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dodger9714 11-25-2013 12:35 PM

clutch problems
 
hello goot the 126 running needs the carb ajusted. but now the clutch is not working properly it stops and engages properly but it shakes the drive shaft bad and dosent move on a fewe inches and stops like its not engaged it does have a bad rduction housing bearing its the one in the rear would that cause a problem??

darkminion_17 11-25-2013 12:48 PM

I would remove the clutch and start checking for worn parts,you will be able to check the gear reduction housing parts after you split the tractor.

dodger9714 11-25-2013 01:47 PM

would the reduction shaft bearing have anything to do with the vibration of the shaft??

J-Mech 11-25-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227704)
would the reduction shaft bearing have anything to do with the vibration of the shaft??

Yes. It can.

darkminion_17 11-25-2013 03:00 PM

The 3 pin driver has a bronze bushing that wears out and would also cause it to vibrate.

Yosemite Sam 11-25-2013 03:05 PM

Why do you suspect the reduction shaft bearing is bad?

dodger9714 11-25-2013 04:04 PM

the needles of the bearing are laying on the top of the tranny housing next to where the bearing is, i am not familar with these tranny so any help would be nice the clutch has seem to been fixed already.

J-Mech 11-25-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227733)
the needles of the bearing are laying on the top of the tranny housing next to where the bearing is, i am not familar with these tranny so any help would be nice the clutch has seem to been fixed already.

Well...... there's a good chance you need a shaft then too. :bigthink:

dodger9714 11-25-2013 05:48 PM

if I don't need a shaft what would be the damage for the bearing, and how long would it take.

Sam Mac 11-25-2013 05:54 PM

I strongly suggest that you take some time and look in the "Technical Library - Tractors" section, download the manuals for your tractor and look at them lot's of great info and it will help you understand how these things work and how to fix them.

darkminion_17 11-25-2013 06:04 PM

Hopefully your input shaft did not damage the gear reduction housing ,I had one that did...

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/a...lePics1418.jpg

dodger9714 11-25-2013 06:49 PM

how much does the bearing cost??

J-Mech 11-25-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227765)
how much does the bearing cost??

Go to partstree.com, or cub cadet's website. Put in your model number, go to the "transmission case/diffirential/reduction housing" section and you can get a price.

After you do that..... you'll probably want a price from a bearing company.

sgirdham 11-25-2013 07:04 PM

Like Sam said, take a look at the manuals, find the part number and do a search.

austin8214 11-25-2013 09:15 PM

The bearing is under $10

J-Mech 11-26-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by austin8214 (Post 227803)
The bearing is under $10

You sure you aren't looking at the ball bearing.....
I think that needle bearing would be more than that. :bigthink:

dodger9714 11-26-2013 01:09 PM

its the rear bearing ,what im asking, is will that make the tractor not work right??

J-Mech 11-26-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227937)
its the rear bearing ,what im asking, is will that make the tractor not work right??

Oh for crying out loud. A bearing out would make a lot of the driveline not right! Replace the bearing before you do anything else. What on earth do you want to know? Yes, a bearing out will make the driveline shake and shimmy. It will make the reduction housing gears not mesh and it WILL TEAR UP THE TEETH on the gear. REPLACE IT NOW! If the vibration doesn't go away..... come back and ask questions.
:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse:

dodger9714 11-26-2013 03:33 PM

no need to be a jerk about it, but thanks for the answer and i will come back with what i get.

clint 11-26-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 227959)
Oh for crying out loud. A bearing out would make a lot of the driveline not right! Replace the bearing before you do anything else. What on earth do you want to know? Yes, a bearing out will make the driveline shake and shimmy. It will make the reduction housing gears not mesh and it WILL TEAR UP THE TEETH on the gear. REPLACE IT NOW! If the vibration doesn't go away..... come back and ask questions.
:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse:

J-Mech attitudes like your post here don't help anyone with lack of confidence trying to find information, instructions etc ? Caps is considered screaming why would you "talk" to someone with 18 total post asking for help like that ? dodger9714 I apologize for J-Mech, and just hang around plenty of help/information offered on this site !!

Sam Mac 11-26-2013 04:16 PM

OK everyone cool off before this get's out of control.

Dodger
Here's the deal. If you want help we need proper info. Model, a good description of the problem, pics of the problem area are a great help. As I have said before take the time to look in the tech section so that you will be able to help us help you.

Jon
I get it that you are trying to help but you can back it down a notch. Remember you are dealing with someone that seems to be having some difficulty describing what his problem is.

Clint
Thanks for your concern, the matter will be addressed.

Mac

jimbob200521 11-26-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227967)
no need to be a jerk about it, but thanks for the answer and i will come back with what i get.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clint (Post 227971)
J-Mech attitudes like your post here don't help anyone with lack of confidence trying to find information, instructions etc ? Caps is considered screaming why would you "talk" to someone with 18 total post asking for help like that ? dodger9714 I apologize for J-Mech, and just hang around plenty of help/information offered on this site !!

