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davbell25413 03-08-2014 08:13 PM

Kohler KT17 No Start: Bad Coil?
 
682 Hydro with KT17 Lhead twin horz. shaft

New points, condensor, getting 12v when key is on when using ohmmeter on coil, voltage drops to 9.30v when cranking when using ohmmeter on coil, points open/close when cranking and points gapped to .020. Just wanna know if Im missing anything to check before dumping $130 in coil assembly?

R Bedell 03-08-2014 08:22 PM

How about getting that Battery checked. 9.3V seems low to me.

davbell25413 03-08-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 247695)
How about getting that Battery checked. 9.3V seems low to me.

The battery isnt any good but I had 950amp jump box on it when I had it cranking. Thought about buying new battery and new battery cables. The positive cable looks like it caught fire by a PO owner.

darkminion_17 03-08-2014 09:07 PM

Looks like you need a new battery.
BTDT

davbell25413 03-08-2014 09:24 PM

Then why wouldnt it start with the 950amp jump box? What size battery do I use? I thought about using one of Duralast Gold batteries that 425 amp. Thats what I used on the Briggs Lhead twins.

R Bedell 03-08-2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

The positive cable looks like it caught fire by a PO owner.
How about a new battery and Cable.

cubby102 03-09-2014 01:26 AM

I had a 782 that was (and still is even after professional tuning) a real bear to start if the battery voltage drops even a slight bit. As long as it has a strong charged battery it lights right off.

Mcamp 03-09-2014 08:04 AM

Pull both your plugs out then push them back into the plug wires and lay them down on the eng. then crank it over and check for spark at the plugs. also a good time to check compression.

davbell25413 03-09-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcamp (Post 247757)
Pull both your plugs out then push them back into the plug wires and lay them down on the eng. then crank it over and check for spark at the plugs. also a good time to check compression.

Spark plugs are new. Getting 90-100psi on each cylinder. Going back to edit my first post.

R Bedell 03-09-2014 08:14 AM

You HAVE to have a minimum of 10.5V at the Ignition Coil for it to fire correctly.

davbell25413 03-09-2014 10:17 AM

Ok, Ill try new battery and battery cables. I'll report back if it works now or still having no start issues.

Sam Mac 03-09-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by davbell25413 (Post 247781)
Ok, Ill try new battery and battery cables. I'll report back if it works now or still having no start issues.

It won't hurt to replace the cables with a larger size and run a ground straight from the battery to the engine block, ask me how I know.

davbell25413 03-09-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 247797)
It won't hurt to replace the cables with a larger size and run a ground straight from the battery to the engine block, ask me how I know.

Ok, Right now the ground is under seat and bolts to frame next to battery. All I have is 4 or 6 gauge battery cable.

Sam Mac 03-09-2014 12:29 PM

Run the largest stuff you have. Crappy grounds are one of the most common issues with Cubs. Look through some of the other hard to start threads that have been posted this year. When I do one I use welding cable and I solder the ends on. You can pick it up at Tractor Supply.

gsomersjr 03-09-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 247805)
Run the largest stuff you have. Crappy grounds are one of the most common issues with Cubs. Look through some of the other hard to start threads that have been posted this year. When I do one I use welding cable and I solder the ends on. You can pick it up at Tractor Supply.

Welding cable is good stuff. If you're unskilled like me, and can't solder, you can pick up a 1 gauge or larger battery cable at an auto supply with the ends already on. Just give them the length you would like.

I have a 782/KT17 with a no-start (but used to) so I'm following this thread closely. I'm starting with a better ground.

Alvy 03-09-2014 02:00 PM

Soldering cables is easy, you cut small pieces of solder off inside the lug and fill every gap with them, heat the lug with a torch until solder boils, stick the stripped cable into the boiling solder and let it cool for a minute while holding it. Then heat shrink and done, works every time. Always good to wear big gloves and do it out in front of you, in case some solder comes out when you put cable in.

davbell25413 03-09-2014 05:05 PM

Thanks for info on soidering battery cables together. I have the HF hydaulic battery cable crimper. It can do 0-14 gauge battery cable.

Sam Mac 03-09-2014 07:02 PM

Crimp is OK but solder is better. I just put the terminal end in the vise, heat it with a propane torch, melt rosin core solder into it the slip the cable into the molten solder, heat it a little while longer to get the solder into the cable strands then let it cool. Heat shrink and your done.


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