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kpd007 04-17-2013 10:52 PM

1210 and 1810
 
Is there any difference between these two other than the engines? I know that old cubs are worth what you are willing to pay. With that said, I am willing to pay darn near asking price for a couple that I have found.

Any issues with either model?

Any issues with either engine? One is a Kohler single and the other a Kohler Magnum double.

Not sure which one to grab/go for.......and "BOTH!" is NOT an option:Snooty::beerchug: I have some really steep property to mow as well.

Selling my JD 316 to fund it.

Regards,
KPD

jacobd 04-17-2013 11:49 PM

Assuming condition is the same and price is similar go for the 1810. The 12 single is a good engine but the 18 twin is better imo. How much are they asking for each tractor?

kpd007 04-18-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jacobd (Post 187939)
Assuming condition is the same and price is similar go for the 1810. The 12 single is a good engine but the 18 twin is better imo. How much are they asking for each tractor?

1210 - $575 OBO

1810 - $650

Both are pretty nice and look well cared for. Cubs pop up fairly regularly around here. I passed on a 1641 last fall that looked new with 425 hours. Guy wanted $675. Never should have passed on it.

zippy1 04-18-2013 12:30 AM

What neck of the woods you located in? (Don't worry,I'm not interested in them) reason I'm asking is not to many pop up around this area.

Sam Mac 04-18-2013 07:35 AM

I'd go for the 1810. I had a 1210 and hated the rubber mounts for the engine.

ACecil 04-18-2013 10:29 AM

I'd also get the 1810. The twins are so smooth!

kpd007 04-18-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 187943)
What neck of the woods you located in? (Don't worry,I'm not interested in them) reason I'm asking is not to many pop up around this area.

Down in Kenosha/Racine county. The Milwaukee and Chicago area have cubs aplenty. :biggrin2:

Oconto County is better living though:beerchug:. Love that area. Funny. I love most of the state except the area I live in!

Come on down and buy some of these cubs. 3-4 hours. Problem is that you have to go into enemy territory and enter Illinois occasionally.

KPD

kpd007 04-18-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ACecil (Post 187976)
I'd also get the 1810. The twins are so smooth!

I will talk with the 1810 person tonight. A church/school owns it right now. It's around 600 hours. Thanks fellas.

red56turbo 04-18-2013 11:15 AM

Shoot, if you're sellin' a green weanie, you should be able to buy both. Those green things are made of green. :biggrin2:

All kidding aside, I'd go for the 1810 as well. Good luck and keep us posted.

kpd007 04-18-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 187984)
Shoot, if you're sellin' a green weanie, you should be able to buy both. Those green things are made of green. :biggrin2:

All kidding aside, I'd go for the 1810 as well. Good luck and keep us posted.

That is funny you say that....I had the same thought myself. However, I also want to buy an LP Generator for my house, or a nice grill, or a gas heater for my garage......sigh

JD's do get good money. My problem with my 316 is the Onan engine. Strong, good runner, but no parts. And my wife will be easily confused by another yellow/white tractor.:biggrin2:

Methos 04-18-2013 11:52 AM

I would go for the 1810 as well.:TwoCents:

kpd007 04-18-2013 12:53 PM

Hotlink to the ad....

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/grd/3749126281.html

I talked with the guy who put it up for the church/school. Said it may need a starter, but otherwise seems OK. I hope someone has changed the oil in the last 20-25 years:bigthink:.

Cubcrazy 04-18-2013 01:04 PM

Looks to be in pretty good shape!:beerchug:

ACecil 04-18-2013 01:11 PM

That's a nice 1810! Hope your able to acquire it.

kpd007 04-18-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubcrazy (Post 188019)
Looks to be in pretty good shape!:beerchug:

Agreed! The ad says another deck is available too...no price though. It looks like a nice deck and 50" to boot. I wonder if it would fit my 1450? Looks like it.