I don't think J-Mech was being too much of a jerk :biggrin2: I think he got frustrated with dodger9714's lack research and repetitive questions basically asking the same thing over and over. I don't think there was a need to apologize for him but I'll step out of this one now, just felt like I should throw in my :TwoCents:

Anywho, back on topic, start with the bearing, read the manual and come back with any questions. BTW, welcome aboard, it's a great group of peopleh here! :beerchug:

johncub7172 11-26-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227765)
how much does the bearing cost??

Do you think it is this bearing? If so, the part number can be seen here:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ppzkna.jpg[/I

the bearing part number is 385077 R91

Sam Mac 11-26-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by johncub7172 (Post 227979)
Do you think it is this bearing? If so, the part number can be seen here:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ppzkna.jpg[/I

the bearing part number is 385077 R91

That would be the seal, not the bearing.

Sam Mac 11-26-2013 04:49 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#20 is the seal
#19 is a c clip
#18 is a ball bearing
#24 is the input shaft
#25 is a needle bearing
#21 is the drive shaft coupling

Merk 11-26-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 227975)
I don't think J-Mech was being too much of a jerk :biggrin2: I think he got frustrated with dodger9714's lack research and repetitive questions basically asking the same thing over and over. I don't think there was a need to apologize for him but I'll step out of this one now, just felt like I should throw in my :TwoCents:

X2

Anywho, back on topic, start with the bearing, read the manual and come back with any questions. BTW, welcome aboard, it's a great group of peopleh here! :beerchug:

Clint-
J-Mech doesn't need anyone to apologize for his actions. I would do the same thing. That is one of the main reasons I don't post very much anymore. You to apolgize to J-Mech.

dodger9714-
Get a manual from the tech section-do some reading-them pull the tractor apart to see what is wrong. Someone did post about going to parts tree to get part numbers. Another good place to get parts is one of the vendors at the top of the page. Chris at Cub Classics is a good guy to work with.

The only way you will learn is roll up your sleeves and get busy.

Jeff in Pa 11-26-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger9714 (Post 227967)
no need to be a jerk about it, but thanks for the answer and i will come back with what i get.

As you can see from the discussion, it is extremely important not to run the tractor anymore as serious ( catastrophic ) damage will occur. Gears are designed to mesh within thousandths of an inch. Worn bearings will cause even more damage to occur.

Find your tractor in the tech section and both read the manual plus study the diagrams.

We're more than happy to help but need good info from you to give you the best advice. Pictures would help too.

Sam Mac 11-26-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Merk (Post 227988)
Clint-
J-Mech doesn't need anyone to apologize for his actions. I would do the same thing. That is one of the main reasons I don't post very much anymore. You to apolgize to J-Mech.

dodger9714-
Get a manual from the tech section-do some reading-them pull the tractor apart to see what is wrong. Someone did post about going to parts tree to get part numbers. Another good place to get parts is one of the vendors at the top of the page. Chris at Cub Classics is a good guy to work with.

The only way you will learn is roll up your sleeves and get busy.

Dale

Take a look at my post # 10, we have all been telling Dodger the same thing. I agree with you 100 percent buddy.

Mac

Merk 11-26-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 228002)
Dale

Take a look at my post # 10, we have all been telling Dodger the same thing. I agree with you 100 percent buddy.

Mac

I know,

Dodger
I'm not here to put you down..........
I wish you were closer to Northwest Ohio. I like to help someone (young or old) learn to work on the old Cub Cadets. It sounds like you want to learn.....PM me if you want to someone who has been working on IH Cub Cadets for the last 35 to 40 years. I've teach a young man with a mild learning disability overcome it. He should finish his 4 year engineering degree later this summer. I used several of my IH Cub Cadets to teach Steve how to think things thru.

clint 11-26-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merk (Post 227988)
Clint-
J-Mech doesn't need anyone to apologize for his actions. I would do the same thing. That is one of the main reasons I don't post very much anymore. You to apolgize to J-Mech.

Merk, Whatever I have done to you to cause you not to post here anymore I don't remember ? Your last sentence are you saying I need to apologize to j-mech ?

johncub7172 11-26-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 227981)
That would be the seal, not the bearing.

Thank you Sam, my bad!

Sam Mac 11-27-2013 07:23 AM

Guys

Merk has made an offer to help Dodger with his problem. Just my 2 cents but that sounds like the way to go. Merk is more than qualified to deal with this one.

That said I think the rest of us should back off rather than confuse the issue.
As far as anyone apologizing let’s just let it go. We have a great group here let’s keep it that way.

Hope all of you have a great Thanks Giving. :beerchug:

Mac

Sam Mac 11-27-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncub7172 (Post 228082)
Thank you Sam, my bad!

No problem, BTDT myself. :beerchug:


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