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Dane in PA 05-10-2013 08:28 PM

1961 Cub Diesel Re-Power
 
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Well guys, I got a new toy today! 6hp Diesel from Carroll Stream. Looks pretty good under the hood (or, wedged under...), and there is lots of space to play with if I feel like adding anything later. This is going to be a working tractor, so I don't want to mess up my pretty decent K-161, so I'm keeping it in the case that I find another O that has a smoker. I even got around to starting a mounting plate! I will be re-locating the tank and muffler at a later time, and just running is sans-hood until that point. It seems like it should work very well in this tractor, as basically everything has been lining up well! :biggrin2: Wish me luck!

CADplans 05-10-2013 08:35 PM

Looks like you will need to make a "midnight run" on the local restaurant used cooking oil pit so you can get the grass cut!! :bigeyes:

Looks good, I wish you were doing it in a WF, :bigthink:

maybe somebody else will volunteer!! :biggrin2:

scgtguy 05-10-2013 08:40 PM

diesel
 
this looks coooool ... keep us posted with the refit .... what are the specs on the grease burner? :beerchug:

B.

cubby102 05-10-2013 08:57 PM

i was thinking about doing just this to one of my originals let me know how it turns out! i just didnt see spendin the coin on that engine without knowing for sure if it was going to work

Dane in PA 05-10-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 192872)
Looks like you will need to make a "midnight run" on the local restaurant used cooking oil pit so you can get the grass cut!! :bigeyes:

Looks good, I wish you were doing it in a WF, :bigthink:

maybe somebody else will volunteer!! :biggrin2:

Maybe cooking oil in the future, but this one will be run on regular "off-road". We have a 500 gal. tank that we use for the larger equip., and I hate using gas-cans. I don't have a deck either... Actually have one lined up to buy, but the weather has been too crappy to go get it! :bash2: A WF would be neat, but I think a "Popper" engine in a "Popper Age" tractor is more my style.

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Originally Posted by scgtguy (Post 192874)
this looks coooool ... keep us posted with the refit .... what are the specs on the grease burner? :beerchug:

B.

See for yourself! http://www.carrollstream.com/6HP_Die..._p/cs178es.htm

:beerchug:

Dane in PA 05-10-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cubby102 (Post 192876)
i was thinking about doing just this to one of my originals let me know how it turns out! i just didnt see spendin the coin on that engine without knowing for sure if it was going to work

If you go with the 10hp, you will need to get a new cup made for the flywheel. Its base is longer and narrower than the Kohler, but I'm making a simple mount. I can't wait to get it going! :biggrin2:

Maxwelhse 05-10-2013 09:05 PM

Cummins 4BT!!!! Your grass will wither at the sight!!!!

That would be an awesome tractor!! :)

scgtguy 05-10-2013 09:18 PM

diesel
 
man...

i'm in like with that ! most diesels have aprox. 2x hp to torque .... should be a good motor for it. Probably fill it with fuel once every 3 months !
Hope it has comprssion release or you will have diesel elbow aka tennis elbow !

looking forward to the build sequence !

B.

Dane in PA 05-10-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scgtguy (Post 192885)
man...

i'm in like with that ! most diesels have aprox. 2x hp to torque .... should be a good motor for it. Probably fill it with fuel once every 3 months !
Hope it has comprssion release or you will have diesel elbow aka tennis elbow !

looking forward to the build sequence !

B.

Yup. That is the big red lever on the injector! I could pull start it, but thank God it has elec. start! :biggrin2:

scgtguy 05-10-2013 09:42 PM

grocery getter / grease burner
 
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this is my go to town / hwy car .... TDI Golf .... i've removes all the pollution control and remapped the ecu .... I average 45 mpg and 50's on the hwy ... little monster will scoot to!

scgtguy 05-10-2013 09:44 PM

tdi
 
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one more ... fuel monitor

vartz04 05-10-2013 09:45 PM

I need to do this. Should be comparable to my k241 power wise. Price iant bad either. Maybe next year. I need details on everything that doesn't just bolt in.

Thanks

Dane in PA 05-10-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scgtguy (Post 192889)
one more ... fuel monitor

Very nice. I would love to have an 1980's VW Rabbit Diesel...

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Originally Posted by vartz04 (Post 192890)
I need to do this. Should be comparable to my k241 power wise. Price iant bad either. Maybe next year. I need details on everything that doesn't just bolt in.

Thanks

I would look into their 10hp model for it. It should be a straight shot, besides the mounting plate. :bigthink:

Dane in PA 05-11-2013 05:34 PM

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I believe I am the first to convert a 1961 Cub to diesel. Here she is, running and driving! It is surprisingly easy to pull-start using the original cup, and runs like a champ! I just need to hook up the throttle, and get the electrical system built. I may just end up cutting up my hood, as it is pretty rusted out in the front. Such a smooth engine... at idle, it makes the front end do a little dance! I'll have to get a video of it tomorrow.

scgtguy 05-11-2013 08:26 PM

I love the smell of diesel in the morning !
 
This looks great ... a vidio would be appreciated ... does the tank fit or do you have to fab something ?

B.

Cubcrazy 05-11-2013 08:27 PM

Looks good Dane!:beer2:

Sam Mac 05-11-2013 09:00 PM

COOL! Hope you post more on the repower. Just my 2 cents but if the fuel tank location is the big issue you may want to relocate it an put an electric pump on it. :beerchug:

ACecil 05-11-2013 10:27 PM

Looking good! Looking forward to your vid!

Dane in PA 05-11-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scgtguy (Post 193083)
This looks great ... a vidio would be appreciated ... does the tank fit or do you have to fab something ?

B.

