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sawdustdad 01-28-2013 08:41 AM

A 1650 for the budding collection...
 
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When I went to look at this, the owner thought it had dual hydraulics, so I was really excited. But alas, it didn't. It looks to be in nice shape overall, but it sat for a long time, and isn't running yet. Won't be long. Cleaned up the fuel tank and line, need to rebuild the carb and do a tune up. Cranks fine, just needs a little TLC.
I thought the 1650s came with tail lights, this one has the wiring harness, but it's only got reflectors.

Got a 48 inch mower deck and a 52 inch front blade with it. Deck's in pretty good shape, and the blade has never been used.

drglinski 01-28-2013 08:54 AM

Looks like a gem! I like 1650s.

Cubcrazy 01-28-2013 09:31 AM

Congrats on the 1650!
Looks in really good shape. :beerchug:

ACecil 01-28-2013 01:08 PM

Congrats on your nice 1650!

robpa 01-28-2013 03:06 PM

Nice condition, wish my 1450 looked as good.

Muzzy 01-28-2013 03:10 PM

Yeah, That's a nice one. Congrats.

cubcadet 01-28-2013 04:14 PM

really nice 1650:beerchug:

steve59 01-28-2013 06:56 PM

That's a beast!!! Here's a few mods I did to my 1450.
• Complete Engine Overhaul using Genuine Kolher Parts. (Piston, rings, rod, valves, governor, gaskets)
• Headlight claps so they won’t twist from vibration
• Chrome Muffler extension
• Engine cradle modification with 759-3952 mounts
• Muffler Crutch
• Muffler box from Extreme Motor Works
• Super Steering Upgrade
• 1” front axle spindles with High Strenght Heim Joint Front Tie Rod Ends
• Powder coated step plates with stainless steel bolts
• 3 point sleeve hitch
• 1 ¼” receiver hitch
• Rear SMV emblem
• Rear mounted tool box from Extreme Motor Works
• Four 26 lbs. wheel weights
• Carlisle Tru-Power Bar tires front and rear
• 4” High Speed mower deck center pulley
• Dash switch wired to rear 12 volt 2 prong plug for yard sprayer and Snow plowing rear light
• Flasher unit and harness off an old Combine so when my lights are on the rear tail lights blink.
• Homemade Exhaust Deflector
• GE H7606 Halogen Head Lights

zippy1 01-28-2013 07:41 PM

Congrats on your "new" 1650.
There a great tractor:beerchug:

macman81 01-28-2013 08:26 PM

im not picking on it its a beautiful tractor but why does it have an 82 series steering wheel on it?

Cubcrazy 01-28-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by macman81 (Post 171545)
im not picking on it its a beautiful tractor but why does it have an 82 series steering wheel on it?

The later quietlines had that kind of steering wheel on them.

dag1450 01-28-2013 09:16 PM

Nice 1650, I have always liked the look of those rear tires (the tread looks like peanuts). I have those on my 1450. And my 1450 also has the same steering wheel,i think my is a 1979.Dave

sawdustdad 01-28-2013 10:08 PM

I need to check the S/N and see what year it is. I think everything on it is original.

I need to rebuild the carb, when I cleaned the tank and put fresh fuel in it, the carb overflowed on the floor. Float is stuck or the bowl filler valve is stuck. Have strong spark, so that should get it running. Waiting on rebuild kit.

I'll put tail lights and a back up light on it, need to get a lift for it, too. Then I need to assemble that 52 inch blade and see how that looks. I also have a set of chains for the turf tires. So, this will be fun. Not so much painting, maybe the hood and side panels and new decals. The rest of the paint is in pretty good shape.

I see that the mule drive has "tilted" idler pulleys--this is normal, right, as the deck pulley is off center? Forgot to look at that before I pulled the deck off.

darkminion_17 01-28-2013 10:18 PM

Great looking original tractor.
Can't wait to see your next cub.

YOU WILL GET ANOTHER!!!

sawdustdad 01-29-2013 07:46 AM

I'm thinking a few more...one with a rear PTO, an 82 series, and one with dual hydraulics. Maybe an "O" just because. I'm gonna need to clean out my building to make room for these!!!!

sawdustdad 01-30-2013 08:01 AM

So I've been digging into this 1650 and discovered something interesting. I was adjusting the steering gear follower stud to take some slop out of the steering and noticed the entire steering gear housing was moving slightly as I turned the steering wheel. Thinking the two bolts securing it to the cross brace were loose, I checked them and they were tight. After a little more fiddling around, I discovered that the cross brace weld to the frame on the left side has partially failed. It's still attached at the top, but the bottom of the cross brace moves relative to the frame as the steering is turned. Will have to tilt the tractor up, clean up the paint and reweld the brace. That means that the frame will need to be repainted on the outside as the weld will certainly scorch the frame paint.

I've decided to pull the engine to replace the iso mounts and do the iso frame mod as well. While I'm at it, I'll check the steering gearbox, replace the seal and check the follower stud for wear. I've got to tighten up the axle channel as well, so I'll replace the pivot pin after I do that.

