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jackblack 07-21-2013 07:28 AM

Finally found a 451 blower!
 
Hey Guys I have finally located a Model 451 Snow Blower close by, but before I contact the seller and go make a deal I would like to know if there are any particular areas that I should be concerned with. What are the weak points on this model if any? I will be installing on my 1872.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.:bigthink:

ACecil 07-21-2013 10:18 AM

Congrats! Hope to see some pics of it on the 1872 this Winter. :beerchug:

rweaver 07-21-2013 11:54 AM

you need a 450 not a 451 the 451 is made for a 6in pto pulley the 450 is made for the 4 1/4 pulley like your 1872

J-Mech 07-21-2013 12:43 PM

Ray,
Are the gear boxes different? Or just the pulley?

rweaver 07-21-2013 06:01 PM

the pulleys are the same its the gear boxes that are not the same

jackblack 07-21-2013 06:29 PM

I understand that the 451 will work it will just turn slightly slower therefor not blow quite as far as if it had the larger pulley. Do you thing I can get away with it? Maybe change the pulley on the blower to match the one on the tractor?? In my area I am lucky to find the 451 let alone a 450...been on the search for more than a year now.

rweaver 07-21-2013 09:37 PM

ok to make it work you need to put a 6in pulley on the pto clutch which I may have here just the pulley not the whole clutch

jackblack 07-22-2013 06:02 AM

My clutch has 2 pulleys...the outer is 6"x1/2" and the inner is 4 1/2"x5/8" is it possible that is the pulley I need?

hhc70 07-22-2013 09:58 AM

I ran a 451 blower on a 1450. I did make sure that I was actually running 3600rpm, and it did a good job for me. The guy I sold the package to said it does a good job for him too. BUT, now that I have a 1572 with the correct 450 blower, it does an amazing job. It impresses me every time I use it. Get the pulley from Ray, and be prepared to be amazed with how far you will send that snow. I am not sure about the double PTO pulley. I have never heard of that. If you use a mower deck on this tractor, you can likely switch it's double pulley for one that will work with the 6" PTO. Where in Ontario are you? I am near Brockville.

rweaver 07-22-2013 05:09 PM

now it sounds like you have a 2 fold problem you need a pto as well never heard of a 2 groove pulley for a 1872 never saw one either

jackblack 07-22-2013 08:42 PM

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Here is a picture of the double pulley

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hhc70 07-22-2013 09:38 PM

I don't think Cub Cadet ever used a double pulley PTO. John Deere did. Is it possible the engine is a transplant?

J-Mech 07-22-2013 09:50 PM

Or the clutch was a transplant. I don't think it will hurt anything. Might even be a good thing!

rweaver 07-22-2013 10:37 PM

ok that looks to be a deere clutch and neither is for a 5/8th belt both look like 1/2 in and cub uses a outer cage to keep the clutch from spinning if it was mine I would replace clutch and use a 6in pulley at that time but its not mine

J-Mech 07-22-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rweaver (Post 206981)
ok that looks to be a deere clutch and neither is for a 5/8th belt both look like 1/2 in and cub uses a outer cage to keep the clutch from spinning if it was mine I would replace clutch and use a 6in pulley at that time but its not mine

I didn't see that.... nor did I think about it. Good eye Ray!

jackblack 07-23-2013 05:31 AM

Thanks guys. I will go on a hunt for a new clutch.:bash2:

rweaver 07-23-2013 07:57 AM

if you would send that clutch to me I could make up a clutch using some of the parts you have if not I think I have everything you need

KayakDon 07-23-2013 05:24 PM

You will want the 6" pulley on the PTO. The smaller one will not work very well. The blower will be more like a plow. With the 6" pulley, the blower is almost unstoppable.

jackblack 07-23-2013 06:38 PM

Thanks Ray, but I will check with my local dealer to see if he has what I need. He is also a collector and saves lots of used parts for resale.


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