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nikster 03-27-2013 06:44 PM

Houston I think I have a problem? (Steering wobble)
 
My #127 steering has a distinct wobble,

Side to side= 1/2 inch.

Up &down = about the same. :bash2:

How much time do I have before it goes kaput?

Is this a big job to undertake? I have no clue?

Any suggestions?

NIK,

finsruskw 03-27-2013 06:58 PM

Check wheel bearings for tightness/condition same for spindles.
Check tie rod ends for tightness/condition
Check axle pivot pin for tightness/condition.
Check lower steering draglink ends for tightness/condition
Check lower steering sector cam follower for tightness and condition.
Could be any one of those and/or a combination of 2 or more.

Just may be time for a steering/axle/spindle/bearing re-hab.
Just finished up doing a 1250 today

If Ya have to hire someone to do it and furnish parts I could forsee this job costing upwards of $100 maybe more just for parts alone if you use good quality stuff.

Good luck!!

Dave S.

Sam Mac 03-27-2013 06:58 PM

Just a little more info on what is loose and just maybe we can give you an answer. No warranty expressed or implied. :biggrin2:

cub123 03-27-2013 07:07 PM

Sounds like the bearings may have come loose in the steering box with that much up and down movement on the steering wheel. My 123 did that before I ended up rebuilding the steering box, sounds like it might be time to dig in:biggrin2:

vartz04 03-27-2013 07:33 PM

I got a kit from ccspecalties which was $35 shipped, included the super steer upgrade, a new foam seal for the top of the column and a ball bearing to replace the plastic bushing that is on the top of the column.

I also bought 4 new rod ends from mcmaster carr $21 shipped. I got the stock style ones, you can get the upgraded HD ones for about $10 more

My bearings and cups were good, so was my cam follower but if you need those parts its $40ish for the bearings/bearing holders and $30ish for the cam follower. Axle pin is about $20.

The grease in there probably looks disgusting too. Pop the column, take it apart and asses the situation. Worst case you will probably need to spend about $150 in parts to get it to better than stock condition and it will be that good for another 40 years. If most of the stuff is good youll be out about $50-$75. I didn't want to do this kind of stuff on my cub when I started the refresh (planned on only replacing what was broke) but that went out the window about 2 weeks into it.

Flatbedford 03-27-2013 09:27 PM

Turn the wheel and look at all the linkages to see where the slop is. The rod ends are an easy and cheap fix.

nikster 03-27-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 183554)
Just a little more info on what is loose and just maybe we can give you an answer. No warranty expressed or implied. :biggrin2:


Well, just sitting there I can move my steering wheel, side to side. I fired it up & took it for a spin & the same.

Just that the steering wheel can be moved as stated. Front end is tight just the wheel:bash2:

Nik

nikster 03-27-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flatbedford (Post 183585)
Turn the wheel and look at all the linkages to see where the slop is. The rod ends are an easy and cheap fix.

I will start fooling with it next week after Easter.

Thanks guyzzzzzz for the input.

NIK

I think I can do something like this????

Merk 03-27-2013 09:49 PM

Here is a link to a topic that has information on rebuilding a steering column for my 70:
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ght=Uncle+Dick
This should show you what needs done to yours.

nikster 03-28-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merk (Post 183592)
Here is a link to a topic that has information on rebuilding a steering column for my 70:
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ght=Uncle+Dick
This should show you what needs done to yours.

Wow, a labor of love! Great, great blow x blow pictorial of your re-build. Gotta bookmark this one.

NIK,

nikster 03-29-2013 11:45 AM

Movie clip?
 
Hope this works? Short clip of my problem steering wheel .

Any idea from viewing itwhat the problem is? Or where to start?

I need all the help I can get. Im sure there are people that can look at this clip & tell exactly what is wrong.

Nik

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...psc6271cd9.jpg

cub123 03-29-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikster (Post 183953)
Hope this works? Short clip of my problem steering wheel .

Any idea from viewing itwhat the problem is? Or where to start?

I need all the help I can get. Im sure there are people that can look at this clip & tell exactly what is wrong.

Nik

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...psc6271cd9.jpg

The side to side slop it your upper bushing, just under the steering wheel. Pop the IH cap off, remove the nut, soak the shaft with some PB blaster and tap the shaft ( with the nut on flush with the top of the shaft) with a brass hammer while pulling on the wheel and most of the time it wil pop off, just be careful of the plastic on your wheel. It's easier with two people. Once off you'll see the culprit, the plastic bushing. It's easily replaced, but you might want to pull the box and everything at this point and clean/ check things out.

vartz04 03-29-2013 01:09 PM

Mine did the same thing. I bought this and I will be putting it in soon (when i get to that part of the tractor anyway its in pieces)

http://ccspecialties.org/pics/bearing.JPG

Should solve the issue and is cheaper than the plastic replacement

http://ccspecialties.org/steering_seats.html

I bought the upgrade for the steering, and the bearing came with a new column seal too. It was like $35 shipped. for those parts.

darkminion_17 03-29-2013 08:14 PM

I would check the bolts holding the steering box to the frame.Then check the side to side movement.
Jeff..
that bearing can be had at any hardware store.I got mine from Ace hardware.

nikster 03-30-2013 08:41 AM

Thanks for the comments, ill tackle this one next week.

NIK,

ricks 03-31-2013 12:54 PM

Hey Nick. If you want i can stop by and take a look.
Hope you have a Happy Easter.

nikster 04-02-2013 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks (Post 184413)
Hey Nick. If you want i can stop by and take a look.
Hope you have a Happy Easter.

Rick, thanks for the offer. I'm gonna see what happens when I start taking apart the obvious? If I run into a dead end ( my capabilities) ill call you.

With all the comments listed from you guyzzzzzzzzz, I think I'm capable?:bash2:

Nik

vartz04 04-02-2013 08:06 AM

Yes as long as you don't mind getting dirty. You just take it apart clean it. And put it back together. A little adjustment and tada New steering.


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