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jimbob200521 08-04-2013 04:08 PM

Finally found me a 682
 
While doing my usual pa-rousing of Craigslist on a lazy Saturday afternoon at work, I stumbled across a freshly listed 682 with a 54" IH Blade, 44" Deck, and extra set of tires filled with liquid and nice chains for $600 about an hour away. The tractor was listed as "moving, need gone asap. No reasonable offer refused". Not to waste any time, I texted the guy and after he sent me a few pics I asked for, I offered him $400. He said $450, and with that, right after work, we were on our way.

Got up there about an hour later and took a closer look. Here's what I found.

The good:
IH Built before MTD buyout
Runs smooth, no smoke or odd noises
Repainted by the PO
Panels (except hood) are in great shape under the paint, no dents, etc
Spring assist :D

The bad:
The PO brush painted it (looks fine from about 8ft or so but up close...ugh) :bash2:
Fuel pump went bad so rather than replace with proper replacement, guy put on some weird setup (see pics)
Runs smooth, no smoke or odd noises - with choke most of the way out
Missing hydro set-speed control on dash (no biggie)
While it runs smooth, I believe it to be a Series I :-/
Missing left hand side (from drivers seat) engine shroud

So, after giving it a thorough looking over and taking it for a ride, I confronted the guy about it, and what I saw as negatives. I told him in the shape it's in (odd fuel pump, brush painted, etc) I would be a buyer at $350. He said he'd be happy to take it.

Got it home last night, pulled it off the truck and took it for a spin; instantly I knew this was a keeper for me, it was one of my top 3 machines to have. I have already ordered a replacement fuel pump, carb rebuild kit, and picked up some carb cleaner, fuel line, Hy-Tran, and filter. This coming weekend I'm going to pull the carb, rebuild it, change tranny fluid and filter, engine oil, and give a good looking over. I've already posted in the Wanted Section for a used Shroud so hopefully I find one sooner rather than later.

One question, though: should I be worried about this Series I engine? Like I said, it doesn't smoke and runs and sounds smooth as silk but I hear a lot of horror stories about them blowing up. I don't plan on using it on hills as I have a flat yard, so my gut tells me with regular maintenance I'll be ok, but what do you guys think?

Anyway, on to the pics!!

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jimbob200521 08-04-2013 04:10 PM

And the extras

http://imageshack.com/a/img687/4674/0qzy.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img703/5389/drcb.jpg

The deck (with an under-carriage I had laying around, the one that came with it was missing the hanger)

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cubcadet 08-04-2013 04:45 PM

great find, i love mine,. not bad at all, that blade is huge and mint shape , congrats:beerchug:

drglinski 08-04-2013 05:59 PM

You have the 54" blade right? It does look wide.

As far as the series 1 engine goes; I agree avoid the hills as much as possible; that being said, dad's got a 782 with a series 1 engine and he mows his hills all the time. He has been using it on his hills since he got it 12 or so years ago and *knock on wood* no issues yet.

Mr.Goffena 08-04-2013 06:19 PM

I looked through the parts off my blown kt17 and the PO must still have the side sheild you need. I do have the one for the other side though. The PO called me and told me he had the rest of the shields at his house. If he were close I would run up and get them. I'm sure you will find what you need there are plenty of dead kt17s out there. mine is waiting to go to the scrap man.

J-Mech 08-04-2013 07:33 PM

Congrats on the 682 Ryan! Yeah, the KT weren't the best engine, but if you keep it on flat level it should be fine. They usually don't give much warning before they go though, just FYI.

Cubcrazy 08-04-2013 09:11 PM

Congrats on the nice looking 682 Ryan!

rweaver 08-04-2013 09:18 PM

your 682 is a early one and you are right its a kt17 series 1 the flat oval air cleaner must have not been used long I have only ever seen a few your tractor looks nice

ACecil 08-04-2013 10:07 PM

Nice find on your 682!

jimbob200521 08-04-2013 10:35 PM

Thanks for the responses, guys! I'm really happy with her and I hope to have her in running condition (minus engine shroud :bash2:) by this weekend. Can't wait to dig into her, I'll be sure to post pics of my progress as I make it.

red56turbo 08-04-2013 10:41 PM

Nice find on the 682. Looks like a keeper. What's the serial number of your tractor? I agree with Ray, not too many with those air cleaners. My 782 is in the 667XXX range and has a round air cleaner IIRC, series I.