I pull the carb last night and cleaned it. Definitely needs a new fill valve. I'll try to take pictures of the frame repair when I get to it.

red56turbo 01-30-2013 10:09 AM

Nice 1650! Looks to be in great shape.

sawdustdad 01-31-2013 07:44 AM

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Pulled the motor last night, and am looking at the iso mount mod. Don't really want to pull the oil pan to use as an alignment jig for the weld, but looks like that's the best way to do it. Will have to order a gasket. I thought I had one, but don't.

What are your thoughts on the iso mount mod? (adding the cross brace in front of the engine) Critical? Really important? Nice to do? I have the stuff to do it, just wondering if it's worth it. I guess I'm looking for some feedback.

Carb is in pieces on the bench. New IH iso mounts on order. Will be looking at the steering gear next.

Some shots of the weld repair on the steering gear support bracket. You can see the cracked weld in the first picture, cleaned up in the second and re-welded in the third. Not pretty, but serviceable.

bluesman 01-31-2013 12:46 PM

very nice 1650
 
From the pictures it hardly seems to have been used or maybe been garaged most of it's life. My 1650 looks like its been beaten with chains, lol, but runs like a bloody champ. I hope you post more pics as you go along, I'll be looking for them for sure.

ACecil 01-31-2013 01:09 PM

Thanks for the update and pics. :beerchug:

sawdustdad 01-31-2013 02:04 PM

As I've been working on this 1650, I've discovered that much of it has been repainted. I can see that they masked off the hood decals and painted around them. The hour meter says 560 hours. But I think it's been well maintained--it has some newer parts on it, and I can see some electrical repairs, not necessarily highest quality, but OK. And it did sit in a barn for 12 years.

Methos 02-01-2013 10:25 AM

Congrats on your 1650 score!

sawdustdad 02-02-2013 10:51 PM

Working on the 1650. Pulled the oil pan tonight and used it as a jig to weld the cradle mod. Cleaned up the cradle and primed it. Waiting for the new iso mounts to reinstall. Meanwhile, will pull the steering gear and clean/adjust/repair as needed. Rebuilt the carb, installed new points and static timed the engine. My phone died tonight so no pics this post. Sorry.

sawdustdad 02-08-2013 08:19 AM

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1650 Going back together. Started it up for the first time, and it took off like gangbusters. Runs nice. Some more work yet to be done, adding a lift, need to fill the tires, change the hydro fluid and filter, etc. Thinking about replacing front tires with some ribs. New decals on the tins. Need to install them on the dash tower sides.

TheIHMan 02-08-2013 08:21 AM

Nice, looks great!!!

Cubcrazy 02-08-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheIHMan (Post 173187)
Nice, looks great!!!

X2!:beerchug:

Methos 02-08-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheIHMan (Post 173187)
Nice, looks great!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubcrazy (Post 173196)
X2!:beerchug:

X3! :beerchug:

ACecil 02-08-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 173186)
1650 Going back together. Started it up for the first time, and it took off like gangbusters. Runs nice. Some more work yet to be done, adding a lift, need to fill the tires, change the hydro fluid and filter, etc. Thinking about replacing front tires with some ribs. New decals on the tins. Need to install them on the dash tower sides.

Great job! :beerchug:

red56turbo 02-08-2013 01:14 PM

Looking good! Keep up the nice work and keep the pics flowing........

sawdustdad 02-08-2013 10:23 PM

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pics as requested. Changing the hydraulic fluid and final shots. Going to look at a tiller and a snow thrower, lift, etc, tomorrow. So more pics to follow with some implements installed.

Cubcrazy 02-09-2013 06:21 AM

Nice looking 1650!:beerchug:

Muzzy 02-09-2013 10:21 AM

Looking good.

cubcadet 02-09-2013 10:56 AM

nice looks good:beerchug:

ACecil 02-09-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 173318)
pics as requested. Changing the hydraulic fluid and final shots. Going to look at a tiller and a snow thrower, lift, etc, tomorrow. So more pics to follow with some implements installed.

That's a sharp 1650!

sawdustdad 02-12-2013 09:28 AM

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A few more pics of the 1650, added a lift and test fitted the new 54 inch blade. Will need to take the blade off to get it out the door. Filled the tires with washer fluid. I had a heck of a time re-installing the brake pedal return spring. Used a piece of nylon line pulled through the frame to stretch the spring so I could hook it on the pedal arm. The lift rod I had was too long, so I cut it and bent a new elbow on it. I think I'm about done with this tractor now. I have to rehab the 50 inch deck next.

Methos 02-12-2013 10:11 AM

Looks great!:beerchug:

Cubcrazy 02-12-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 173878)
Looks great!:beerchug:

X2!:beerchug:

ACecil 02-12-2013 01:23 PM

The 1650 is looking great!

Sam Mac 02-12-2013 03:20 PM

What they said!:beerchug:


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