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Mcamp 07-13-2013 11:53 PM

2182 governor trouble
 
I have a 2182 with 60" deck. It mows excellent until you get in heavy [ thick ] grass areas in the yard, then it drags the engine down. It seems as if the governor is not working. If you stop the tractor for a moment, it will pick up and go. I can't find how to check the governor adjustments in my books. Anybody have this happen? Thanks

J-Mech 07-14-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcamp (Post 205307)
I have a 2182 with 60in. deck, mows ex.till you get in heavy [ thick ] grass areas in the yard then it drags the eng down and it seems as if the gov. is not working. If you stop the tractor for a moment it will pick up and go. i can't find how to check the gov. adj. in my books. Anybody have this happen? Thanks

How long has it been since you tuned it up? Cleaned the air filter? Changed the fuel filter? Just because it's losing power doesn't mean the governor isn't working. Did you look to see if it is trying to open the carb up more?

Mcamp 07-14-2013 08:48 AM

Tuned and serviced [oil,air,hydro,fuel filters] 2 months ago when i bought, 10 hrs. since. Acts up only when mowing, can't get it to do it any other time;[ can't load eng. enough to make gov. work] when in shop.

Sam Mac 07-14-2013 08:57 AM

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A couple things I'd look at. Just my guess that the grass id a bit damp considering how nice the weather has been lately. See if you have a bunch of build up under the deck. Next when I picked up my 2182 it ran decent or at least I thought it did, that a look at the spark plug I pulled out of it. So I put 3 new plugs in it, no change, new cap and rotor, no change, fuel and air filters, no change, new carb, yep no change. Pulled the plugs and found that one of the brand new plugs was NG. Now we are a happy camper. Maybe it's just me but the odd thing about the 3 cylinder eng is the tone doesn't seem to change much if it's only hitting on two holes.:bigthink:

If any of you 2182 owners need a good carb you know who has one :bash2::bash2:

Mcamp 07-14-2013 09:16 AM

Thanks Sam, i just cleaned the deck before mowing, i was wondering about the plugs, i think i'll pull them and look.

J-Mech 07-14-2013 11:47 AM

Better check the cap and rotor too!

Mike McKown 07-14-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mcamp (Post 205345)

..........can't get it to do it any other time;[ can't load eng. enough to make gov. work] when in shop.

Can you lean the carb idle screw to cause the engine to stumble and then watch for the governor to try and pick the engine speed back up?

Mcamp 08-10-2013 02:30 PM

Ok, i finally got checking this thing out more.The gov. is working, i took the hood off so i could watch while mowing.The plugs are all looking great. I.m mowing maybe 3in. of grass tops and the engine is losing power sometimes,if i slow the hydro a little then it picks right up and goes. [ 60 in. deck at half travel speed] My other 2182 w60in. deck never missed a beat mowing the same. Any other ideas on my problem? thanks.

J-Mech 08-10-2013 04:53 PM

Refer to post #2. Did you do ALL of those things? There is more to a tune up than just changing spark plugs.

When was the last time you changed:
Dist cap and rotor
plug wires
drained the bowl on the carb

What plugs are in it? Are they the correct ones?
Did you check the timing?

When the governor start trying to give the engine more throttle, does it open the carb all the way?

Need more info. :bigthink:

Mcamp 08-10-2013 06:11 PM

The plugs are correct ones,i've had carb off and cleaned completely,i have no book that gives me the timing specs. so i can't check the timing.the gov. is opening the carb fully.I have not changed cap,rotor or wires.the tractor will sometimes run for an hour and not miss a beat, the next time it acts up in minutes.i replaced the fuel pump and filter this week, the pump only made 1.3lbs. pressure,the new pump is 3.2, still the same.

J-Mech 08-10-2013 06:49 PM

Put a cap/rotor/wires on it. Also, the next time it happens pull the fuel line from the tank and see if fuel is coming out. I really think there may be something plugging it up in the tank. That tank has two outlets in it. One may be plugged and the other is open, so if fuel moved around just right, or there is junk in the tank, it would act this way. I know it isn't fun to pull the tank and lines, but I really think that may be what you need to do. Pull the fuel filter and blow through it if you find it has no fuel moving. It may be plugged up already.

BTW, just "looking" at the plugs probably wouldn't tell you anything if the porcelain is cracked. It should act up all the time, but may not. Plugs are cheap.

My money is on a fuel issue at this point. Check your flow! :beerchug:

Sam Mac 08-10-2013 07:22 PM

Have you done a compression check on it?

Mcamp 08-10-2013 10:48 PM

The compression is 180-185 on all 3 cyl.I already had the tank off and checked the shut off valves when i found the fuel pressure was low and replaced the pump.I did not replace the fuel lines from tank to eng. now i guess it's time to pull apart again. I've had 3 sets off plugs in it since i started working on the tractor.

Sam Mac 08-11-2013 09:07 AM

Are you sure the deck is not binding up? Kind of sounds like it has something that is pulling it down. I know my 2182 also with the 60" Haban will bog a bit when it gets a bunch of build up from wet grass.

If you think the carb is bad I have a good one in the box. Thought I had a bad carb but it turned out to be spark plug issues.

Other thoughts, fuel line, maybe the coil is going bad. :bigthink:

rweaver 08-11-2013 01:24 PM

if its a late 2182 and its a 6in pto pulley and has a haban deck when it gets turning hard it could bog the engine since the haban was for the 4 1/4in pto pulley

Sam Mac 08-11-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rweaver (Post 210379)
if its a late 2182 and its a 6in pto pulley and has a haban deck when it gets turning hard it could bog the engine since the haban was for the 4 1/4in pto pulley

Ray the later Haban's have a larger pulley on the deck also. I have an early Haban on my 2182 but I replaced the pulley.

Pulley, Center Part Number: 756-3057 this is the pulley for the later decks

Pulley, Center Part Number: HA-14241 this is the pulley for the early decks

J-Mech 08-11-2013 02:51 PM

The thing that gets me, is you say sometimes it does it right away, other times it's fine for a perhaps an hour. I'm still leaning towards a fuel issue, but Sam may also be correct. If you don't find anything with either, and you replace the cap/rotor/ and wires and it still has problems. It is possible that the pickup in the dist is going bad. Really, the best way to find the problem is to get it to act up and then do some testing. Play with the deck, check it out and see if maybe a bearing is getting hot and binding. Pull the fuel line, see if you have flow ECT.... It would be really nice if you had some way to check timing. Did you ever notice if the temp was climbing when this happens?

Mcamp 08-11-2013 03:44 PM

This just has the idiot lights so no temp gauge, if i had specs. i would check the timing but i don't have any book that lists the specs. My books say "see your dealer". I have checked the belts for temp. and even after mowing for an hour they are able to be handled easily,i'll pull pto belt and check movement of all pulleys just to be sure

Mike McKown 08-11-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mcamp (Post 210264)

I did not replace the fuel lines from tank to eng. now i guess it's time to pull apart again.

Your tractor is old enough it may be time to change the fuel lines. They could be collapsing internally after some time of running.

Also, if you really are running out of fuel, next time the engine acts up, pull the choke out slightly and the engine should pick up at least momentarily. If it does, you have a fuel supply problem "somewhere".

Another thought. If you have run some old gasoline through that engine, it can cause sticking valves.


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