Just stay off the hills and keep the oil full. You'll be fine. :beerchug:

jimbob200521 08-04-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 209209)
Nice find on the 682. Looks like a keeper. What's the serial number of your tractor? I agree with Ray, not too many with those air cleaners. My 782 is in the 667XXX range and has a round air cleaner IIRC, series I.

Just stay off the hills and keep the oil full. You'll be fine. :beerchug:

Serial number is 205xEx3U66696x best I can tell at the moment (x's I couldn't yet make out, stupid brush paint :bash2:)

Engine Spec Number is 24136a, not sure what the "a" means but the spec number says Series I from everything I've read.

And I plan to avoid the hills, I'm on pretty flat land so I should be good.

ACecil 08-04-2013 11:00 PM

That's an early one!

darkminion_17 08-04-2013 11:13 PM

Welcome to the red club!!!

jimbob200521 08-04-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACecil (Post 209211)
That's an early one!

Makes me nervous about how much life is left in this Series I motor :Unknown: I'm hoping to use her for this winter as my main snow thrower machine, I'd hate to have her blow up in the middle of a snow storm :bigeyes:

J-Mech 08-05-2013 12:13 AM

If your putting a blower on her, your gonna wish it was a 782 with the hydraulic lift by the end of the winter..... LOL

Nightow1 08-05-2013 12:23 AM

OOOO I want one so bad Lol:angry:

jeepchicken5000 08-05-2013 06:14 AM

I was also concerned about the engine on mine as well but looking at the old hour meter it had a 100 hours on it when it quit now idk when that was but I don't think it can have many hours on it. my engine runs great seems to loose oil and the engine has noisy valves ?. I still use mine for mowing and will until it blows, I just keep oil in it and its good, would like to know where it goes though :bigthink: and there very thirsty engines to
my serial is 688xxx almost at the end of the line and the flat air cleaner makes a bit more room then my round one

Cubcrazy 08-05-2013 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 209219)
Makes me nervous about how much life is left in this Series I motor :Unknown: I'm hoping to use her for this winter as my main snow thrower machine, I'd hate to have her blow up in the middle of a snow storm :bigeyes:

Keep the oil level up on it. The twins don't like to run low on oil!

jimbob200521 08-05-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepchicken5000 (Post 209242)
I was also concerned about the engine on mine as well but looking at the old hour meter it had a 100 hours on it when it quit now idk when that was but I don't think it can have many hours on it. my engine runs great seems to loose oil and the engine has noisy valves ?. I still use mine for mowing and will until it blows, I just keep oil in it and its good, would like to know where it goes though :bigthink: and there very thirsty engines to
my serial is 688xxx almost at the end of the line and the flat air cleaner makes a bit more room then my round one

Is yours a Series I?

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 209224)
If your putting a blower on her, your gonna wish it was a 782 with the hydraulic lift by the end of the winter..... LOL

Spring assist :biggrin2: Not hydraulics but going to be a life saver :biggrin2:

J-Mech 08-05-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 209263)
Spring assist :biggrin2: Not hydraulics but going to be a life saver :biggrin2:

Yeah, I saw the spring assist. Blowers are HEAVY! :biggrin2:

jimbob200521 08-05-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 209269)
Yeah, I saw the spring assist. Blowers are HEAVY! :biggrin2:

I'll take your word for it, I still haven't hooked it up to any of my machines so this will be a first :beerchug:

red56turbo 08-05-2013 11:47 AM

With that serial number, she's an early one. They started at 665001. I wouldn't loose too much sleep with the Series I. Just check the oil and keep it full. If she lets go, she lets go. I've seen a lot of Series II that have thrown rods as well. :biggrin2:

jimbob200521 08-05-2013 05:15 PM

Seems as though I'm having a hard time locating the engine shroud I need which leads me to wonder; am I going to be ok running it without that shroud on? I want to try her out as a mower once before snow falls (at the rate my grass is growing, I'll only get one more mow in this year :-/), what do you guys think?

-Ryan

J-Mech 08-05-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 209348)
Seems as though I'm having a hard time locating the engine shroud I need which leads me to wonder; am I going to be ok running it without that shroud on? I want to try her out as a mower once before snow falls (at the rate my grass is growing, I'll only get one more mow in this year :-/), what do you guys think?

