41 AM

Not sure but I may have a couple in need of bearings, gotta dig through my stash of stuff that looked like it was to good to trash that I have no use for but I better save it cause I may need it someday. One of the reason our shops are too small. :biggrin2:

I will report back with my findings.:beerchug:

Bob95065 04-24-2014 01:43 PM

I am looking for a pair too. Anyone know a source?

danfeste 04-24-2014 03:23 PM

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I just rebuilt a pair of solid pulleys. The bearings were $3.57 each from usabearingsandbelts.com the part number is 6300-2RS. They are a metric bearing sealed on both sides, size 10x35x11mm. The brand of them is RB Tech, and the quality rating was better than a SKF bearing which was $30+. I have tilled with them a few hours so far and they seem to be working good. So if you can find a set with bad bearings you can go this route.

OffTime 04-24-2014 05:03 PM

I don't really care if they have bad bearings or not. I have easy access to bearings. If someone would have a set of pulleys that you would be willing to part with, PM me and give me a price. Having the snap rings included with the pulleys would be nice as well, but not necessary. Thank you.

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 257019)
Not sure but I may have a couple in need of bearings, gotta dig through my stash of stuff that looked like it was to good to trash that I have no use for but I better save it cause I may need it someday. One of the reason our shops are too small. :biggrin2:

I will report back with my findings.:beerchug:

Well it turns out that the PO had the correct pulleys in the extra parts that came with the 149 when I picked it up. I also have one with no bearing. :beerchug:

OffTime 04-24-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 257085)
Well it turns out that the PO had the correct pulleys in the extra parts that came with the 149 when I picked it up. I also have one with no bearing. :beerchug:

Sam, I would take two of the three. You choose whichever one you would like to keep and PM me with a price for the other two, if you are willing to part with them. Thank you.

darkminion_17 04-24-2014 05:41 PM

I think Sam is keeping his, :bigthink:

I called the local case ih dealer and they want $87 each, wowza

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OffTime (Post 257087)
Sam, I would take two of the three. You choose whichever one you would like to keep and PM me with a price for the other two, if you are willing to part with them. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 257093)
I think Sam is keeping his, :bigthink:

I called the local case ih dealer and they want $87 each, wowza

Sam is keeping at least 2 of the 3. I may consider selling the one that needs a bearing. Bearing number on the other 2 is NICE 7842-5, that probably would not include the spacer that fits into the bearing bore.

OffTime 04-24-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 257094)
Sam is keeping at least 2 of the 3. I may consider selling the one that needs a bearing. Bearing number on the other 2 is NICE 7842-5, that probably would not include the spacer that fits into the bearing bore.

As a matter of fact, I think I have a bushing that goes into the bore. I'll handle the bearing easily enough. You consider selling me one?? I could at least put that one on the load side and maybe locate another one somewhere else along the way. I checked McMaster Carr and didn't find what I was looking for.

Is there anyone else that has one for sale? Lew, what about the ones you had pictured? Any other leads anyone?

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OffTime (Post 257119)
As a matter of fact, I think I have a bushing that goes into the bore. I'll handle the bearing easily enough. You consider selling me one?? I could at least put that one on the load side and maybe locate another one somewhere else along the way. I checked McMaster Carr and didn't find what I was looking for.

Is there anyone else that has one for sale? Lew, what about the ones you had pictured? Any other leads anyone?

Sent you a PM about the pulley

Sam Mac 04-24-2014 07:48 PM

I'll take the one without the bearing to the machine shop and find out what it will cost to make a few for you guys.

OffTime 04-24-2014 08:14 PM

Great idea, Sam. I was thinking of turning out a pair on my own lathe, but I didn't have a pattern to go off of, so I was kind of lost there. Keep us posted with any updates. Thanks.

darkminion_17 04-24-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OffTime (Post 257119)
Is there anyone else that has one for sale? Lew, what about the ones you had pictured? Any other leads anyone?


