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Leadslingingdaddy 11-18-2013 07:31 AM

Worked the Super kinda hard and she puked a front seal
 
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Out back at the new place pushing some heavy piles of grass and I noticed smoke coming from up front of the hood and jumped off the tractor to see what was going on when I noticed oil dumping on the ground...

Shut it off as fast as i could and investigated....Front area was washed with oil so I figured it was the seal.

Tried to pull her up the hill with the the JD 318 but that was futile so out comes the wife and the 4 wheel truck....Slooooooo I tell her...

Pulled the engine out and off with the flywheel to see the front seal was out sitting on the shaft....

Gonna put new front and rear seals in along with breather gaskets, and de-carboning the heads with new head gaskets....

Never ends I tell ya.

Of course I cant do anything out there in the garage without my little helper getting into everything.!

Sam Mac 11-18-2013 07:44 AM

Looks like your having too much fun. Nice helper. :beerchug:

Leadslingingdaddy 11-18-2013 07:52 AM

Is that what it's called!! Wanted to power wash the frame area but of course it clouded up and got cold and windy.....Rrrrr... will get the parts this week and put her back together....

Any hints on the seals?? silicone or just put them in dry?

Sam Mac 11-18-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadslingingdaddy (Post 226530)
Is that what it's called!! Wanted to power wash the frame area but of course it clouded up and got cold and windy.....Rrrrr... will get the parts this week and put her back together....

Any hints on the seals?? silicone or just put them in dry?

Down load this
http://www.loctite.ph/php/content_data/LT4680.pdf

page 24 looks like the hot setup to keep the seal in the bore.

J-Mech 11-18-2013 09:28 AM

The outside of those seals are a type of rubber. They are supposed to be installed dry. I have thought before they needed something on them, just to have them come back out. Found that if installed dry, they seem to hold. Nice shop! Good luck! :beerchug:

Leadslingingdaddy 11-18-2013 10:36 AM

Well I can tell ya if it blows out again its Repower time with a Command or Vanguard....

ACecil 11-18-2013 11:36 AM

You'll get the super in tip top shape in no time, Randy! :beerchug:

johncub7172 11-18-2013 12:03 PM

Glad you are on to making the repair! Surprised the ol' JD 318 could not make the grade, though. :beer2:

Leadslingingdaddy 11-18-2013 12:05 PM

Turf tires no weights on them or loaded....Dont get me wrong that Green Machine is a HD Garden Tractor too....Not a fan of Onans but it runs well....

I need ags on it...

johncub7172 11-18-2013 12:29 PM

Oh yea, your JD 318 would be a great garden tractor, and after I posted my comment, I realized in another thread that the JD is set up for mowing duty.

Man, I also noticed the bolt and washer screwed into the crank of the engine. I'm wondering if that was a better way to go, because the old Iron Line Kohler flat top engines seemed to have the stud on the end of the crank, secured with a nut. I have the same set up on my Kohler K241 as your's is pictured. Some one had done some machining "101", and made a terrific job at that!

Interesting to me! :beer2:

Leadslingingdaddy 11-18-2013 01:10 PM

The Super will be earning her keep quick enough....This gives me some time to check all the rearend bolts, new hyro filter, and weld a nut on the inside of the frame for attachements...

They have one 3/4 nut welded in there but on the opposite side I had to always fish a nut up behind the hydo couplers....PITA!!! Gonna fix that with a quickness.

squatch 11-19-2013 05:36 AM

Double check for fuel smell in your oil. When my super spit the front seal it was because there was fuel in the oil. Failed fuel pump.

Also be careful of the seal. The one for the kt17 is a tad too small. They gave me one of those the 1st time.

Leadslingingdaddy 11-19-2013 07:09 AM

I installed a new pump this summer Squatch...I gave them the part numbers at the dealer.... Hopefully they get it right as I was looking over their shoulder on the parts software.. lol

I did find out I have the newer oil breather in it...Old one was a round rubber type of washer and mine has a spring steel flapper...Saved me another 20 bucks.

FrankF3 11-19-2013 01:02 PM

My 1862 went through 2 seals in the same way. The first one was replaced by an independent repair shop bc I had no time to get to it. The second seal blew out within a year of the first. I ended up putting gasket varnish on the seal OD when I did it. It's been running (knock on wood) for 3+ years this way now. When I was in the process of getting it done, I think someone on this site recommended putting in 2 seals so one would back up the other. Never did tho. This past summer I thought the seal blew out again, but it was the oil pressure sending unit that was dripping out oil. You may want to check yours to be sure it is not oozing. The replacement Kohler sending unit was leaking just as bad as the one that was replaced. I ended up replacing that one under warranty.

Leadslingingdaddy 11-19-2013 01:17 PM

Gasket Varnish?

My sending unit is good to go but the valve cover gaskets are about shot....

Sam Mac 11-19-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadslingingdaddy (Post 226778)
Gasket Varnish?

My sending unit is good to go but the valve cover gaskets are about shot....

This is what he is talking about

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...ellac/_/N-25b1

FrankF3 11-19-2013 03:37 PM

Sam, that's the stuff....


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