-Ryan

Don't do it!! ...... You haven't been looking long enough to not find one! LOL! Come back in two weeks after 100 phone calls and say you can't find one. Did you check with the sponsors? They are still available new..... PRICEY!! But available!

Check with rweaver.

J-Mech 08-05-2013 07:23 PM

Is this what you can't find?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUB-CADET-68...item43ad017d59

jimbob200521 08-05-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 209360)
Don't do it!! ...... You haven't been looking long enough to not find one! LOL! Come back in two weeks after 100 phone calls and say you can't find one. Did you check with the sponsors? They are still available new..... PRICEY!! But available!

Check with rweaver.

Ok, so I may have jumped the gun in saying that a bit :biggrin2:

Talked to rweaver and long story short, I just sent payment for my missing side baffle :beerchug:

J-Mech 08-06-2013 11:36 AM

There is a $10 "finders fee" for any and all parts I locate. LOL! :beerchug:

Come on, I dare ya, give me a part you can't find, I'll find it. You may not have the money to buy it, but I can find it!!

darkminion_17 08-06-2013 12:10 PM

A complete recoil start for an original....:bigthink: nos:biggrin2:

red56turbo 08-06-2013 12:19 PM

M&W nine speed for CC, NOS. :bigthink: :biggrin2:
(I've seen a couple come up for sale. Just grab yer wallet!) :beer2:

J-Mech 08-06-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 209489)
M&W nine speed for CC, NOS. :bigthink: :biggrin2:
(I've seen a couple come up for sale. Just grab yer wallet!) :beer2:

NOS! You guys are being kinda picky!!..... :biggrin2: How about we settle for used...

I have worked on the M&W 3 speed for the 8N ford tractors, which makes them a 9, or is it a 12 speed :bigthink: (can't remember how many gears the 8N had) Anyway, it would run faster than I wanted to drive it down the road!!

jimbob200521 08-06-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 209486)
There is a $10 "finders fee" for any and all parts I locate. LOL! :beerchug:

Tell ya what, I'll split the difference and call it $5 because I found the same shroud on eBay but wasn't sure it'd fit because it's from a John Deere and they're just...weird :biggrin2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 209486)
Come on, I dare ya, give me a part you can't find, I'll find it. You may not have the money to buy it, but I can find it!!

That sounds like a challenge! :bigthink::beerchug::biggrin2:

rweaver 08-06-2013 06:17 PM

nos 402 haban sickle bar mower or a complete nos tractor old IH built one the M&W is a hard find and so is the recoil for a original I knew where there was a nos original in the crate some years ago I chased it but then the trail got cold never did find it if it went like his dads other stuff he drank it away

jimbob200521 08-11-2013 08:23 AM

Update: After gathering all my parts, I finally got some wrench time Saturday on the 682. Since I had gotten the carb off and cleaned earlier in the week, I installed rebuild kit, put the carb back on the tractor, drained the 2+ year old gas out of the tank, changed the oil, installed the new fuel pump, new fuel line, new engine shroud, and finally turned the key. After the carb got primed, she fired right up. Before, the choke would have to be 80-90% of the way out to run, but as for the rest of yesterday, I didn't even need it out to start it again. I took it for as easy test spin around the block and once I was confidant everything was in order, I hooked the deck up and test mowed a strip of yard. Worked great so I pulled her back up to the house and shut her off. Let her cool down and changed the transmission filter and fluid. Fired it back up and went back to mowing. Even found some heavy, think weeds out back to test her out on. She didn't even know it was cutting down 1ft tall think weeds at 3/4 throttle, very impressed by the 682, as long as it doesn't throw a rod she's got plenty of power :beerchug:

Thanks guys for the advice on this one and thank you to rweaver for helping out with the engine shroud, you'll be hearing from me again on other parts :biggrin2:

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Gunk build-up wasn't too bad, worst part was getting whatever gasket sealer the PO put on off, stuff was like solid rubber everywhere :bash2:

Cubcrazy 08-11-2013 09:10 AM

Glad to hear you got it running good!:beer2:

ACecil 08-11-2013 10:07 AM

Great job on the 682! You'll really enjoy it!


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