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4SPEED 12-27-2012 02:21 PM

Found A "0" need your input
 
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I found this 0 wile looking for parts for my snow thrower.

I sent the guy a email , I asked for the S/N.
22888 he sent me. (need your help here) what year is it?

I see it has the wrong wheels on the rear and I hope thats just a seat cover over the pan. and no fenders.

what would you pay for it? to restore and keep for yourself.

Cubcrazy 12-27-2012 02:31 PM

Looks like Dec. of 61.

cubfixer 12-27-2012 02:32 PM

According to the serial number, it was made in January of 1962. Nice looking "O"! :biggrin2:

4SPEED 12-27-2012 02:44 PM

thanks guys. hes asking 400.00 for it. and said he'd come down some. to what ? I dont know. I dought I take it at that price.
she'll be a plow day & tractor show Queen when Im done with it.

ihcc104 12-27-2012 04:24 PM

I would buy that in a heartbeat for 400, and if he is willing to come down that would be even better.

I paid $300 for this one about a month ago....

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0939.jpg

cubcadet 12-27-2012 04:24 PM

i think $250 to $300 is fair if he would take that its pretty clean too:beerchug:

4SPEED 12-27-2012 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=ihcc104;166563]I would buy that in a heartbeat for 400, and if he is willing to come down that would be even better.

I paid $300 for this one about a month ago....


sorry but I would not of spent 300 for that. but thats just me. 175- 200 maybe.

if I can get it for 300 Id take it. I just know I'll have close to a grand in it by the time its done.

ihcc104 12-27-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ihcc104 (Post 166563)
I would buy that in a heartbeat for 400, and if he is willing to come down that would be even better.

I paid $300 for this one about a month ago....


sorry but I would not of spent 300 for that. but thats just me. 175- 200 maybe.

if I can get it for 300 Id take it. I just know I'll have close to a grand in it by the time its done.

One that is as complete as that one, wont need much more than a $100 to a couple hundred dollars into it to get it show ready as long as it drives.

Mine, which is currently in a million pieces and I needed ALOT of parts for, will only end up being about 300 more, so $600 total. Its not as bad as you might think.

You are correct, Everyone is different in their opinions, I wanted this model so I bought it, but it seems people only want to spend dirt cheap for these tractors. I would pay $400+ for the one you got there, its really pretty ready to go. :TwoCents: :beerchug:

I hope you get it! and Good luck with it! They are fun tractors! :beer2:

darkminion_17 12-27-2012 06:36 PM

Looks like its a good start for a restore,but that rust,oil mess on top of the shifter concerns me...I would pull the shifter and check it out before you buy it.It may have had water in the trans and froze,pushing out the oil.
Are you getting fenders for it?
How many goodies are putting on this O?,They add up quickly.

4SPEED 12-27-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166570)

One that is as complete as that one, wont need much more than a $100 to a couple hundred dollars into it to get it show ready as long as it drives.

Mine, which is currently in a million pieces and I needed ALOT of parts for, will only end up being about 300 more, so $600 total. Its not as bad as you might think.

You are correct, Everyone is different in their opinions, I wanted this model so I bought it, but it seems people only want to spend dirt cheap for these tractors. I would pay $400+ for the one you got there, its really pretty ready to go. :TwoCents: :beerchug:

I hope you get it! and Good luck with it! They are fun tractors! :beer2:

not sure what you call being show ready for a couple hundred dollars ?

I think mine and your Idea of a restored tractor is way off. I'll have a couple hundred dollars just in the paint and clear. I dont do rattle can paint jobs. thats whats on my 882 and it looks like shizzznit.

4SPEED 12-27-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 166590)
Looks like its a good start for a restore,but that rust,oil mess on top of the shifter concerns me...I would pull the shifter and check it out before you buy it.It may have had water in the trans and froze,pushing out the oil.
Are you getting fenders for it?
How many goodies are putting on this O?,They add up quickly.

yes I did ask him about that. I had that on my 582. froze up the inside and pushed the oil out.
he said this one has never had fenders on it. but yes I'll be finding them for it. and prob a hood. he said he hamered out some dents, and pics dont/ never show what they really look like.

Id like it to have light front and back. a rear lift with spring assist. fenders. wheel weights

ihcc104 12-27-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ihcc104 (Post 166579)

not sure what you call being show ready for a couple hundred dollars ?

I think mine and your Idea of a restored tractor is way off. I'll have a couple hundred dollars just in the paint and clear. I dont do rattle can paint jobs. thats whats on my 882 and it looks like shizzznit.

I am pretty sure I am meticulas when it comes to restos', and I also do not use rattle cans, but a QT is only $25... not breaking the bank there. I would never spend that much on paint when the CC stuff is just as durable. And since CC no longer manufactures White for the O, I am just going with a White enamel that I will have slightly tinted. Personally, I don't like the look of fenders on an O, so I save money there, and headlights are something that I will put on down the road if the price is right. Good luck with it, it seems like you want it... so happy negotiating! :beerchug:

This is your post, and I wish you the best with it!

