982 hydro dipstick
 

Pulled the dipstick out of the hydro on the 982 the other day and have question about how it locks in place. It's not a simple twist style that locks in with a 1/4 turn. It has a long rubber plug section with a threaded bolt going though it. Does it just push in place or are you supposed to be able to twist the T-handle and swell the plug--I've seen several of that style on farm tractor engines. Anyway, nothing was trying to rotate, so it either has "issues" or I'm complicating the situation by trying to turn the handle.

How about a picture of this Hydro Dipstick..???

Didn't take any pics. I checked the online parts diagrams and could only find one that was located toward the rear, I think that is where the one on my 2072 is. This one has to be accessed through the small panel just below the front of the seat. I didn't think it had one, I accidentaly saw it while we were winching it on the trailer.

Been a while since I had mine off but I think you just twist it to the right to swell the rubber plug. It should get hard to pull out quick. Doesn't have to be terribly tightened.

Thanks, that's what I was thinking, mine just didn't want to turn. I was in a hurry so I just put it back in. I'll address it when I drain and refill the hydro.

IF...your dipstick is OEM (903-0911) then it twists about 180° from on to off.

Boy, I sure can't remember what the dipstick was like on my 982. Long gone now.........The older IH farm tractors like the 560, 806, 1206, etc. had the dipstick you'd turn to tighten the rubber plug. A picture would really help in this situation.

It's the same as the old IH's. Turn it to tighten the rubber plug, unscrew it to loosen. If it won't turn, fix it.

Until he shows a pictures of what has has got.........speculation is infinite.

Unless it has been changed to the incorrect dipstick, I'm sure.

It looks like the ones in a couple of our farm tractor engines. Something must be frozen or stripped, might get a chance to pull it back out tomorrow. Next time I'm over at my dad's I'll try to look in his parts books and see if it shows 2 different styles. I never could find but one listed online. I personally prefer a well worn and proven parts book when I have access to it over online manuals.

The correct dipstick as stated before is: 903-0911. There is only ONE dipstick available. It took me less then one minute to find the dipstick at the Cub Cadet Parts Lookup Site. Further, the Parts Look up site gives the same image and part number as my paper version.

Roland,
The early 982's had a dipstick in the rear top trans cover. The square one on top. If you look at the parts book for the cast iron rear, it only shows the cover in the pic WITHOUT the dipstick in it. It is part number 10. Just below that in the description, it lists the dipstick itself, it is part number 144777-C2. It is NLA. Also, IIRC, this dipstick was offered only if the tractor had the rear 3pt and PTO, as you couldn't get to the check plug to check oil level.

Here is a pic of the original cover with the dipstick in it.
Note: This is for the cast iron rear ends ONLY.

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982s with the cast iron rear have the dipstick in front of the battery toward the tunnel cover.

J Mech,It took me to long to get a pic,:biggrin2:

Beat ya! LOL! :beerchug:

Thanks guys, that's the one. I didn't even think about looking at the footnotes to see if it was listed separate, kind of surprised it would be. This Cadet actually only has 3pt, doesn't appear to have ever had a rear PTO. I'll try to get it freed up and working tomorrow.

If you can't get it to work, I'm pretty sure it is the same dipstick, only shorter, used on the 407 engines in like an 856 IH tractor. :beerchug:

I can measure the tube on this one and tell you what size it is.

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Well guys. I have looked back again at both the TC-193 paper version as well as the on line parts look-up and I can NOT find the dipsticks you picture.:Work:

The Cast Iron rears had the "filler hole" in the rear cover and was used until serial number 719,999. Starting at S/N: 720,000 & higher they used the dipstick as I previously posted.

:bigthink:
So, I am wondering, if these dipstick you picture are a PO Mod. I would think if it was standard production, it would appear in the Parts Manual.

I am still waiting for the Original Poster to post a picture.