Methos 04-18-2013 01:57 PM

That looks sweet! From what I've seen most of the church stuff has someone that takes care of it for them. Either a member or dealer that treats the church with discounts or free service. I know a guy that does his church lowers and says he spends more time maintaining theirs then his.

inspectorudy 04-18-2013 03:53 PM

Man, if it were me I would pounce on that 1810 asap. You might even be able to get them to trow in the extra deck for a little more money and then sell it. The 1810-1811 models are good strong tractors. I have the 1811 and where you see the hour meter I put in an oil pressure gauge to let me know right away if there was a pressure problem. I never understood the point of putting an hour meter on the dash like you need to look at it every time you use your tractor and need to see the minutes that tick by. Go get it!::beerchug:

kpd007 04-19-2013 06:06 PM

I am looking at this on Monday. Can someone float me an idea on what the extra deck is worth. I want to be fair with my offer. He says the deck is almost new and hardly used.

Regards,
KPD

Sam Mac 04-19-2013 06:16 PM

If you are talking about the yellow deck my guess is that it is easily worth $200.00 based on what it looks like in the pic. Just my 2 cents.

kpd007 04-19-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 188327)
If you are talking about the yellow deck my guess is that it is easily worth $200.00 based on what it looks like in the pic. Just my 2 cents.

Yes it is the yellow one. This church has two 1810's in similar condition. The yellow is their spare. I have a 44 and 50 now. The 1810 will come with a 44. I probably don't need four decks. I will throw $100 out there.

rweaver 04-19-2013 10:49 PM

I would ask what are you going to use the tractor for if just mowing I would go for the 1210 if it has a mag12 in it they also came with k301s as well I had both we use a 1210 now as a yard tractor we used a 1810 for a short time hated the extra gas we ran thru the m18 we use gas that comes from the tractors we part and with the m18 it using so much we had to buy gas with the 1210 we saved up 10 gallons till winter now some of that is because we are stripping more plastic nose tractors and they have bigger tanks

juniors1282 04-19-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rweaver (Post 188398)
I would ask what are you going to use the tractor for if just mowing I would go for the 1210 if it has a mag12 in it they also came with k301s as well I had both we use a 1210 now as a yard tractor we used a 1810 for a short time hated the extra gas we ran thru the m18 we use gas that comes from the tractors we part and with the m18 it using so much we had to buy gas with the 1210 we saved up 10 gallons till winter now some of that is because we are stripping more plastic nose tractors and they have bigger tanks

Couldn't agree more Ray, The 12 mag sips fuel and cuts just as well as any 18 mag. Plus they are a lot cheaper to maintain and fix when they need it!

kpd007 04-20-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by juniors1282 (Post 188400)
Couldn't agree more Ray, The 12 mag sips fuel and cuts just as well as any 18 mag. Plus they are a lot cheaper to maintain and fix when they need it!

Well, now that you guys threw that out there I will give this one a look too. I cannot tell what engine it has, nor does the ad say....

Hotlink:

http://racine.craigslist.org/grd/3741935921.html

It is in nice shape as well. Will this run a 44" and 50" deck with the 12 horse?

Darrell 04-20-2013 09:36 AM

If you are mowing a small yard , get the 1210. If you are going to be mowing big acreage , get the 1810 and use the 50" deck . Just my .02 cents.

The 1210 , if in good running condition , could run a 50" deck if the grass isn't to thick and or tall . Good belts and sharp blades would be a must. Once you do the initial cut , the 1210 would have no problem with a 50" deck and shorter grass. A 44" deck would be no problem.

On either tractor , i would take the tunnel cover off and check the driveshaft/fan/couplers . I would also check the rubber engine mounts on the 1210. Take a flashlight and look at the bottom mounts for cracking/compression. They are fairly easy to see on this style of tractor. Grab the top of the engine and try to shake it and see if the engine is moving.

juniors1282 04-20-2013 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=kpd007;188413]Well, now that you guys threw that out there I will give this one a look too. I cannot tell what engine it has, nor does the ad say....