I'll either have to fab another mount, or just make a cut-out in the hood, which at this point is a viable option. The same would have to happen for the muffler.

:bigthink:

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Originally Posted by Cubcrazy (Post 193086)
Looks good Dane!:beer2:

Thank-ya. :beer2:

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 193094)
COOL! Hope you post more on the repower. Just my 2 cents but if the fuel tank location is the big issue you may want to relocate it an put an electric pump on it. :beerchug:

The engine has 2 fuel pumps on it already so that isn't the issue. I just don't know where a good location is to put it, so I think I may just cut out this nasty hood until I really decide I want to make it look nice.

:bigthink:

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Originally Posted by ACecil (Post 193118)
Looking good! Looking forward to your vid!

Thanks! I will try and get one up early tomorrow.

cubby102 05-12-2013 02:43 AM

What about making a bracket to fit the tank between the grille and engine. Them make a exhaust to clear the hood. Maybe a stack since it is a diesel after all

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cubby102 (Post 193165)
What about making a bracket to fit the tank between the grille and engine. Them make a exhaust to clear the hood. Maybe a stack since it is a diesel after all

I want to keep that space open, just in case I want to add hydraulics or something later. I was thinking of putting it on the side of the dash, tucked underneath the battery box...

:bigthink:

cubby102 05-12-2013 01:39 PM

:beer2:that would work to, being a diesel a huge tank isnt really needed. im just not a big fan of cutting on this old metal dented up and rusty or not!

Sam Mac 05-12-2013 01:54 PM

You could put a fuel tank under the seat. :bigthink:

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 193250)
You could put a fuel tank under the seat. :bigthink:

That's an idea... An old plastic tank from a Sears Suburban might work... But I think I'll be adding fenders later... I don't know...

Methos 05-12-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 193250)
You could put a fuel tank under the seat. :bigthink:

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Originally Posted by Dane in PA (Post 193252)
That's an idea... An old plastic tank from a Sears Suburban might work... But I think I'll be adding fenders later... I don't know...

Who did the custom tank behind the seat last year?:bigthink: It turned out awesome.

Sam Mac 05-12-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 193256)
Who did the custom tank behind the seat last year?:bigthink: It turned out awesome.

I was thinking about getting a tank from these guys for my 71/121
http://www.boydwelding.com/

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 193259)
I was thinking about getting a tank from these guys for my 71/121
http://www.boydwelding.com/

It would be cool if they could somehow make a dash-tower with a gas tank hidden inside...

:bigthink:

The videos are uploading, and should be up in an hour or so. :beer2:

CADplans 05-12-2013 02:28 PM

And, remember the tank ain't gotta be very big!! :bigthink:

I spread fertilizer with my QL 1000 for over an hour on Friday, I burned about a quart of gasoline.:bigeyes:

My QL 1000 only has a 1 gallon tank, that is good, because it uses so little gas, if the tank were much bigger, the gas might get stale before I used it!!

:biggrin2:

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 193262)
And, remember the tank ain't gotta be very big!! :bigthink:

I spread fertilizer with my QL 1000 for over an hour on Friday, I burned about a quart of gasoline.:bigeyes:

My QL 1000 only has a 1 gallon tank, that is good, because it uses so little gas, if the tank were much bigger, the gas might get stale before I used it!!

:biggrin2:

I have ran this engine for about 3 hours already, and the level hasn't changed. Oh yeah. :beerchug:

Sam Mac 05-12-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dane in PA (Post 193196)
I want to keep that space open, just in case I want to add hydraulics or something later. I was thinking of putting it on the side of the dash, tucked underneath the battery box...

:bigthink:

This is a tank off a Honda 13HP vert shaft engine. I had it mounted to the side of the tower for a while but have since moved it to the space between the battery and engine. One other option is to put the tank in the battery space and then go with a smaller dry cell battery like this one http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm#g16ep

These batterys have plenty of cranking power, used to have one in my race car with a 383 Chevy.

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 193265)
This is a tank off a Honda 13HP vert shaft engine. I had it mounted to the side of the tower for a while but have since moved it to the space between the battery and engine. One other option is to put the tank in the battery space and then go with a smaller dry cell battery like this one http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm#g16ep

These batterys have plenty of cranking power, used to have one in my race car with a 383 Chevy.

I'll have to look around a bit. I don't want to cut up this machine much, except those parts I will have to replace anyways.

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 03:12 PM

Here are the videos!!!!

Cold Start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue1RV4UNq6A

Driving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh92taGRJpo

Riding: (Warning, shaky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNMpFE7_2eA

That loud rattling is the front grill-insert. I put a bolt through it afterwards to get it to stop.

scgtguy 05-12-2013 03:54 PM

diesel does it
 
Hey ,


try not to run over those cars in the road ! they might sue you for damages !

love it !

B.

cubcadet 05-12-2013 04:04 PM

nice job:beer2:

Sam Mac 05-12-2013 04:37 PM

Way COOL! :beerchug:

Dane in PA 05-12-2013 06:32 PM

Thanks guys! I should be getting a deck and snow-plow for it sometime soon, so I'm really excited to get it running some equipment, though I have been putting a couple hours on it just putting-around.

jbrewer 05-12-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cubby102 (Post 193249)
:beer2: im just not a big fan of cutting on this old metal dented up and rusty or not!


Nothing wrong with a cub showing it's miles...I salute you!

Cubcrazy 05-12-2013 08:56 PM

Enjoyed the vids!

Darrell 05-12-2013 09:02 PM

That thing is cool !! :beerchug:

Now you got me wanting one !!!

ACecil 05-12-2013 10:12 PM

Great vids! Thanks for sharing!


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