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Masmith 01-17-2014 05:43 PM

102 won't turn over
 
I recently bought a "one owner" 102 all complete. It has been rewired at some point but it was done very good. It hasn't been started in at least 20 years. The motor turns by hand and I very briefly touched the battery charger to the S/G and it started to turn. Electric issues are not my strong point. Would the first two places to start be the key/ignition and solenoid?

R Bedell 01-17-2014 06:00 PM

There are only two devices in the 102 start circuit. (1) There is the Ignition (or Key) Switch. and (2) a Safety Switch connected to the Brake Pedal that has to be depressed to engage the circuit.

So, it can be either of those device(s), a bad or broken wire or connection, or lastly, incorrectly wired.

You can go to the Technical Library Section and D/L the Wiring Diagram for your assistance.

Masmith 01-17-2014 07:16 PM

102
 
I changed out the ignition switch and disconnected the clutch safety wires and still nothing. I don't think it was wired wrong because it was obviously used after it was re-wired. Any more thoughts?

Alvy 01-17-2014 07:21 PM

There is also the starter solenoid that is down stream from the key switch and clutch switch. Positive starts at battery then through both of those switches to energize solenoid in the start position.the solenoid carries the higher amperage circuit from battery to s/g. Get yourself a cheap 12 volt test light and test this circuit. Solenoid is mounted inside dash behind battery

austin8214 01-17-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Masmith (Post 237779)
I changed out the ignition switch and disconnected the clutch safety wires and still nothing. I don't think it was wired wrong because it was obviously used after it was re-wired. Any more thoughts?

Disconnecting those wires on the safety switch will make it impossible to start. Cut the connectors off and twist the wires together. And as already mentioned go to the tech section and download the wiring diagram. Educate yourself before you have a real mess on your hands.

Alvy 01-17-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by austin8214 (Post 237784)
Disconnecting those wires on the safety switch will make it impossible to start. Cut the connectors off and twist the wires together. And as already mentioned go to the tech section and download the wiring diagram. Educate yourself before you have a real mess on your hands.

Good catch although I wouldn't recommend cutting the wires. Use a paper clip to jump them out if you have to temporarily of course if you don't have the test light or make a jumper with spade terminals.

darkminion_17 01-17-2014 09:19 PM

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or use one of these.

Masmith 01-17-2014 10:28 PM

102
 
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I haven't done anything yet. The sad part is I don't even want it. I bought it to keep it from going to the scrap yard. I only have WF Hydros.

ACecil 01-17-2014 11:09 PM

Not a bad looking 102 at all. Maybe, you can put it in the For Sale section, if you have no use for it. :beerchug:

R Bedell 01-18-2014 07:19 AM

Lew:

I think that is an excellent tip. :ThumbsUp:

Masmith 01-18-2014 11:09 AM

102
 
That is my plan. I was sure another cub guy would want it. I was just trying to get it running just to out of curiosity.

ACecil 01-18-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Masmith (Post 237849)
That is my plan. I was sure another cub guy would want it. I was just trying to get it running just to out of curiosity.

:IH Trusted Hand:

johncub7172 01-18-2014 12:03 PM

Nice save from the scrap yard! Can't see something like that being tossed for .08-.10 cents a pound. Cleaned up, the 102 would look great! Again, nice save!

R Bedell 01-18-2014 12:08 PM

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Can't see something like that being tossed for .08 -.10 cents a pound
Me either.

yesmar74 02-09-2014 06:41 PM

102 saved
 
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Attachment 47071 Well I bought that 1966 102 from Mike and here it is. First picture below is before new paint. Runs like a new one and seems like one heck of a nice tractor. The original engine at some point had been swapped for a 12 hp. The starting issues were dirty connections on the solenoid, and the clutch safety switch and a poor ground connection. After getting it started it spit and sputtered and back fired out the carb and wouldn't idle. The points were fouled and the timing was way off. After all the adjustments were done and a good carb cleaning the engine starts right up and runs like a top. The clutch looks to be almost new and the transmission and brakes work fine. I give it a good cleaning and removed most of the old paint and gave it a new paint job. I'm sure glad Mike saved this from being scrapped. I've had my I open for a nice complete 102 for some time. (because) When I was growing up the neighbor girl mowed her parents yard with a 102. So I had to find one because that neighbor girl has been my wife for almost 40 years.


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Cubcrazy 02-09-2014 06:57 PM

Nice looking 102!:beerchug:

cubcadet 02-09-2014 07:06 PM

Nice looking 102.:beerchug:

EricR 02-09-2014 07:13 PM

Very nice, I to have a soft spot for the 102's as that was my dad's first IH cub, :beerchug:.

ACecil 02-09-2014 08:31 PM

You have a sharp 102!


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