You would be better off with a used one. The ones I have are not for sale.:BlahBlah:

Berwil 04-24-2014 10:47 PM

Is this close? I'm just going by looks as I don't have any to compare to.
Idler Pulley

Bill

OffTime 04-25-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Berwil (Post 257187)
Is this close? I'm just going by looks as I don't have any to compare to.
Idler Pulley

Bill

Bill

I looked at that already. Right idea, but the ones I need are 3" and these are 4" It might not be impossible that these would work, but I'm not sure and I would rather have the right ones. Thanks for checking anyway.

Bob95065 04-25-2014 09:09 AM

Sam,

Please let me know when you have a price. I need 2 for my tiller.


Bob Elliott

Sam Mac 04-25-2014 09:13 AM

Back with price soon, I'm on the way to the shop in a couple minutes.

Sam Mac 04-25-2014 11:05 AM

OK it looks like the pulleys with the 2 snap rings will be around $37.00 ea. I'm trying to verify if the bearings that I have in my pulleys (NICE 7842-5) are the same as the 6300-2RS that danfeste posted about. NICE is no longer in business so I called USA bearings.

Sam Mac 04-25-2014 01:23 PM

Guys

After talking to a couple bearing reps, the bearings that came in the factory Cub pulleys are NLA. What I'm thinking about doing is to make the pulley slightly thicker so that we can run the same bearing that all the other mule drive pulleys use. Shouldn't make much difference. What do you guys think? I'll need to order at least 6 so if I get commitments for the 6 I'll proceed.

OffTime 04-25-2014 10:17 PM

Sam, do you know which bearing that would be? Is it the 6300-2RS Some very common bearings that most people have access to are 6201, 6202, and 6203. I would think that a 6201 would be a good bearing to use. I am about ready to commit to two pulleys, but I would like a little more information on the bearing first. Thanks again for diving into this for all of us.

Sam Mac 04-26-2014 07:21 AM

Matt

Planning on something in the 6200 family
http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/CTG...-Ball-Bearings

OffTime 04-26-2014 01:07 PM

Any of those would work and are readily available. I have a bushing that fits the 6203 bearing to bush it to 3/8. That bushing is readily available through Rotary, Stens, or Oregon. I would have to investigate on other sizes of bushings. I commit to two pulleys. If you can't get a commitment on four more let me know. I might be willing to buy more than two, but would rather not at this point. Thank you.

OffTime 04-30-2014 10:28 PM

Hello Sam. From reading your posts, I know that you are a busy man. Just wanted a little update on the mule drive pulleys if you know any more. Thanks for helping.

Sam Mac 05-01-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OffTime (Post 258655)
Hello Sam. From reading your posts, I know that you are a busy man. Just wanted a little update on the mule drive pulleys if you know any more. Thanks for helping.

I have not gotten any firm commitments so I have not done any more on this. I'll need to order at least 6 so if I get commitments for the 6 I'll proceed. Only thing I did was to decide that if I make them I'm going to use a 6203 bearing because you can pick them up at TSC along with the 5/8" X 3/8" shoulder bushings.

OffTime 05-01-2014 08:23 AM

I will see what I can do. I may end up purchasing more pulleys than I first wanted to buy. I certainly want two. I'm not sure about the other four. I will have to get back with you. BTW, the 6203 bearing is metric and the ID of the bearing or the OD of the bushing is 17 mm, not 5/8. 5/8 is just slightly smaller than 17 mm, so a 5/8 bolt will easily go through a 6203 bearing.

Bob95065 12-25-2014 10:00 AM

Did anything happen with this? Put me down for (2) pulleys if you are planning on making any.

gdheck 12-25-2014 11:06 AM

Just found this discussion. Put me down for a pair of pulleys.

darkminion_17 12-25-2014 12:10 PM

These will work.correct part #for a tiller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-V-IDLER-...item3ce637a6ea

Bob95065 12-25-2014 02:12 PM

I thought the OP was going to have sets machined that take the replaceable bearing? That's what I would like to get.

gdheck 12-25-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob95065 (Post 301888)
I thought the OP was going to have sets machined that take the replaceable bearing? That's what I would like to get.

I was looking for the replaceable bearing style too.


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