The pictures in the parts books are incorrect. If you look up the top cover for the 982 SN# 719999 and down, it lists the top cover (#10) as part number IH-144744-C2. Right below that in the description it lists the dipstick for it. Part number IH-144777-C2. If you look up a 782 serial number 719999 down, same cover it is part # IH-394090-R1. These rear housings are exactly the same. It is the pics on the 982 blowout that are incorrect. I am 100% sure it is not a PO mod. There is a picture of this tube in the owners manual for the 982 on page 14. It is the manual in the tech section, I do not know the service number for the book. :beerchug:

http://ccmanuals.info/pdf/982%20IH%2...s%20Manual.pdf

Roland, don't be offended but have you ever been told you are a "Doubting Thomas" ? Two folks have already posted pics of what and where I described. A couple more seem to remember this setup. And you still will not believe unless you get photos from me? So if this doesn't look factory to you then what? I did a quick glance in my IH parts manual and one of the rear ends lists the tube and dipstick at the end of the parts list but they are not shown.
Regarding parts books being entirely accurate, don't bet on it. My dad spent 23 years selling parts and managing the shop at an IH dealer. I worked there part time 20 years ago. Practically everything we had were physical parts manuals (not computer or micro-fiche) and occasionally there were notes and corrections hand-written in the books. I imagine what was scanned to go in the online parts books was simply the best available. Considering IH was in financial trouble and preparing to sell-off Cadet, I can see them not fixing/upgrading the manuals or bothering to tell MTD.

:beatdeadhorse:

Here ya go guys, from my famous manual stash:biggrin2:, right out of the original IH 982 manual
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3b92eac9.jpg
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...psb79d3d27.jpg

Well that possibly explains what the access hole is for on my 782
Always wondered why It was there, because it was off location to service the check/relief valves.

--thinking they used the same stamping dies for those models??

Well, I learned something today and discovered another Cub Cadet discrepancy.

The Owner's manual show the feature but the parts manual does not. Go figure....:bash2:

Roland,
Mom always said:
"When we are done learning is when they lower us into the ground"
Mom was always right, Ha,LOL!

I was just thinking the same thing? I have looked and saw no reason for that little access door in front of my seat.

Told you before we think alike, must be a Michigander thing,Ha,LOL
(or too much snow/cold)

I always thought the little door in front of the seat was for the Manual Transmission Gear Shift Lever. The seat pans are the same for Manual Transmissions as well as Hydros. :Huh:

Probably all those fumes, from having to work on our Cubs in a cold / closed garage!

That would explian it too, I hadn't thought about the manuals.

I think quite a bit was unearthed regarding this issue. You mention discrepancies in the manuals, look at the pull tab in the photo posted from a manual vs. the photos of actual parts posted. The parts show a T-handle (so you can twist the top to tighten the rubber plug) The manual shows a dipstick with a pull tab such as on an older car. Were the manuals done with some type of prototype dipstick? Did some clever engineer/designer find and borrow the expansion style dipstick from the tractor division? I guess we'll never know.

Regarding the little door you remove to access the dipstick, I too have always wondered what exactly was its purpose.

For what it's worth, dad is 83 and has been around Cadet since 1968. When I told him I was going to check the fluid on the dipstick he said he didn't think it had one. I assured him I saw one while loading the mower. When I did find how to get to it, he had a bit of bewilderment on his face not knowing about it. I'll let him know today this was on the ones with 3 pt hitch. They never sold a Cadet with 3pt and very few with the sleeve hitch.

Thanks again to everyone that dug deep into your books and took photos to help figure out what setup I have going on.

Mine also has the expanding plug
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...psc1605c9e.jpg

My blue ribbon IH service manual does show the expanding plug too, I assume they changed it to prevent any chance of it popping out.
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...ps20eee03d.jpg

Unfortunately I have bad news about it only with three point:beer2: I got my 982 from the 2nd owner who only had it a few months, and it never had three point until I added it:bigthink:

All the cast rear 982's i've looked at had the dipstick,maybe to ease dealer install of 3pt:bigthink:My 982's both have the dipstick and the one never had 3pt.,i made a sleeve hitch for it years ago.

Guess the 3pt theory was in error. I haven't gotten around to pulling the dipstick back out to try to get it to tighten up--I've spent my morning tweaking/cleaning the carb--successfully it appears as it now runs without the choke on.:biggrin2:

Pulled the dipstick and got everything freed up, it now tightens as it should. You can see from the photo someone has wrenched on it with a pair of channelocks or vise-grips. I still need to pick up supplies to service the hydro. I want to run it around some first to see if any leaks arise.