How rare is a Kohler K341A?
 

Is it going to be like finding a needle in a hay stack to find one of these? I'd like to have some fun and really build up one of my WF tractors. I thought it might be cool to put one of these in there.

The only cub I'm aware of that came with it was the 169....not exactly the most common bird out there

Yeah that's what I thought. I think there was only a very few thousand of them made. Maybe I can snag a 12 or 14 and have some fun building those out :-) I have no real need here but to have some fun hahaha

A 14 was a little more common. But if you wanted to a k341aqs is a little more common. The 1650s had those a few minor wiring changes and you would be good to go. Plus a electric pto could be a plus

Cool! I'll keep my eyes out for one of these :-)

Cub cadet isn't the only company that used Kohler motors. In other words, the 169 isn't the only thing a K341A was ever used for.

Very good point. When I started looking up that other engine mentioned above, JD tractors seem to rise to the top of the Google Charts. I'm just looking for a 16hp engine that will fit into a WF tractor like a 108. Again, I'm just having fun here. Not looking to keep things stock. Don't care if I have to cut or weld a little. Really don't even need the power since the 10hp is more then enough. That being said I also don't really need 4 and counting cubs on my lawn and happy to have them HAHAHA. :beerchug:

What would be really neat is to find a KT 17 series II or equivalent to stick in a gear drive if it wasn't a ton of work. I have never really looked into doing it, but has been a topic of interest for me. You could probably (the reason I say probably is because there's always the alternative) find one of those for as much as the 16hp single cylinder, AND get a pressurized oil system as a bonus. And who can resist the sweet sound of a twin engine barking away?! :beerchug: Just my .02

Could always just find a 582 and drop in the kt. But I wouldn't think its be much different then running the stock Briggs..... maybe a v twin would fit in a wide-frame a bit better then the opposed..... man now ya got the gears in my head turning

OR....look for a 1806.

Here is one

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/grd/4220035833.html

I want one BAD.... but that's a little steep, even considering the condition.... wrong color, no decals.... and that stack, what's with that? Does it even have the M-18 in it anymore? Just sayn. :beerchug:

Older Case tractors had them....I just seen 3 at an auction today.

I think they had the "wide base" block in the case though didn't they? They won't fit in the cub. There were two different K341 blocks. A narrow base, and a wide. If there were others I don't know.

I just bought one of them 341's last week for $20 from a friend of mine. It had been in a flood but was very saveable. It had the wide base block bottom. I traded it to someone else for a very low hour HH100 Techumsah engine for a MF10 I am going to restore. I didn't check the block bottom but wonder if a cub oil pan would fit one.

JD's and Wheelhorses use the same oil pan setup ,but to use it in a cub I was told you need to weld up the block,then put a cub one on it.PTO end is larger than a cub also.

Kelly,
That question was brought up here not too long ago, Don Voit (dvogtvpe) said the blocks are different. I didn't know that until then. As many engines as he's rebuilt, I'd say that is correct.

Post #'s 5,6,7.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=27733

PTO end of the block? Or the crank? :bigthink:

Pto end of the crank.

That's fixable though. Turn it down, or swap cranks.

Yep.
I have sold a few of those non cub 16 hp motors to pullers.They get them to work on a cub cadet.
Amazing what a good welder can do.

Yes, yes it is. I have one available to me.... but haven't bought it because I don't know what kind of $$ I'd have to spend to get it to fit. I know they used the narrow block in something else, cause I recently found one in my local mower junk yard. It was orange, and not in anything. Probably get it on the next "go round". LOL! :beerchug:

Older Power Kings used kohlers also.

Sunday I started my K341ASQ in my 1000 for the first time, it purred like a kitten, it will be a monster. It has a Kirk crankshaft balance kit, Kirk built cam, ceramic coated piston, n more. Word to the wise, .010 over pistons are a fortune for these K341s. I've got a 6 pin clutch driver, kevlar clutch, etc in it. I hope to be at a plow day this spring with it. I think when I'm done this thing will have be painted Red.

1806 - got one in my shed, sadly its in poor shape. Play in the crankshaft of the M18, bad clutch, bad creeper, messed up throttle cable, I could go on and on, but it ran and drove nice when I test drove it in the COLD weather last winter. I traded a 125 and 123 for it, my thought was if it runs I'm doing the deal. Well I should have looked a bit closer. I now figure it has survived the worst part of its life, it will be nice again some day! Actually I think it will become a 1800 for I sold the creeper prior to me knowing how rare this model is.

So it really looks like if I want straight bolt on I'm looking for a 12/14/16 hp k engine unless I want to get creative right? Of these I'm thinking the 12/14 are going to be the easier of the 3 to find. Will any of the QL engines bolt right on? I can live with some hood fab'ing to get one in.

Yes I think you are correct.

The QL Engines (ASQ Engines) don't use the Starter-Generator so you'll probably have to fab your wiring harness.

Putting a "AQS" engine in well also require doing something about the PTO. Really Garnold, your better off sticking to a "A" engine.

OK. I'm just going to have to keep my eyes out for a 14 or 16 then. The tractor has a 10 in it so if I'm going to do an upgrade I want it to make a nice difference :)

asq
 

what does asq mean i have one with and one without

As per the K series manual:

A= Special Oil Pan
Q= Quiet Model
S= Electric Start