Hotlink:

http://racine.craigslist.org/grd/3741935921.html

It is in nice shape as well. Will this run a 44" and 50" deck with the 12 horse]

That's a good lookin 1210. It will run either deck no problem. I've had both the K series 12 and the mag and the mag runs great and is so smooth compared to the K series 12. I've ran both size decks on both as well and have never had a problem! I just sold a 1210 with the mag in it and probably should have kept it!! But I don't think you would be going wrong with either of the tractors your looking at.

kpd007 04-20-2013 10:19 AM

The 1210 was the mag......it sold a few days back.....

a79fordman 04-20-2013 10:26 AM

I would go with the 1810. Sorry, for tho size of tractor. I would want the 18 horse. But that's just me. Not saying anything is wrong with the 1210, bet it's a good tractor. I don't have a 1810, but I do have a 1712. I use it for snow plowing, Towing my trailers around, and going to plowdays. Great hard working tractor. Have used it to mow grass from time to time. But It don't have the best turning radias. So for mowing I have a 1320. Wonderful for mowing grass. Just my :TwoCents:

Donovan M. 04-20-2013 07:52 PM

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1810, bad thing about them is the crank seals and fuel pumps. But, great plowing tractors.

kpd007 04-21-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan M. (Post 188573)
1810, bad thing about them is the crank seals and fuel pumps. But, great plowing tractors.

When to these parts fail as far as hours? I also get the feeling that one or two passes mowing will empty the tank on these Mag 18 engines. Can the gas consumption be any worse than my Onan on my JD?

Sam Mac 04-21-2013 07:30 AM

They are not that bad on fuel, the Onan probably will use as much if not more.

Mcamp 04-21-2013 07:36 AM

I have an 1811 with a 50in. deck and can mow my 4 acre yard on a tank of gas. My yard has some steep areas and after having lots of 1210-1211 tractors here they are underpowered when mowing my hills in heavy grass conditions in early spring/summer.My son's 18 mag in the 1872 has 1700hrs on it replaced the fuel pump last year, still the orig. crank seal.

jacobd 04-21-2013 08:03 AM

The M18 will use more gas then the M12 but they will both use lots less then an onan. Sam pointed out the 1210 has rubber motor mounts. I dont know if they're anything like the setup in the quiteline series tractors but if they are I would stay far away.
You really can't go too wrong whatever you decide but if you get the 1811 I'm sure you won't regret it. I feel like all the kohler twins get a bad rap when really it was just the series I's that had issues. The series II and after are darn near bullet proof, only problems I've ever had have been with a gummed up starter and a crummy walbro carb. Plus they run nice and smooth and you'll have no trouble blasting a 50'' deck through thick spring grass.

Sam Mac 04-21-2013 08:20 AM

The 1210's motor mounts are just like the QL's and they SUCK! They also eat driveline parts. I fixed my 1210 by re-powering it with the engine, drive shaft and rearend out of a 1440. Don't think you want to do all that.

a79fordman 04-21-2013 09:11 AM

I cannot see the fuel usage being that bad. My series 2 17 in my 1712 is not bad on fuel. Took that to plowday & could have plowed most of the day on one tank of fuel. I would say I was out in the feilds for a four hours & plowing fields that are over a mile long. That was running 3/4 to full throttle most of the time. Back when I used it to mow, I don't remember a problem with using to much full. When I plow my drive way in the winter. I go threw about one tank full of fuel.

kpd007 04-21-2013 09:27 AM

Thanks to everyone who posted in here! Good info on the tractor and the motor. I will post up pics if I buy it.

ACecil 04-21-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kpd007 (Post 188742)
Thanks to everyone who posted in here! Good info on the tractor and the motor. I will post up pics if I buy it.

Hope you get it! :beerchug:


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