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Numbnuts 10-24-2013 08:54 AM

Sleeve hitch differences between 1650 and 782?
 
Hello folks,
Does anyone know if the sleeve hitch for the wide-frame 1450/1650 will fit the 82 series, or what the differences in the parts might be?

Thanks.

JLM78 10-24-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbnuts (Post 222494)
Hello folks,
Does anyone know if the sleeve hitch for the wide-frame 1450/1650 will fit the 82 series, or what the differences in the parts might be?

Thanks.

the lift bar that runs for the hitch to the trator lift is not the same.

ACecil 10-24-2013 11:19 AM

The lift bar for the 1650 has a curve, while the lift bar for the 782 is straight.

Numbnuts 10-24-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Sleeve hitch differences between 1650 and 782?
 
Appreciate the info, thanks! I'm looking at a wide-frame hitch set for sale. Looks like for what just the bar costs ($45+), I may cut and weld it to fit my 782.

red56turbo 10-24-2013 02:32 PM

Also, the early quietlines had the bar going through the actual cast part to allow it to pivot. On the later quietlines and the 82 series, it used Frankenstein bolts. You could always add bushings to the 782 frame and use the bar if it's an early one.

Numbnuts 10-24-2013 05:23 PM

Josh, I think this is like the one I'm looking at:

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0028100032

Thanks.

Jeff in Pa 10-24-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbnuts (Post 222547)
Josh, I think this is like the one I'm looking at:

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0028100032

Thanks.

If you need frankenstein bolts, I make them
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20875

R Bedell 10-24-2013 07:30 PM

The upper casting is the same for all WF. The difference lies in the rear of the Frame. Early frames had a collar spot welded to the frame and used a pivot rod. Later frames did not have those collars and simply had a hole in the frame for the so called Frankenstein Bolts. See image of frame with collars.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1.jpg~original

Numbnuts 10-24-2013 08:31 PM

OK, Roland I don't see the collar so I think I will need Jeff's frankenstein bolts!! Just in time for Halloween.

Bret

Yosemite Sam 10-24-2013 10:16 PM

If you guys are talking about a Three Point Hitch... Please stop saying "sleeve hitch"

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4

J-Mech 10-24-2013 11:00 PM

I really hate that cub calls this a 3 point hitch. By all standards, it isn't a 3pt. The cat 0 is a 3 point hitch. I don't care what cub calls it, it will always be a sleeve hitch to me. I personally think it is confusing to call it a 3 point. Just my two cents.

yesmar74 10-25-2013 06:50 AM

What J-Mech said......

Berwil 10-25-2013 02:49 PM

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Instead of Frankenstein bolts, I made bolt in inserts for my 1450 out of grade 8 bolts. They are the same thickness inside the frame as the welded collar, just need a slightly longer rod to accommodate the bolt head outside the frame. I like the idea of having a solid rod in there rather than the stubs of the franken bolts.

Bill

Cubcrazy 10-25-2013 05:42 PM

Good idea!:beerchug:

bolivier 10-25-2013 09:02 PM

Sweet, lookin' good

Numbnuts 10-25-2013 09:22 PM

So if I was a dealer back in 1981 and a guy walked in and wanted a 782 with this hitch, would the shop had to custom make the franken bolts or some other setup to install the hitch?

Jeff in Pa 10-25-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbnuts (Post 222707)
So if I was a dealer back in 1981 and a guy walked in and wanted a 782 with this hitch, would the shop had to custom make the franken bolts or some other setup to install the hitch?

Last price I saw on the Cub Cadet frankenstein bolts was $42 EACH ( I image they were less expensive in 1981 )

I can make the same style as Berwil make for his if you prefer that type. :beerchug:

ACecil 10-25-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berwil (Post 222654)
Instead of Frankenstein bolts, I made bolt in inserts for my 1450 out of grade 8 bolts. They are the same thickness inside the frame as the welded collar, just need a slightly longer rod to accommodate the bolt head outside the frame. I like the idea of having a solid rod in there rather than the stubs of the franken bolts.

Bill

That's a great idea!

Farmall450 05-17-2022 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 222598)
I really hate that cub calls this a 3 point hitch. By all standards, it isn't a 3pt. The cat 0 is a 3 point hitch. I don't care what cub calls it, it will always be a sleeve hitch to me. I personally think it is confusing to call it a 3 point. Just my two cents.

Ditto. :beerchug:


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