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Whats in your Cub library?
I'm looking to build a Cub library for myself ,What do you folks think should be included besides the obvious Owners/Service manuals for each machine I own?(Right now a 70 and a red 682 hydro)I know nothing about cubs right now except That by using my inlaws for 40+ years they are great little tractors.My 70 is intended as a ground up restoration and once I repower the 682 it's going back to work on the homestead,And like I've said in other posts I'm after my Father in laws 1965 Cub with the Danco loader.
Thanks Leon |
There are a lot of repairs made to our Cub Cadets that are not exactly the same as if the tractor was taken to a dealership and repaired there.
The trunnion repair, carburetor throttle shaft repair and steering column rebuild are some that come to mind. I think a perfect library would include but not be limited to; instructions for these types of repairs along with brand names, part numbers and retailers of the necessary parts to complete these types of "unconventional" repairs. The same thing goes for any other parts that can be "substituted" for factory parts (bushings , bearings, spiral pins and other such things). Ya know, it might not be a bad idea for someone to start a thread about that very thing, something like, "What kinds of unconventional repairs do you make to your Cubs and where do you get the parts and what are the part numbers?" |
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I've asked this question already on here and it just kind of faded away without answers!I agree with you there should be a "Upgrade"Tech link for these improvement fixes!In my original post back then asked what Upgrades have you done while restoring your Cub? |
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That being the case... Since I have one laying here on my desk, I'll just start something then... Depending on the condition of the parts, when I do a trunnion repair, I usually put a Hillman brand machine bushing (5/8" X 1" X 14 Ga.) part number H#838937 behind the "Damper spring plate assembly" (part #1 On the "Transmission Controls" page of the narrow frame tractor parts manuals (all of them)). I get the bushings at TSC, they have them in those flat drawers, with different kinds of "specialty" parts. The bushings fit very well in the recess on the back side of the damper plate and around the shaft (in the spot where the shaft isn't worn) the washer helps hold the damper plate parallel with the arm on the trunnion shaft using surfaces that have NO wear from prior use. The only trick here is sometimes the bushing is a little thick so I put it in the recess of the damper plate and "sand" a little of it off with a flat stone until I get the desired thickness to get the new snap ring on, then I use a little dry lube to help everything work smooth. THERE, now you all know... I have dirty little secrets of my own... No wait, I'm thinking of something else. Hopefully some of the other guys here aren't so bashful that they won't post some things that they know that the rest of us may not, or maybe they'll post some part numbers and retailers of parts that may save the rest of us some time, trouble and money. |
you order a BLUE RIBBON SERVICE manual from the sponcers or at your locoal cc dealer. a must for any cc tractor.:American Flag 1:
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What about the book titled " Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet" by Kenneth Updike. Very informative and overall a good book.
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Library requirements:
1) Operator's Manual 2) Service Manual(s) Most are single manuals but the Original has one for the engine and one for the chassis... 3) Parts Manual NOTE: Each of the above has necessary information not found in the others... for instance...only the Operators manual has the lube guide and chart... and only the parts manual will show you the relationship of parts ..while only the Service Manual will tell you how to... You NEED all three. Suggested: The Kohler, B&S and/or Tecumseh Single Cylinder Engine Service Manual(s). All the other publications are nice to have, interesting, and provide historical info. I have a wall full of them but the ones that get the use are the 3 required items listed above... Myron B |
I downloaded, and printed out every manual on the other site....went through 3 ink cartridges on the printer!
My wife is going to eventually put them in separate spiral binders. Currently, they're all in one HUGE tree ring binder. And I want to laminate every page when we do that. |
I printed out each of the three manuals for each of the IH Cub Cadets, even though we don't own them all. Then I put them in clear sheet protectors and then put them in a three ring binder. I make a Binder for each of the series tractors. That way if you need a sheet copied, just take out of the sheet protector and copy it. And printed out the Kohler manuals, service and owners, put in sheet protectors and put them in their own three ring binder.
