IH 782 with Series 1 KT-17
 

I know someone that is selling a complete original IH 782 with a KT-17 Series 1 for $400. It has a new $100 seat on it which even makes it a better deal. It currently does not run because it is getting fuel in the oil, but the guy claims that it does in fact run (bought from the original owner who attends his church). It's all there and it's not a rust bucket and seems very restorable. It also has the dry element air cleaner. Does the KT-17 Series 1 have a kit available to fix the sudden death oiling problem and if so how much?

I have a 782 with a series 1 Kt17, and I have been working it hard for about 10 years without any problems. As long as you keep it full of oil and don't mow on steep slopes, there's nothing wrong with the series 1 engine.

take a loot here. they offer a remote oil kit.

http://www.weekendfreedommachines.co...35&page=164789

I guess the fuel is getting in the oil after it sits overnight or for a good while ??

If so , it is usually the fuel pump or the carb leaking fuel. They both set on top of the engine , and it is usually the fuel pump starts leaking , but the carb can do it also.

Nothing you can do other than keep oil level checked/topped off. No provision for a remote oil filter as it does not have pressurized lube system, series 1 uses splash lube. Lots of info on the series 1 vs series 2 by searching. As to value if it's a nice 782 it may be worth the asking price of $400. If I purchased it I would do so thinking it has a bad engine, look for a replacement engine a magnum 18, maybe one of the later v type engines B&S Vanguard etc. If you get the fuel pump replaced, and the engine runs then you have extra time to find an engine while using the 782.. Good luck

I could of swore i had seen a conversion from a series I to a II, Ill try and find it. I could be wrong lords knows I usually am. lol.:bigthink:

NONE of the KT-17 Series I had a remote Oil Filter option. Only "some" of the KT-17 Series II did.

I don't know where you got that information from but it is NOT accurate.

The weakness of the KT-17 Series I was if they were used a lot on slopes or inclined plains. I have a friend that still runs a 682 with a KT-17 Series I with NO problems. He keeps it full of oil, changes it as recommend....and oh yeah...he has a level lawn.

Here is the difference in the KT-17 lubrication systems..

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I like the illustration showing the oiling paths! Also good information in the JD 317/KT-17 article -- I like the comment about hilly lawns causing Series 1's to seize-up as being 'urban legend'. :biggrin2: Maybe dirty oil or not enough oil does not help the situation on an incline.

Lots of good advice for you on this one. Just my 2 cents but for $400 if the rest of the tractor is decent I would buy it. Rebuild the carb, by pass the fuel pump for the time being (with the fuel tank above the carb it will feed the carb) change the oil and see how it runs. They have issues when you run them leaning to the side more so than going up or down a hill. Worse case you may have to do a repower. If that happens look for a 2185, 2160, 2164 or a 2165 for an organ donor.

There are millions of Kohler K series (single cylinder) engines out there that have no oil pump and use the "splash method" of lubricating the Connecting Rod journals. You hear of no complaints of "oil starving" on these engines.

You just have to keep in mind the context of the complainer....:biggrin2:

Check the fuel pump, I'd be willing to bet money that's where the fuel in the oil is coming from. Mine had the same problem when I bought it, so I found a Sten's replacement pump on Amazon and violla; good as new. $34.99 + S&H, can't beat that.

http://www.amazon.com/Fuel-Pump-KOHL...kt17+fuel+pump

Somewhat true, somewhat false. When I got my 682 with a Series I, I did tons of looking up on them so I knew what I had gotten myself into. The Series I uses a pressurized spray lubrication, not splash. If operated on mostly level ground, these engines are just as reliable as the Series II's.

Same thing here. Fuel pump on my 1711 started filling the engine with gas. New pump, no more issues. To make things easier you will need to remove the tin on top of the motor. Not to difficult to do. Then you can get to the bolts that holds the fuel pump to the engine.