4SPEED 12-28-2012 09:32 AM

he came down and I counter offered . and got it. :beerchug:
I go pick it up maybe this weekend.

so now I'll be looking for a few items for it.

cubfixer 12-28-2012 09:45 AM

Congrats on your "O"!!! :beerchug:

Keep us informed!

red56turbo 12-28-2012 10:59 AM

Both "O's" are nice starting points. IHCC104's has the weights on the back, so there's $100 right there. As far as restoring a cub, everyone has different opinions and abilities.

4Speed's Original looks to be in nice shape. You'd probably be able to sell the deck and offset some of the purchase price. Deck looks to be in nice shape. Congrats on the purchase!

Either of them are priced good. Around here, you just can't find any decent Originals. And if you do, they price is high IMHO. :biggrin2:

4SPEED 12-28-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 166709)
Both "O's" are nice starting points. IHCC104's has the weights on the back, so there's $100 right there.

thats the problem with trying to buy anything now days.

10 / 15 years ago something that old would sell for 50 bucks or less

today everyone looks at what they could part it out for. 100 for weights 200 for fenders 175 for the oil bath 50 bucks for the sheet metal 100 for the trans.
they dont want to do the work to get that kind of money (parting it) so they say it worth that in parts. but to me as a hole its not a 625.00 tractor.

we all see it all the time on CL. guy has a POS for sale , asking way to much. cause he thinks he can get that out of it in parts.

Methos 12-28-2012 11:37 AM

Doug congrats on your O! My only advice is do it right when your doing it and don't worry about the end price if your never going to part with it. My motto is if it needs it it gets it.

4SPEED 12-28-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 166725)
Doug congrats on your O! My only advice is do it right when your doing it and don't worry about the end price if your never going to part with it. My motto is if it needs it it gets it.

thanks Duke, No wories there. its not for sale. maybe the deck will be or up for trade for other need 0 parts needed. I see you have a back rest on one of yours. keep an eye out for me on one.

Ive been reading your O thread. and doing alot of reading on the net about them. Im far from knowing it all about any of them and Im sure I'll be asking tons of questions.

Methos 12-28-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166730)
thanks Duke, No wories there. its not for sale. maybe the deck will be or up for trade for other need 0 parts needed. I see you have a back rest on one of yours. keep an eye out for me on one.

Ive been reading your O thread. and doing alot of reading on the net about them. Im far from knowing it all about any of them and Im sure I'll be asking tons of questions.

Doug, I'll keep my eye out for another back rest. I like having a pan seat with a back rest. We're looking forward to your questions and check the gears in the tranny for any broken gears. BTDT

cadzag72 12-28-2012 01:01 PM

in regard to things going for too much, there's a guy in MA trying to sell a 125 in identical condition to mine minus the unmasked rattle can treatment (lived outside for a while, surface rust, faded dash, wear & tear etc.) for 1200, which is about 5 times what I paid for mine. I guess some people out there just hear "cub cadet" and "cha ching" as the same. too bad, it makes it hard for younger people to get started.

otherwise, congrats on the O! Someday one will find its way into my shed.

4SPEED 12-28-2012 01:17 PM

just looked at fenders and a lift on epay. thats more than what Im paying for the 0 . OMG

to play you got to pay , I guess. the Portland tractor show is in a few months. talk um down in prices and no shipping to pay. it'll prob still sting.

Methos 12-28-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166741)
just looked at fenders and a lift on epay. thats more than what Im paying for the 0 . OMG

to play you got to pay , I guess. the Portland tractor show is in a few months. talk um down in prices and no shipping to pay. it'll prob still sting.

Doug don't forget about lights.:beerchug:

red56turbo 12-28-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166724)
thats the problem with trying to buy anything now days.

10 / 15 years ago something that old would sell for 50 bucks or less

today everyone looks at what they could part it out for. 100 for weights 200 for fenders 175 for the oil bath 50 bucks for the sheet metal 100 for the trans.
they dont want to do the work to get that kind of money (parting it) so they say it worth that in parts. but to me as a hole its not a 625.00 tractor.

we all see it all the time on CL. guy has a POS for sale , asking way to much. cause he thinks he can get that out of it in parts.

I don't remember saying anything about parting a cub. I've never parted one to date. I think we all have that thinking when looking at a cub for sale. :bigthink:

ACecil 12-28-2012 04:21 PM

Congrats on your O!

4SPEED 12-28-2012 04:31 PM

thanks Allen, you have a back rest , dont you? and you live where? and what weekend will you be gone? lol :banned:

ACecil 12-28-2012 04:33 PM

LOL Doug! Dually has the back rest. Hope you find one soon! :beerchug:

zippy1 12-28-2012 05:57 PM

Congrats on your "new" O:beerchug:

cjrolke 12-28-2012 06:37 PM

I have 2 originals love them both
Rear lift is very pricey
My 2 originals are 7 numbers apart from each other
Both dec 61 tractors one should have been parted but I built it instead
My 2nd one will stay stock when I redo it (it has rear pto)
The frames are prone to cracking where they bolt to the rearend
Alsoyou can get the seals for the rear by crossreferencing the part numbers to rawhide seals