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I just got the book original farmall cubs and cub cadets by ken updike for Christmas. It is a very informative reference book on all models of cub cadets. It has all the paint codes and is really a good restoration guide for all cubs and cub cadets.
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Now we're getting somewhere guys!lets keep the tips coming and remember that I started that thread on unconventional repairs remember you'll be helping out all us new guys with the info you share in these 2 threads.I've seen way too many hobbies or obsessions die an early death just because a Newb like me couldn't find info they needed or inspiration and quit because the felt swamped due to lack of information.
Thanks to all who contribute Leon |
I don't think this hobby has a lack of interest. It just might take a little bit to find the info you are needing. I have been in the antique engine/tractor hobby for around 25 years and have never seen a lack of interest. Welcome to a great hobby!
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HOW DARE YOU CALL THIS A "HOBBY"!!!
It's a sickness!!! It can completely consume a man. And will power is useless!!! The majority of us, can only take it one day at a time... One tractor at a time.... one more implement at a time..... It is only by the grace of God, that we are still sane members of society! :biggrin2.gif: |
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my family has already decided I'm insane !Might have something to do with the 13 tractors sitting out back right now !I'm already in trouble with family and neighbors over that!If that guy ever says dads Cub with the loader is for sale I'm adding that one too. Yes I'm obsessed with garden tractors and it all started with just wanting the 682 running again.I have to thin the herd but can't give any up!Went to 1 innocent Small Engine Adult Ed course put the word out I was looking for a tractor to work on and bingo 7 showed up in a week.so i now have 2 Cubs 4 Wheelhorse 1 Noma and several Craftsman and MTD tractors and not a darn 1 ready to do any work!One "off Brand" Died so the 682 will live again in the spring, Already adapted it's 16 HP Briggs to the 682,Gotta finish up wiring and such on it.The 70 is going to be a complete resto that I intend to use for pulling |
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Thank You I picked up a few manuals over the weekend I lucked into at a flea market.Right now I'm interested in getting manuals that will help me with a Model 70 or 682 I have those right now once I learn how I'll share these manuals with anyone that needs them here. |
Here is a link to the Kohler service manual in PDF. Just save on your computer and you will have it.
Kohler manual download page |
I am suprised nobody has mentioned take pictures and start your own photo library. I started that a few years ago and has become so very useful to me especially the older I get.
Books are a must, I also have in my collection complete manuals for the 7000 series tractors. I am not a pusher of e-bay but have bought some manuals that dealers owned that went out of bussiness. I also keep records on every tractor pull we go to. Keeping records and photos sure make it easier when we return the following year especially what worked and what didn't work. Pops |
It is difficult to keep track of part #'s since many have changed multiple times. My local dealer has to cross reference several times to try to track down any part for one of the older cubs.
Electronic file libraries are nice to have! I also keep the files on a flash drive and take a laptop to the shop when working on a cub or just print the pages needed for the work to save the extra ink. Print obviously if the job is extra dirty and the hand cleaner is low! This sites technical library is an excellent place to start--wiring diagrams, paint #'s matched up, and a whole wealth of other info!!! Cub Cadet 123 |
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If you're looking for "tricks of the trade" here's one that's not covered in the tech library and can apply to any task. It's taking progressive pictures. I use this technique for almost all jobs requiring any lengthy breakdown. I can't depend on my mind like I use to and once downloaded the pictures give me a clear idea as to how things reassemble. It obviously requires a digital camera for instant review. I bought a Sony Cybershot a few years back and it has saved me many headaches. I simply download all pictures of a job and place them in a folder. That way I can go to that folder for all types of reference and review. Where it really helps is places like carbs that have multiple holes for "complicated" linkage and springs. I just keep the camera available and when I get to the next step I shoot from all angles. That way I can usually start with the last pic and just go backwards when it's time to reassemble. I'm sure that most have already heard of doing this. It is now one of my most important tools. It can also save time, money, and frustration on any job. I hope this helps. I only mention it now because I have heard little on using progressive pictures here as well as other forums. |
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