I also bought a 15 pack of the o rings for the column to the dash( it was cheaper to buy15than one from ebay)

jbrewer 12-28-2012 06:51 PM

I think you scored big. A lot has to do with location.... but you did really well with that. Wish you could mail me the deck! (Could you get it in a flat rate box?) :-)

John

mreid 12-28-2012 10:40 PM

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4Speed, here in Arkansas, Cubs are around, but not as plentiful especially optioned out. I went to look at a JD one afternoon and while talking to the guy, he said he had an old Cub in the back shed and we went to look at it. Needless to say, I ended up buying it just for the options on it. I hate to part tractors, but this one was too far gone overall, the trans was a mass of rusted and jammed gears and the frame was broken and repaired(poorly) more than once. As far as price, I gave too much, but I wanted the options. I did sell the rear lift as my tractor already had one and recouped some of my money. But I got a good fuel tank, fenders and an early Brinly sleeve hitch for my tractor. Here is a pic of the parts tractor and one of my good tractor with my son plowing before I got the options put on.

By the way, I feel you did very well on your tractor, should be an easy restore. Have fun with it, that's what it is all about. Happy New Year!

Cub Cadet 123 12-29-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166730)
thanks Duke, No wories there. its not for sale. maybe the deck will be or up for trade for other need 0 parts needed. I see you have a back rest on one of yours. keep an eye out for me on one.

Ive been reading your O thread. and doing alot of reading on the net about them. Im far from knowing it all about any of them and Im sure I'll be asking tons of questions.

Doug,

Congratulations on your newest addition! The seat on that appears to be from a wheel horse or sears (?). When you get the correct O one, don't discard that seat--it's a lot more comfortable and still worth some $$. Also, go to Portland's Small Engine show if you want one of those backrest. I see them all of the time up there!!! Most of the time, the collectors have purchased them, but they will part with them if the price is right. I found the correct O blade undercarriage there this past fall and bought it that way since I've been looking for one since 2009. Also, that deck should be on it if you plan on showing it! It's in great shape and would have been the way that it would have sold originally, in most cases. The decks seem to be more difficult to get--especially in that good of shape--and show it if you've got it!

Cub Cadet 123

4SPEED 12-29-2012 12:32 AM

the guy tells me the deck is new / never used...

I thought the decks were sold separately. all the old adds say ( buy a new Cadet and get the deck free . this month only) something like that.......

jbrewer 12-29-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 166570)



You are correct, Everyone is different in their opinions, I wanted this model so I bought it, but it seems people only want to spend dirt cheap for these tractors.

I agree with you!

Like most hobbies, collecting/restoring garden tractors (and probably ESPECIALLY garden tractors) makes little financial sense. I think we probably all know car guys in our neighborhood...likewise gun guys, or maybe even tool collectors. But garden tractors? We know them thru forums, but we're not exactly on every street corner.

If you think about how much enjoyment we get from these old rusty pieces of iron and steel, the different between 200 and 400 dollars becomes minor. How many times do you look at something...anything.... that you have that you really enjoy and say "darn I paid two hundred dollars too much for this!". I bet not nearly as often as the times you recall "I let that one slip away because I was reluctant to spend the extra $200". For sure that's the way I am.

Anyway... it's a hobby, not a retirement plan. If it's enjoyable, therapeutic, relaxing and rewarding, a couple hundred dollars either way is down in the noise. Likewise, if you're willing to not be in a hurry, parts for cubs are available thru forums, ebay and advertisers at very nominal prices. I bought a couple of boxes of transmission guts for my O's for less than $30 each off of ebay, enough to do 2 tractors worth, so even major overhauls can be done fairly economically if you're patient.

To hack an old phrase "enjoyment is remembered long after the cost is forgotten.

John :beerchug:

4SPEED 12-29-2012 09:42 AM

I really didnt mean to start a price war. I should of just keeped my yap shut.

ihcc104 has a good looking 0 didnt say it wasnt. it just looks to need some correct parts to make it (to me) worth 300.00

ihcc104 if I offended you and your cub . Im sorry. that was not my intent. sometimes reading word on a page , get read diffrent by people.

I was just stating my point , people are nuts to ask big $$$ for rust.

jbrewer 12-29-2012 09:59 AM

Yeah, no worries! It's all good. I know I have overpaid for some of mine (particularly the first one!) but I still get a lot of enjoyment from them and it's not the end of the world either way. Location plays a HUGE amount in the cost and availability too.

I've gotten a couple really good deals too, so I suspect it all evens out :-)

HNY to all!
John

Methos 12-29-2012 10:05 AM

Doug I sent you a email.:beerchug:

jbrewer 12-29-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by methos (Post 166732)
....check the gears in the tranny for any broken gears. Btdt


oh yeah!!! :-)

4SPEED 12-29-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 166850)
Doug I sent you a email.:beerchug:

Ok, I'll check it later. Im on my cell right now and dont have my email set up on here yet




thanks for the pics..

4SPEED 12-29-2012 04:39 PM

Pics/video tomorrow , going on a (0) road trip. be there by 3 home by 4:30ish I hope.

Shes going to look good in the bed of my Ford

ACecil 12-29-2012 10:05 PM

Looking forward to it, Doug!


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